Chat Logs for Episode 513 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 150 Posts:TheFu
With 120 Posts:Dooley_da_Vulcan
With 70 Posts:sparklyballs
With 39 Posts:Lyndon
With 36 Posts:bp9


Chat Logs:

6:58:01 PMTheFu I'm only interested in self-hosted solutions that are centralized.
6:58:21 PMbenrob0329 wait...what
6:58:22 PMTheFu Too many different clients. Want a single view.
6:58:28 PMsparklyballs i use textual on my mac with znc on a docker on one of RPI's
6:58:55 PMbenrob0329 weechat runs on my Rpi2, could have it running on the 1 though
6:58:58 PMgarywhite Did anyone hear about Doctor Who?
6:58:59 PMsparklyballs and palaver on my phone
6:59:05 PMbenrob0329 garywhite: yup
6:59:08 PMsparklyballs i did Garbee
6:59:15 PMsparklyballs i did garywhite even
6:59:30 PMTheFu benrob0329: sorry - that was one of the dumbest things I've written. Well, perhaps not. ;)
6:59:55 PMgarywhite It's showtime & no Robbie or anyone from Studio D
6:59:57 PMTheFu I'm on S9 of Dr. Who. Please don't spoil anything.
7:00:04 PMsparklyballs posted in here about 3 minutes after the announcement garywhite
7:00:13 PMSolbu Hi R2D2. :-)
7:00:14 PMbenrob0329 I think it could be interesting, but i dont like that the BBC lied about thier plans
7:00:32 PMsparklyballs they didn't lie, they kept it under wraps is all
7:00:39 PMbenrob0329 or that they have revealed the new doctor this early
7:00:43 PMbenrob0329 sparklyballs: no they didnt
7:00:44 PMTheFu SashaD2: a little delay?
7:00:54 PMsparklyballs they did the same with capaldi though
7:01:02 PMbenrob0329 "Oh no it'll be like the tennant era!"
7:01:05 PMTheFu Or is that S2A21D2?
7:01:11 PMSashaD2 Maybe a little... Hi everyone!!!
7:01:29 PMsparklyballs he was unveiled on a bbc special around this time of year
7:01:31 PMSashaD2 We are getting all ready to rock
7:01:37 PMbenrob0329 "Itll be
7:01:58 PMbenrob0329 they actually said it wouldnt be..this
7:02:03 PMbenrob0329 specifically
7:02:09 PMSolbu And the stream is running. :-)
7:02:29 PMsparklyballs where did they say that ?
7:02:35 PMbenrob0329 hmm, do i tune in...or watch the edited version and work on a project..
7:03:01 PMTheFu Put it up on the wall and keep working.
7:03:05 PMSashaD2 Tune in tune in!!
7:03:09 PMSolbu sparklyballs: I'm using kodi, and the stream started working.
7:03:20 PMTheFu Solbu: yep.
7:03:29 PMsparklyballs yeah i have the prescreen
7:03:44 PMSolbu sparklyballs: Me too, wo the stream is working.
7:03:44 PMbenrob0329
7:03:47 PMSolbu *so
7:04:20 PMsparklyballs a man in the complaints dept who was misinformed and clearly got it wrong does not equal the bbc
7:04:21 PMSolbu hi RobbieF. The kodi tester is Go for launch. :-)
7:04:28 PMRobbieF Thanks Solbu!
7:04:44 PMTheFu But some of the S1 content seems "off"
7:04:56 PMTheFu Episode numbers don't look correct.
7:05:06 PMTheFu For the clips.
7:05:28 PMsparklyballs and given that he wouldn't have been privy to that information anyways he had no business commenting about it , news making a non story
7:05:42 PMSolbu TheFu: The numbers are correct, it seems the seasoning is off, not the episode numbering.
7:06:02 PMsparklyballs too much pepper Solbu ?
7:06:17 PMTheFu Salt.
7:06:23 PMTheFu too much sal.
7:06:24 PMbenrob0329 ahhhhh
7:07:37 PMsparklyballs did SashaD2 sabotage Jeff's car ?
7:07:45 PMTheFu News with Japanese names and UK places, right?
7:08:07 PMSashaD2 even worse.... lol
7:08:16 PMgarywhite So salty. Maybe if I add a little salt...
7:09:04 PMSolbu Liftoff…
7:09:16 PMbenrob0329 anyone who wants some nice chill music http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lee_Rosevere/Hold_Music is a pretty nice album
7:09:56 PMTheFu Dropped.
7:10:00 PMDooley_da_Vulcan so it was not me.....?
7:10:03 PMABQTKY Woops!
7:10:05 PMM1k3_0 yup
7:10:07 PMsparklyballs feed died lol
7:10:08 PMSolbu Stream died.
7:10:27 PMTheFu SashaD2: Stream DROPPED!
7:10:28 PMABQTKY the backhoe driver did it
7:10:35 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Hate that it did, glad it was not me
7:10:50 PMTheFu Robbie is gone, but Sasha is still connected?
