Chat Logs for Episode 517 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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With 68 Posts:TheFu
With 46 Posts:agamotto
With 36 Posts:techstudier
With 24 Posts:sparklyballs
With 17 Posts:bp9


Chat Logs:

6:58:46 PMdooley_da_Vulcan how do you add to kodi?
6:59:57 PMtechstudier videos addons
7:00:27 PMdooley_da_Vulcan and the name of the addon?
7:00:32 PMtechstudier load from zip file
7:00:49 PMdooley_da_Vulcan what depository?
7:00:53 PMtechstudier google cat5 addon
7:01:02 PMsparklyballs https://github.com/Cat5TV/plugin.video.category5
7:01:03 PMtechstudier found a github
7:01:19 PMSolbu Audio!
7:01:19 PMtechstudier found at github
7:01:24 PMSolbu No image yet.
7:01:33 PMtechstudier audio and picture all good
7:02:14 PMsparklyballs and the feed kaput lol
7:02:17 PMTheFu And ... gone.
7:02:20 PMSolbu Hehe.
7:02:31 PMTheFu just after saying "wonderful"
7:02:34 PMSolbu «How, wonderfull» … and dead.
7:02:40 PMABQTKY Woops. Lost it. But the show hasn't actually started yet. So...
7:02:52 PMtechstudier it was all good for a while
7:02:59 PMsparklyballs perhaps all part of the master plan TheFu
7:03:16 PMsparklyballs lull you in to thinking it's working then kill the feed
7:03:37 PMSashaD2 We are back, and ready to rock
7:04:15 PMtechstudier have sound no picture
7:04:32 PMSolbu Kodi stream have no picture.
7:04:48 PMagamotto Hallo, all
7:04:48 PMsparklyballs working here Solbu
7:04:52 PMTheFu kodi working here. Just had to leave and restart the "live"
7:04:58 PMsparklyballs hallo agamotto
7:05:22 PMSolbu TheFu: Restarting stream worked.
7:06:04 PMtechstudier same here restart worked
7:06:11 PMTheFu Any one got a PC part picker URL for Sasha's build?
7:07:35 PMsparklyballs is that a wrist splint SashaD2 on your left wrist ?
7:08:04 PMSashaD2 nope, a lace sleeve
7:08:09 PMTheFu SashaD2: Yeah - what is that on the wrist?
7:08:29 PMagamotto Funny, I was just watching a show about the Story of China featuring a Xu family that traces back to circa 900AD... and they have the many-times reprinted books to prove it.
7:09:53 PMTheFu Free shipping!
7:09:54 PMagamotto Nice commision
7:10:29 PMTheFu And you don't have to lug the box to your car or get it out of the trunk. ;)
7:10:38 PMtechstudier the wonders of the gimble
7:10:50 PMsparklyballs fascinating history china has agamotto , for 18 centuries out of the last 20 1/3 of the world economy was china
7:11:55 PMagamotto I was blown away by the wall carving shown that can be read nearly 3000 years later by people speaking "modern" Mandarin.
7:12:30 PMtechstudier probably started at sea to hold instruments stable
7:13:34 PMTheFu $1B for 10 shows .... $100M ea?
7:13:54 PMagamotto Why not? For Apple, $1Bn is pocket-change, and if it doesn't work out, they get a tax write-off.
7:14:32 PMTheFu CBS ... er .... sucks.
7:14:45 PMagamotto RobbieF: See if the show survives the first three episodes, then get excited about watching it.
7:14:58 PMsparklyballs apple kind of predate netflix and amazon in the video game, appletv for instance. and roundabout way apple movie trailers is ancient in comparison to both the other services you mentioned
7:15:08 PMagamotto I have a feeling that Star Trek Continues will be more enjoyable :)
7:15:16 PMtechstudier the enterprise lives on
7:15:57 PMagamotto I refuse to pay AND have to watch commercials
7:16:15 PMTheFu Hulu shows commercials - even on their paid plan.