7:11:36 PMsparklyballs i have sound
7:11:40 PMSolbu Stream is back up.
7:12:15 PMsparklyballs oh here we go with the full audiovisual experience
7:12:20 PMDooley_da_Vulcan hey ABQTKY we had a concrete cutter cut through a set of 480V lines here at a motel 6 one year on Indy 500 weekend..... boy we were scrambling to get them temp power. The guy never even noticed he had cut anything.
7:12:24 PMbenrob0329` still down from web interface (for me at least)
7:12:34 PMbenrob0329` nvm
7:13:11 PMDooley_da_Vulcan benrob0329: and others.... just refresh the page and gove about 7 seconds
7:13:21 PMtechstudier stream is back
7:13:30 PMLyndon hello all
7:13:32 PMsparklyballs original die hard bad guy
7:13:43 PMTheFu Ah ... THAT guy.
7:14:14 PMDooley_da_Vulcan dire me it is
7:14:24 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Alans Sister?
7:14:31 PMLyndon sounds like a Yoda Saying
7:14:51 PMLyndon (Yoda Laugh)
7:15:15 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Sounds like RobbieF and his wife have just started a paper route.....
7:15:29 PMTheFu We don't have paperboys anymore here. I had one. 4am, daily.
7:16:19 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Hey RobbieF what app do you use for your counter?
7:16:24 PMTheFu Collections where the best! No better way to get tips than wearing an old, holy hat on those rounds.
7:16:28 PMLyndon us either cuz we live in the country
7:17:07 PMDooley_da_Vulcan she has to sync it by the sink?????
7:17:21 PMbenrob0329` ...i just use a normal toothbrush
7:17:23 PMTheFu Dooley_da_Vulcan: I had a broken foot and still had to do my route, daily.
7:17:37 PMTheFu My parents were clear - it was MY JOB, not theirs.
7:17:54 PMLyndon Yay! Kodi
7:18:15 PMDooley_da_Vulcan What was bad with mine the customer count never went up but my monthly bill did.... the managers were screwind us
7:18:20 PMbenrob0329` I still think that XPMC was a much cooler name
7:18:28 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I have Kodi on my phone
7:18:38 PMbenrob0329` X (cross) Platform Media Center
7:18:46 PMTheFu Kodi on Android too.
7:19:00 PMsparklyballs don't call kodi a set top box, whole big thing with them at the moment is dissacioation with pirating
7:19:01 PMLyndon kinda like steam..ish
7:19:07 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Kodi on my android phone and on a MiBox
7:19:22 PMTheFu Didn't record TV easily before, but ... with an HDHR4 or newer, it is easy.
7:19:41 PMbenrob0329` sparklyballs: but..but ma popcorn time free movies!
7:19:45 PMDooley_da_Vulcan need a kodi version for ROKU....... Hey NateUK can you write a version for the ROKU???
7:20:01 PMLyndon What is a MiBox Dooley_da_Vulcan
7:20:28 PMTheFu Roku's interface isn't nearly as nice as Kodi's. IMHO. I have a Roku, but only use it for DRM content when I can't get kodi working.
7:20:32 PMbenrob0329` XBMC
7:20:55 PMDooley_da_Vulcan X Box Media Center
7:21:17 PMsparklyballs stretch version of kodi is 17.1 , latest stable of kodi is 17.3
7:21:19 PMbenrob0329` and now its Kodi...which stands for, well Kodi
7:21:22 PMTheFu 2.5 yrs isn't a long time for old people.
7:21:30 PMLyndon oh. cool
7:21:47 PMLyndon nope its not =)
7:22:03 PMTheFu On a r-pi, there are distros like OSMC - just dd the image onto an SD card. BAM, done.
7:22:22 PMsparklyballs libreelec is great for the pi too
7:22:33 PMbenrob0329` TheFu: OSMC is like a strange fork/non-fork of Kodi
7:22:42 PMTheFu Not really.
7:22:46 PMsparklyballs it's a jeos for kodi
7:23:00 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Throw on a nice Ares addon
7:23:00 PMTheFu Hey - it supports NFS FTW!
7:23:19 PMTheFu OSMC first run looks just like that.
7:23:26 PMsparklyballs yeah kodi works with nfs
7:23:39 PMsparklyballs i don't like nfs though, nothing but trouble
7:23:40 PMTheFu On a r-pi v2 or v3, Confluence skin works nicely.
7:23:44 PMM1k3_0 That just happened to me. I was able to alt tab out
7:23:46 PMTheFu NFS rocks!
7:23:55 PMTheFu CIFS is the problem.
7:24:16 PMSolbu The Magic SysKey sequence. :-)
7:24:27 PMbenrob0329` Shift Print O
7:24:35 PMDooley_da_Vulcan yes the LAST line of access, and if that does not work, the power button is the only way
7:24:50 PMbenrob0329` or was it Shift Ctrl Print O
7:25:06 PMbp9 Heh, there's no lag tonight. @RobbieF disconnected almost as soon as he powered off. :-)
7:25:07 PMsparklyballs magical dissappearing media with NFS
7:25:26 PMTheFu Huh? with a read-only mount?
7:25:37 PMsparklyballs stale handles
7:25:55 PMTheFu I've never had that issue, but I have seen CEOs and marketing people loose files on the network all the time.
7:26:15 PMDooley_da_Vulcan SashaD2: if you pay something online and get a online proof of payment you do a screenshot and BAM
7:26:23 PMTheFu If you use NFS over wifi with bad connections, what do you expect?
7:26:53 PMsparklyballs this was over a gigabit wired ethernet network thank you, lol
7:27:05 PMTheFu There are some nice Canadian-specific addons to get access to the free web content in CA.
7:27:05 PMSashaD2 That makes sense!!!!
7:27:09 PMsparklyballs got fed up with it and ditched that sucker
7:27:21 PMTheFu CBC.ca for example.
7:27:22 PMSashaD2 I will use that feature for sure
7:27:34 PMDooley_da_Vulcan No the addons work pretty well and you can get in touch with makers pretty well and quick
7:27:48 PMsparklyballs kodi with a mouse just seems so wrong
7:27:56 PMTheFu sparklyballs: AMEN!
7:28:01 PMSolbu The available addons in the default kodi installation is all legal. It's when one add external kodi repositories one have to be carefull.
7:28:06 PMTheFu $15 remote FTW!
7:28:29 PMbenrob0329` omw the multi-term package for emacs is soo much better than the default term package
7:28:32 PMTheFu Appears my stream is about 20 sec behind.
7:28:57 PMsparklyballs yeah the kodi stream is not quite live
7:29:08 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Yes even if you us a legal legit addon and still access content that you do not own and is not offered with no copyright claim. sooooo
7:29:29 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Not saying that I would ever do that
7:30:19 PMTheFu Plex Rocks if you need to transcode in real-time some content.
7:30:20 PMDooley_da_Vulcan sparklyballs: you can get live streams on kodi.... not legally usally unless you are watching a legal free stream of PLUTL channel
7:30:29 PMDooley_da_Vulcan PLUTO
7:30:30 PMTheFu There's a Kodi addon - PlexBMC.
7:30:51 PMsparklyballs plexbmc is an abomination
7:30:56 PMTheFu There is lots and lots of legal, free, content in the USA.
7:31:02 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Kodi KRYPTON 17.3 ? is current
7:31:13 PMsparklyballs i don't want live stream Dooley_da_Vulcan
7:31:42 PMTheFu sparklyballs: plexbmc is just temperamental since the plex guys spawned that plex cr@p.
7:32:14 PMTheFu That is an ugly interface.
7:32:23 PMbenrob0329` this is the new default theme AFAIK
7:32:26 PMTheFu Confluence or Neon FTW!
7:32:27 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Pluto is actually pretty good. when they had that apartment fire in london, that was the only place I found it reporting
7:32:51 PMTheFu Huh?
7:33:02 PMsparklyballs to install the cat5 addon you need to go to addons ssetitng page you were on and allow untrusted soures
7:33:04 PMTheFu I don't use that interface.
7:33:09 PMgarywhite What the heck is Pluto?
7:33:10 PMDooley_da_Vulcan ROBBIE you have to go to file stttings and add a source
7:33:23 PMDooley_da_Vulcan then you install from a source
7:33:30 PMTheFu Dooley_da_Vulcan: He has a ZIP.
7:33:36 PMSolbu Dooley_da_Vulcan: That is actually not correct.
7:33:47 PMSolbu You don't NEED to add a source.
7:34:09 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Even if it is your own HD it is still a source
7:34:22 PMsparklyballs the gear wheel that says standard, change to expert to get the full range of settings
7:34:36 PMDooley_da_Vulcan According to the interface you are using you may have to add a source
7:34:49 PMDooley_da_Vulcan or I did on one of the addons I used
7:34:51 PMTheFu Love the live.
7:35:22 PMTheFu Solbu: Wow - talk about delay.
7:35:23 PMLyndon I use a Wireless Keyboard with touch pad which works great with steam and would work great with Kodi
7:35:28 PMsparklyballs kodi and mouse does not play well
7:35:34 PMTheFu NO!
7:35:35 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Robbie You would have a much better experience if you change your interface to CONFLUENCE or AMBER
7:35:38 PMTheFu Not the same.
7:35:40 PMLyndon I don't like Remotes
7:35:46 PMsparklyballs click into the cat5 app and you get the menu
7:35:51 PMSolbu I use the old theme/skin, which is confluence.
7:36:01 PMDooley_da_Vulcan TheFu which interface do you use?
7:36:06 PMbenrob0329` gonna emerge is and see myself in a sec
7:36:12 PMbenrob0329` *iy
7:36:14 PMbenrob0329` *it
7:36:19 PMTheFu I use a different interface - Confluence.