7:16:34 PMagamotto Which is why I dropped Hulu ~ 2 years ago
7:16:35 PMdooley_da_Vulcan its a scam, that is all
7:16:35 PMTheFu So ... just record it and run it through comskip.
7:17:11 PMdooley_da_Vulcan STARGATE ORIGINS
7:17:22 PMdooley_da_Vulcan anyone see about that
7:17:30 PMagamotto I don't mind ads, as long as they don't exceed ~1min each
7:17:53 PMSolbu dooley_da_Vulcan: To bad Stargate Universe closed after just two seasons. That was an awesome show.
7:17:56 PMagamotto dooley_da_Vulcan: Yes, cautiously optimistic
7:18:05 PMsparklyballs ads are the single most annoying thing on the internet apart from the small handed wonder in the white house
7:18:07 PMdooley_da_Vulcan I was wanting to add cat5 to my streaming box KODI
7:18:20 PMTheFu I'm addicted to _Dark Matter_ currently.
7:18:37 PMagamotto sparklyballs: I can do with ads, but not when I am expected to watch a 6min ad to view a 1:30 video
7:18:51 PMdooley_da_Vulcan which is not the easiest thing to do
7:18:53 PMTheFu Canadian SciFi
7:19:00 PMagamotto TheFu: Is that the anthology series?
7:19:01 PMTheFu Eh?
7:19:20 PMTheFu agamotto: Don't know.
7:19:45 PMagamotto TheFu: A different story each episode, but in similar setting...
7:19:51 PMtechstudier looking forward to the build list
7:20:07 PMagamotto Oi ocha is a tea...
7:20:10 PMTheFu Dark Matter is on SPACE or Syfy. It is a series ... order matters.
7:20:26 PMagamotto TheFu: Ahh. I will look for it.
7:20:26 PMsparklyballs i watched a great movie the other day prevenge
7:20:31 PMTheFu What's the budget for the build? Probable 10x my budget.
7:20:34 PMTheFu ;(
7:21:09 PMagamotto Ryzen threadripper with Titan?
7:21:13 PMTheFu Looks like my Ryzen 5 1600 is about $550 - so ... $150 over my budget.
7:21:14 PMdooley_da_Vulcan Damn
7:21:29 PMTheFu CA$2100!!!!!
7:22:00 PMTheFu I reuse parts.
7:22:15 PMagamotto In short, you are getting something from Falcon Northwest?
7:22:30 PMdooley_da_Vulcan System76
7:22:31 PMTheFu Backups?
7:22:57 PMTheFu Backups before RAID, IMHO
7:23:40 PMagamotto Fallout 4 in VR, w/o crashes and bugs = addiction
7:23:49 PMTheFu FVWM-crystal for the WM!
7:24:39 PMagamotto Tedious is the word
7:24:41 PMTheFu agamotto: They are going with Intel ... probably i7.
7:25:11 PMdooley_da_Vulcan good luck
7:25:24 PMTheFu SashaD2: Pretty much ... but you can force it and break things.
7:25:50 PMM1k3_0 If it does not fit PUSH HARDER
7:25:59 PMtechstudier compiz fusion makes things look nice on desktop
7:26:09 PMsparklyballs you can plug power supply into mini usb ports on a couple of my arm boards
7:26:28 PMTheFu You are putting this monster in the room you will be watching in? Too noisy?
7:27:07 PMdooley_da_Vulcan amd ryzen
7:27:19 PMTheFu How many bogomips do you want? SashaD2?
7:27:45 PMsparklyballs not the biggest bang electrically but the noisiest mistake i made was putting the preamp valves the wrong way round on one of my valve amps i used to have
7:27:54 PMTheFu I've run 20 VMs nicely on a 1st gen Core i5-750.
7:28:16 PMtechstudier a good power supply is good for a computer to have a long life
7:28:30 PMTheFu I would never put a real computer in the same room where I'm watching movies / TV.
7:28:42 PMSolbu RobbieF: Why not an i9, that came this year? If you're bulding a «powerhouse» anyway.
7:29:35 PMtechstudier 2nd gen i7 chips are cheap
7:30:03 PMtechstudier could be used as a media system
7:30:34 PMsparklyballs i turned the volume up so i can't hear the neighbours telling me to turn the tv down lol.....