7:36:22 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I have seen that interface it is the standard on the new KODI Version
7:36:33 PMDooley_da_Vulcan krypton 17.3 is that interface
7:36:39 PMsparklyballs you're somehow right clicking and getting the context menu
7:36:54 PMsparklyballs krypton switched to estuary (the new skin) by default
7:36:57 PMTheFu I'm running 17.2/.3 ...
7:37:11 PMTheFu Right click on the icon?
7:37:22 PMgarywhite Dooley_da_Vulcan: What is Pluto?
7:37:38 PMsparklyballs right click will give the context menu, which is what he is getting by mistake
7:37:50 PMLyndon off to the news then eh?
7:37:52 PMTheFu For local content, there is a specific directory structure and media split - Movies / TV / Photos / Music
7:38:17 PMTheFu Dropped?
7:38:19 PMABQTKY Uh, oh.
7:38:20 PMsparklyballs stream died again
7:38:23 PMM1k3_0 again yes
7:38:25 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Confluence is what was the default interface, now it is another, the one you are seeing
7:38:38 PMbp9 Yup, stream dropped here too
7:38:39 PMsparklyballs estuary is the new interface
7:38:47 PMbenrob0329` bah, why is this sync taking so long
7:38:52 PMLyndon just bang on it , It'll work
7:38:58 PMTheFu Dooley_da_Vulcan: Yep. The new one was slower on my pi-v2, so after 2 days, I switched back.
7:38:59 PMDooley_da_Vulcan garywhite: it is a free channel you can get on android or roku
7:39:18 PMDooley_da_Vulcan TheFu: Yes, I actually like Amber
7:39:20 PMsparklyballs i use mimic skin on my kodi
7:39:28 PMDooley_da_Vulcan did it go again?????
7:39:32 PMbenrob0329` Lyndon: now i have a hole in my screen
7:39:41 PMLyndon oh nooo
7:39:45 PMLyndon ;)
7:39:48 PMTheFu Tried Neon for a few months, but some other addons broke, so switched back to ...
7:39:51 PMtechstudier still no stream
7:39:59 PMSolbu Stream is back.
7:40:08 PMDooley_da_Vulcan garywhite: it is actually like a small cable service lots of different channels
7:40:18 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I like it
7:40:25 PMTheFu Roku?
7:40:38 PMTheFu There are 1,000s of Roku channels.
7:40:43 PMtechstudier nice car
7:41:00 PMTheFu Full-sized car?
7:41:05 PMTheFu Or is that 1 inch long?
7:41:07 PMbenrob0329` streams back
7:41:53 PMLyndon looks like a hot wheels car
7:42:24 PMbenrob0329` wheels would be hot if it skid a lot :P
7:42:40 PMTheFu If there isn't a human, no body will watch. The possibility of harm is a major NASCAR draw.
7:42:58 PMTheFu Only turning left?
7:43:01 PMsparklyballs nascar is so dull
7:43:14 PMDooley_da_Vulcan ESTUARY is the default skin for the current version of kodi
7:43:25 PMTheFu On her bicycle.
7:44:12 PMTheFu Sasha seems to be from a town without bumper traffic?
7:44:14 PMLyndon or just have autonomous FLYING Cars!
7:44:39 PMsparklyballs ambulance that can dodge traffic, like a helicopter you mean, lol.
7:44:54 PMLyndon yup!
7:45:35 PMLyndon Helicopters are basically flying cars
7:45:37 PMTheFu But can't cost over $100K or need maintenance after 40 hours of flight.
7:45:39 PMbenrob0329` Flying cars FTW
7:46:05 PMbenrob0329` flying hovercrafts even
7:46:13 PMLyndon yeah
7:46:35 PMLyndon LOL!
7:46:38 PMTheFu benrob0329`: hovercrafts are sorta limited to ground effect lift.
7:46:47 PMsparklyballs r2d2 drowned
7:47:03 PMtechstudier steps beat ed 209
7:47:06 PMbenrob0329` TheFu: not if you slap some wings on 'em
7:47:10 PMLyndon Thats exactly what I thought
7:47:16 PMSolbu Hmm. So if one print it at home, would one have a pirate heart ? :-)
7:47:22 PMbenrob0329` people have done it, so its possible
7:47:51 PMTheFu cars have flown too - once.
7:48:09 PMTheFu Just watch any Smoky and the Bandit movie.
7:48:14 PMsparklyballs hotwheels fly well
7:48:23 PMLyndon or Blues Bros
7:48:38 PMLyndon Flying Cop cars
7:48:43 PMTheFu Or Fall Guy.
7:48:56 PMbenrob0329` TheFu: ok maybe not, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwC8MP6uOiQ
7:49:04 PMsparklyballs that's one less granny who isn't put of work by a lasagne robot
7:49:32 PMbenrob0329` Glass: its just a fragile as before
7:50:00 PMbenrob0329` it's also not augmented....its a heads up display..
7:50:07 PMsparklyballs GED isn't that like some lesser education thing in the states ?
7:50:17 PMLyndon They need to make them 3d
7:50:40 PMTheFu benrob0329`: that craft wouldn't pass FAA certs.
7:50:49 PMTheFu Death trap comes to mind.
7:51:14 PMbenrob0329` TheFu: well, nor would shugar nowadays ;-)
7:51:23 PMbenrob0329` wait, FCC
7:51:32 PMbenrob0329` wait
7:51:33 PMbenrob0329` no
7:51:34 PMbenrob0329` ugg
7:52:43 PMTheFu Just look up "Kite Tubing" on youtube. Those were popular 'round here. Until people started dying.
7:52:48 PMTheFu Now illegal.
7:53:32 PMTheFu The Wright Bros kept all their test flights low for a reason. They'd seen others going higher dying.
7:53:52 PMLyndon .04
7:54:15 PMDooley_da_Vulcan RobbieF
7:54:15 PMDooley_da_Vulcan or X out
7:54:45 PMTheFu 16.10 is EoL. Only even years in April are LTS.
7:54:52 PMLyndon or get Mint 18
7:54:55 PMTheFu All others are 9 months.
7:55:42 PMTheFu from the release date.
7:56:59 PMTheFu Free wifi - ... from my neighbors.
7:57:35 PMTheFu a@a.com
7:57:48 PMRobbieF What? I'm online? :)
7:57:50 PMRobbieF what a night
7:57:51 PMRobbieF lol
7:57:53 PMRobbieF what the?!
7:58:48 PMsparklyballs yeppers
7:59:01 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I am on my PC, did NATE UK do it for you again?
7:59:02 PMTheFu YEAH!
7:59:13 PMsparklyballs channel dropped twice
7:59:25 PMLyndon wow! i can hardly edit 1 video for my channel per week
7:59:29 PMsparklyballs i haven't pulled newest version today though.
7:59:31 PMTheFu sparklyballs: That wasn't part of the code changes.
8:00:03 PMTheFu Gully-washer?
8:00:07 PMsparklyballs might set a watch on the cat5 git page for updates
8:00:08 PMSolbu RobbieF: I suspect the kodi addon problem is listed in ~/.kodi/temp/kodi.log or ~/.kodi/temp/kodi.log.old
8:00:39 PMTheFu Did the roku channel drop at all tonight?
8:00:56 PMDooley_da_Vulcan What @RobbieF is what you should expect
8:01:08 PMLyndon us is made with cotton
8:01:08 PMDooley_da_Vulcan What he got is what you should
8:01:10 PMsparklyballs on the debian machine live i think using the keyboard rather than the mouse to select the app would have brought up the menu
8:01:14 PMDooley_da_Vulcan it is what he should have gotten/
8:01:21 PMLyndon as least in part
8:01:30 PMbp9 @TheFu: yes, I saw one drop on roku
8:01:42 PMsparklyballs we have new plastic notes on 5 and 10 pound notes
8:01:50 PMDooley_da_Vulcan to make the changes to what he expected I believe it should be made to what he wants with....RobbieF
8:01:50 PMDooley_da_Vulcan to upper left and lower right corners and use arrows to fit screen onto monitor.
8:02:03 PMbp9 @RobbieF: Question: does Kodi allow recording of content?
8:02:10 PMTheFu Money should be green - clearly an American here.
8:02:15 PMsparklyballs kodi doesn't record
8:02:25 PMTheFu bp9: Depends. What do you mean "recording?"
8:02:35 PMTheFu It can. Mine does.
8:02:46 PMbp9 @TheFu: as in a DVR.
8:02:53 PMTheFu I use an external network tuner.
8:03:16 PMsparklyballs kodi doesn't do the recording though
8:03:34 PMbp9 I use handbrake and or plex to rip DVDs that I already own. I wonder about recording streaming content such as Cat5.tv
8:03:41 PMLyndon Could use OBS.
8:03:45 PMTheFu The addon, in kodi, does.
8:03:45 PMsparklyballs i use tvheadend on my server for tv and kodi as the frontend
8:03:55 PMbp9 I suppose I could download the episodes and store them on my fileserver.
8:04:12 PMTheFu bp9: Some content can be "downloaded".
8:04:30 PMbp9 got it, thanks!
8:04:32 PMTheFu That is much more efficient.
8:05:21 PMbp9 LOL they are just cutting up tonight. :-)
8:06:09 PMTheFu If yhou want to record streamed content ... amazon sells a few devices. AGPtek makes a few. They don't record HDCP protected content, however. But for normal stuff coming from a display device over HDMI to a monitor/display, those devices can record it.
8:07:02 PMDooley_da_Vulcan sparklyballs: Silicon dust makes a tuner you can hook up to you router and it will connect to PLEX and allow you to record from live tv. and add it to your library. That is if you want add tv or movies from tv to your library. and will allow watching live tv from OTA sources to any device on the network. only 2 tuners though.
8:07:04 PMbp9 @TheFu:Thank you
8:07:14 PMTheFu Dropped again?
8:07:15 PMbp9 oy, the stream dropped again
8:07:16 PMM1k3_0 oops
8:07:17 PMtechstudier stream has dropped
8:07:23 PMTheFu Even on Roku?