7:30:34 PMagamotto $50 is an issue?
7:30:41 PMsparklyballs and the feed dead again
7:30:42 PMTheFu video dumped.
7:30:57 PMTheFu but they aren't here to see it.
7:31:02 PMM1k3_0 yup
7:31:03 PMABQTKY The stream heard Robbie mention carburetor when he meant radiator...and we're down!!
7:31:05 PMSolbu Luks dumped the feed.
7:31:25 PMtechstudier same here
7:31:46 PMsparklyballs looks like studio internet went kaput
7:31:48 PMagamotto Hmm, I added a Thermaltake liquid block cooler for ~$50 last year.
7:31:49 PMTheFu Anyone had any leaks with the liquid cooling or is that handled well.
7:31:55 PMbp9 I think the video feed will come back when they show up in the chat room again.
7:32:08 PMbp9 Just like that :-)
7:32:11 PMTheFu If they remember to look.
7:32:14 PMnapa_polarbear no roku
7:32:22 PMagamotto TheFu: The one I bought is sealed, according to the packaging.
7:32:26 PMtechstudier restarted steam its back
7:32:40 PMtechstudier stream is back
7:34:33 PMSashaD2 Thank you :)
7:35:21 PMtechstudier ssd drives are more reliable now good loading speeds
7:35:25 PMTheFu And don't get too hung up on those numbers - there's another graph there by perf per $$$
7:35:49 PMagamotto Is that price including the provincial VAT?
7:36:17 PMnapa_polarbear amd works better with linux
7:36:50 PMTheFu napa_polarbear: The ryzen CPUs are segfaulting under heavy thread loads.
7:37:08 PMtechstudier ryzen seven looks cheaper with good speeds
7:37:11 PMagamotto TheFu: Ooooo, not good
7:37:17 PMnapa_polarbear amd works better with linux
7:37:19 PMbp9 Any interest in APU? CPU + Graphics all on one chip?
7:37:45 PMTheFu bp9: APU is much, much, lower end than what Sasha is seeking.
7:38:11 PMbp9 no worries, just asking.
7:38:17 PMagamotto Ahh, so i7 w/o gfx sub-stuff
7:39:00 PMtechstudier the intel i5 offers good speeds and better price than i7
7:39:11 PMTheFu APU is a specific sort of CPU+GPU ... usually low end for a sub $500 total build. The Intels with iGPU aren't the same.
7:39:14 PMbp9 What is special about the K suffix?
7:39:24 PMagamotto bp9: unlocked
7:39:34 PMbp9 Still not sure what that means.
7:39:42 PMsparklyballs stay away from the minibar SashaD2
7:39:47 PMorangeman intel core 4770 cpu 3.44ghz
7:39:58 PMsparklyballs many nights of trouble after the minibar lol
7:40:04 PMDennis_Kelley hi everyone, sorry i just got home from work!
7:40:17 PMTheFu I always create a few different CPU builds - on paper using a spreadsheet to keep up with the slight differences.
7:40:30 PMtechstudier gone with the overclocking chip
7:40:42 PMDennis_Kelley Hello SashaD2 and Robbief
7:41:17 PMagamotto Dennis_Kelley: Hey, as long as you weren't mowing during a tornado...
7:41:21 PMtechstudier i7k overclock episode mybe
7:41:30 PMtechstudier maybe
7:43:10 PMTheFu Sasha shouldn't OC ... she won't have the patience to tweak all the voltages looking for "stability"
7:43:31 PMagamotto TheFu: Many mobos do that for you.
7:43:52 PMTheFu Not if you run Linux.
7:44:40 PMTheFu All the shipped OC utils are Windows-only.
7:44:59 PMagamotto Ahhh
7:45:01 PMsparklyballs kodi handles 3d
7:45:18 PMtechstudier on board graphics have advanced a lot
7:45:32 PMagamotto Isn't most 3d essentially 1080i?