8:07:27 PMbp9 Yep
8:07:30 PMsparklyballs hdhomerun
8:07:39 PMDooley_da_Vulcan You have to run your OTA antenna to it
8:07:45 PMTheFu sparklyballs: Yep. HDHR4 - which works with DLNA.
8:07:46 PMSolbu I suspect it's their internet connection, as they drop out of the chat at the same time as the stream dies.
8:08:15 PMTheFu sparklyballs: get 70-ish channels here from the antennas in the attic.
8:08:16 PMLyndon hmmm...
8:08:18 PMsparklyballs i have tvheadend on one of my servers in a docker container with my tv card on that machne to handle my recording and live viewing
8:08:24 PMbp9 Agreed. I can keep trying to reconnect but it won't work until I see Sasha and Robbie reconnect to the chat room.
8:08:36 PMTheFu sparklyballs: tvheadend is a PITA
8:08:41 PMDooley_da_Vulcan so it was not me running kodi on one monitor on top of the video feed from Cat5 and chatting on another monitor....
8:08:51 PMsparklyballs works though
8:08:52 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Look who has joined us
8:09:12 PMSashaD2 :) it's been a touchy internet sort of day
8:09:24 PMtechstudier stream is back
8:09:31 PMTheFu SashaD2: may use the neighbor's wifi next time?
8:09:52 PMsparklyballs i'd use mythtv if they ever sorted out the terrible slow channel changing
8:09:54 PMbp9 @sparklyballs My OTA situation is not wonderful. Need to put an antenna in the air or in the attic to see if it improves.
8:09:55 PMTheFu Some AL foil and pringles can needed?
8:09:57 PMLyndon ;)
8:10:00 PMSashaD2 that's a great idea
8:10:39 PMTheFu SashaD2: You look guilty.
8:11:24 PMLyndon Facebook Vids
8:11:33 PMLyndon suck me in everytime
8:11:35 PMsparklyballs damn those cats
8:12:43 PMLyndon yes!
8:12:44 PMbp9 @SashaD2 There are such things as headphones.... LOL
8:13:01 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Seems Like a short show
8:13:03 PMsparklyballs i ditched social media last year
8:13:05 PMtechstudier great show
8:13:13 PMLyndon Thanks Guys
8:13:17 PMGuest_9342 Goodnight all. Great show.
8:13:21 PMsparklyballs RobbieF try using the keyboard instead of the mouse
8:13:24 PMTheFu bp9: See how this is highlighted for you? If you enter it for other users in the same way ...
8:13:25 PMbp9 :-)
8:13:25 PMsparklyballs in kodi that is
8:13:34 PMGuest_9342 Have a great week.
8:13:58 PMsparklyballs less skittish and enter will start an app
8:14:03 PMTheFu Did I miss the ep where the Enterprise was flown?
8:14:48 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Have a good night.
8:14:55 PMRobbieF Thanks all!
8:15:07 PMbp9 TheFu I don't see any special highlighting. I just tried the @ syntax to see if it would work. :-)
8:15:09 PMDooley_da_Vulcan anyone else gonna stick around and wanting to chat?
8:15:32 PMTheFu bp9: Guess it is client specific. Mine works that way.
8:15:52 PMTheFu Dooley_da_Vulcan: some of us are here all the time.
8:15:55 PMbp9 on linux
8:15:55 PMDooley_da_Vulcan the gear icon
8:16:19 PMDooley_da_Vulcan get more
8:16:31 PMTheFu GET MORE!!!!
8:16:46 PMDooley_da_Vulcan alt tab?
8:16:49 PMsparklyballs use the keyboard
8:17:00 PMTheFu Stop using the mouse!
8:17:00 PMsparklyballs mouse in kodi is horrible
8:17:15 PMsparklyballs RobbieF use the keyboard, not the mouse
8:17:33 PMTheFu kodi.log
8:17:56 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I mean to get it to what you are used to seein gin kodi.
8:18:01 PMbp9 It's suspicious that Kodi is running when it locks up
8:18:01 PMsparklyballs launch it window'ed
8:18:59 PMDooley_da_Vulcan you seem to have a linux issue?
8:19:01 PMTheFu R U using multiple video-heavy apps on that machine?
8:19:09 PMLyndon i love Live Cat5
8:19:16 PMTheFu Kodi wants complete control over the GPU, IME.
8:19:35 PMbp9 No I'm not having a linux issue but I bet RobbieF is. :-)
8:19:36 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I bet RobbieF is always running video heavy apps
8:19:36 PMalpeck wait till someone makes an ice cube using the garlic tray
8:19:51 PMTheFu Cantaloupe can be cut into blocks too.
8:20:03 PMtechstudier good show as always
8:20:34 PMLyndon see y'all
8:20:56 PMDooley_da_Vulcan that last image makes for a great screenshot
8:21:01 PMbp9 I guess that's the end of the live show. I don't get to see it love often. Fun.
8:21:09 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Sasha looks to be dancing
8:22:01 PMbp9 VK7HSE, VK3JCL. How do you do?
8:24:02 PMDooley_da_Vulcan so anyone here wanting to chat still
8:24:16 PMTheFu subject?
8:24:20 PMbenrob0329 im still here, trying to think of ideas for a moving background
8:24:48 PMbp9 I'm just hanging out for a few minutes
8:24:50 PMTheFu benrob0329: foreign language words you want to learn?
8:24:55 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I am wanting to watch a you tube channel collection of videos to write games in python, a free mini course
8:25:21 PMDooley_da_Vulcan benrob0329: a moving background?
8:25:35 PMTheFu Dooley_da_Vulcan: google has a free python course. EdX does too. MIT Intro to CS uses Python too.
8:26:12 PMTheFu Writing games is non-trivial in python for a beginner.
8:26:13 PMDooley_da_Vulcan yes, this one guy has a se of videos to go from pong to a Super Mario Bros clone
8:26:16 PMbenrob0329 Dooley_da_Vulcan: like, to make a bit of static imagery look more interesting
8:26:54 PMbenrob0329 imagine a gradiant, with some stars popping in and out of existence every so often...thats what i have now
8:27:23 PMDooley_da_Vulcan @benrob0329: could one of those that look to be moving that arent
8:27:46 PMbenrob0329 like, an optical illusion?
8:28:18 PMDooley_da_Vulcan going back and forth from chatting on phone to chat room, boy autocomplete is nice on phone...lol
8:32:02 PMDooley_da_Vulcan here is where I am getting ready to start. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwRXb5dUK4cvsHbx-rGzSgw
8:32:19 PMDooley_da_Vulcan and I think having dual monitors will make it a much easier process
8:33:41 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I figure going through all the games he shows how to write will be a good start for python
8:35:32 PMbp9 I like the lower level languages: C, assembly, java.
8:36:07 PMbp9 although I wouldn't call java "low-level" LOL
8:39:18 PMbenrob0329 i wouldnt call it good either :PP
8:40:32 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Python is asked for a bit in the industry isnt it?
8:40:40 PMbp9 It's a tool, like anything else. Use it when it's the best tool for the job.
8:41:11 PMDooley_da_Vulcan but are not a lot of employers asking that you know how to use that particular tool even somewhat?
8:41:11 PMTheFu Dooley_da_Vulcan: depends on which industry.
8:41:14 PMbp9 Dooley, in my experience, Java seems to be more popular in professional jobs.
8:41:38 PMTheFu Python is extremely popular to learn. That means lots and lots of competition for those positions.
8:41:41 PMDooley_da_Vulcan what about......
8:41:45 PMDooley_da_Vulcan let me see.....
8:42:13 PMbp9 I don;t see a lot of Python in most companies, but I see a *lot* of java
8:42:35 PMTheFu I'm coming up on 30 yrs professional programming ...
8:42:48 PMTheFu I'd work backwards from where you want to be in 15, 10, 5, years.
8:43:04 PMTheFu Not just job, but lifestyle too.
8:43:35 PMDooley_da_Vulcan there was a video I watched, showing something new
8:43:48 PMTheFu Java is popular in corporate environments. But so are lots of other languages.
8:44:11 PMTheFu Dooley_da_Vulcan: What other languages do you already know?
8:44:22 PMbp9 @TheFu: Good advice. I just knew I wanted to program computers from when I was young and it's worked out well for me so far.
8:44:46 PMDooley_da_Vulcan CSS ???
8:44:49 PMDooley_da_Vulcan what is that
8:45:00 PMbp9 Cascading Style Sheets
8:45:14 PMTheFu It isn't programming. It is layout.
8:45:14 PMbp9 Used in web pages
8:45:36 PMDooley_da_Vulcan this is coding
8:45:44 PMDooley_da_Vulcan hang on let me see what he calls it
8:45:45 PMTheFu CSS has been around 15+ yrs.
8:46:11 PMTheFu Webapp development is different from thick client or server development.
8:46:36 PMTheFu True, they are related, but there are different skills needed to secure each.
8:46:43 PMDooley_da_Vulcan yeah, dammig, wrong video... sucks when you fall asleep watching videos..... long history
8:46:56 PMbp9 You can specialize in any of those areas and do well.
8:47:08 PMTheFu Learning to program isn't a video-watching thing.
8:47:23 PMTheFu It is time actually typing in code.
8:47:23 PMDooley_da_Vulcan what it was I think was WEBASSEMBLY
8:47:24 PMDooley_da_Vulcan ?
8:47:54 PMbp9 I find the fastest way to learn is to identify a problem and design and build a solution...
8:48:01 PMbp9 ...many times if needed.
8:48:12 PMTheFu Sounds like a new buzzword for something we've been doing for 20 yrs.
8:48:29 PMDooley_da_Vulcan huh
8:48:35 PMbp9 Dooley, are you thinking of webapp?
8:48:37 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I got lost
8:49:18 PMDooley_da_Vulcan yes, when I was writing Mastermind in quickbasic 4.5 and using an addon so I could get a mouse interaction
8:49:27 PMTheFu webassembly - I've heard the term. Don't know if it is marketing cr@p or what.
8:49:38 PMDooley_da_Vulcan ASM.JS
8:49:49 PMbp9 Ah, javascript
8:49:52 PMTheFu Meh. JS should be avoided.
8:49:59 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I guess assembly javascript?
8:50:02 PMTheFu IMHO. Use the least amount possible.
8:50:09 PMbenrob0329 My current programming interest is Common Lisp
8:50:18 PMTheFu Inside a browser, it is extremely buggy.
8:50:36 PMTheFu Only php would have more inherent bugs.
8:50:51 PMbenrob0329 Its like Haskell, but with side effects and extendability
8:50:56 PMTheFu Of course, Garbee would loudly disagree with me.
8:51:37 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I have another set that is like watching an instructor go through something only to ask a question is to go to google
8:52:01 PMTheFu If you want to program games ...
8:52:08 PMDooley_da_Vulcan right, but being given information in a video that you can rewind or replay is nice
8:52:37 PMDooley_da_Vulcan damn, this, it was not scrolling to the active comments
8:52:41 PMDooley_da_Vulcan arggg
8:52:47 PMTheFu Being able to ask questions at the time you have them and get answers is also useful. Plus hearing the 20 other questions that other people ask is EXTREMELY helpful.
8:53:28 PMDooley_da_Vulcan that is what I told my wife, my question only has so much value, the other 20 that I did not think of is even more important
8:53:40 PMTheFu If you want to be a Monk, you need to go to the monastery.
8:54:36 PMDooley_da_Vulcan MONK?
8:54:51 PMTheFu programmer.
8:54:54 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I look funny in a robe, I am short as hell
8:55:11 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I am sorry, I do not get the connection
8:55:21 PMDooley_da_Vulcan something I have not heard I guess
8:55:30 PMTheFu You don't become a monk watching videos.
8:56:47 PMDooley_da_Vulcan well they are watching other kinds of videos....
8:57:23 PMDooley_da_Vulcan what program do you all recommend for ripping my dvds to mp4 for the best size to quality average
8:57:43 PMTheFu I worked in a monastery for a few weeks in Nepal. Yes, the monks do watch videos, but not to learn to be a monk.
8:58:02 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I watch a lot of Lawrence Krauss and Christopher Hitchens
8:58:28 PMbenrob0329 Dooley_da_Vulcan: Handbreak
8:58:40 PMDooley_da_Vulcan no they watch videos that one would think would help their golf game.... but it does not
8:58:42 PMTheFu vobcopy --
8:58:59 PMDooley_da_Vulcan what I have an issue with is it only does about half
8:59:30 PMDooley_da_Vulcan and I added the decryption file to my sys
8:59:48 PMTheFu which is why vobcopy is needed.
9:00:16 PMTheFu That gets 90% ... for the remaining 10%, derescue, then vobcopy, then handbrake.
9:01:06 PMTheFu There is a paid MKV-Make or MakeMKV tool, but it doesn't get captions, just subs.
9:02:36 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I read online that handbrake has that issue with encrypted dvds that you need to use libdvdcss
9:02:44 PMDooley_da_Vulcan and I installed it
9:03:39 PMgarywhite What the heck is this PLUTO that I heard about earlier?
9:05:09 PMTheFu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0k9Uvt2os - jump to the last 15 sec.
9:05:48 PMTheFu Dooley_da_Vulcan: which is why I use vobcopy FIRST
9:06:12 PMDooley_da_Vulcan its an app that has a lot of channels to watch
9:06:17 PMDooley_da_Vulcan live
9:06:35 PMDooley_da_Vulcan has what appears to be a 24h WPT channel
9:08:10 PMDooley_da_Vulcan and is it very time consuming? of difficult?
9:12:12 PMgarywhite 1. WPT? 2. Link?
9:12:34 PMDooley_da_Vulcan world poker tour
9:12:44 PMgarywhite O...K...
9:13:32 PMDooley_da_Vulcan http://pluto.tv/watch
9:15:23 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I have the app on all my devices
9:15:44 PMDooley_da_Vulcan http://corporate.pluto.tv/
9:16:47 PMDooley_da_Vulcan the channel called EYE CANDY......!!!!!
9:17:01 PMDooley_da_Vulcan http://pluto.tv/watch/eye-candy
9:20:07 PMgarywhite They must be reputable, they have NBC backing them
9:20:53 PMDooley_da_Vulcan yeah, they have commercials but they are free
9:21:15 PMDooley_da_Vulcan you want news from london and your in the US, you got it
9:22:12 PMDooley_da_Vulcan skynews, and cbsn are 2
9:23:45 PMDooley_da_Vulcan if you want to have free tv wash over you at no cost here you go

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Dooley_da_Vulcan
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Lyndon
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RobbieF
SashaD2
Solbu
TheFu
alpeck
benrob0329
benrob0329`
bp9
garywhite
sparklyballs
techstudier