7:45:38 PMtechstudier and on board sound
7:46:10 PMTheFu I only use iGPUs. Haven't bought a separate GPU since the $20 on a GT 430 about 10 yrs ago.
7:46:39 PMTheFu m2 is ok, but if you want 30,000Mbps throughput .. there are other options. Avoid SATA.
7:47:18 PMTheFu The fastest I've seen is 32Gpbs for storage.
7:47:24 PMBobK54 my son just built a new box with an M2 for the operating system. Stupic fast
7:47:25 PMtechstudier sound cards are not always needed these days unless music making etc which is good
7:47:28 PMTheFu I don't think M2 does that.
7:47:32 PMagamotto Isn't M.2 and PCIx expensive for SSD?
7:47:53 PMDennis_Kelley agamotto its better than mowing a tornado!
7:49:12 PMTheFu https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/vLnTwP/enthusiast-intel-gaming-build ....
7:49:21 PMsparklyballs mmmm fried retinas
7:49:31 PMTheFu Anyone else headed to see the eclipse on Monday?
7:49:39 PMagamotto sparklyballs: I will be watching on the roof of my local library
7:49:58 PMbp9 No, I should be able to see about 92% occlusion from my location.
7:50:01 PMsparklyballs bit 2 far for me in the uk agamotto
7:50:03 PMTheFu Only 90% eclipse here. Saw a total back in '89/'90.
7:50:03 PMBobK54 I'm 73 miles from the band of totality. not sure if I'll brave the traffic
7:50:16 PMtechstudier asteroid deflected by smart fridge
7:50:21 PMBobK54 I'll see 96.3% here
7:50:21 PMagamotto My last total one was 30 years ago
7:50:52 PMTheFu During total eclipse, it is safe to look at it ... for about 90 sec.
7:50:56 PMagamotto Go get a welding helmet! chuckle
7:51:08 PMsparklyballs last eclipse here i was working for an engineering company and used welding googles to watch it
7:51:29 PMagamotto Abundance of caution = deep fear of class-action lawsuit
7:51:35 PMTheFu We had setup a telescope.
7:51:43 PMBobK54 checked my amazon-sourced glasses today and found they were legit. so far so good.
7:51:59 PMagamotto The visible light is blocked, but the IR and UV are still in full
7:52:17 PMSolbu SashaD2: During the eclipse, DO NOT look directly at the sun. That is dangerous to your eyes.
7:52:41 PMtechstudier also shown in imax :)
7:52:46 PMGarbee[m] Oh. It started 50 minutes ago!
7:52:46 PMnapa_polarbear did we not have an eclipse back in 1979 in canada?
7:52:52 PMTheFu During total eclipse, it is safe to look at it ... for about 90 sec. But not safe before or after or if not in the total eclipse.
7:52:55 PMGarbee[m] I thought it was just before showtime. :(
7:53:34 PMagamotto How does it know the Use By dates?
7:53:37 PMnapa_polarbear did we not have an eclipse back in 1979 in canada?
7:54:48 PMagamotto Precisely why I don't have "smart" anything in my house
7:55:16 PMM1k3_0 Yes. I have one like this but not internet connected.
7:55:31 PMTheFu https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEhelp/safety2.html - The only time that the Sun can be viewed safely with the naked eye is during a total eclipse, when the Moon completely covers the disk of the Sun.
7:55:58 PMTheFu IoT is dangerous. Don't, just don't.
7:56:08 PMagamotto agreed
7:56:24 PMTheFu Security folks call it IoS ....
7:56:36 PMtechstudier the northern lights are amazing
7:56:36 PMtechstudier giant lump of clay heading for earth
7:56:38 PMSolbu What? The end is not near? ;-)
7:57:19 PMagamotto Ironic if it were to hit NK
7:57:29 PMTheFu https://internetofshit.net/
7:57:54 PMTheFu Dance like you think the world ends tomorrow. ;)
7:57:58 PMsparklyballs better to hit trump tower agamotto
7:57:58 PMagamotto Mandate of Heaven indeed
7:58:11 PMagamotto sparklyballs: I could settle
7:59:37 PMABQTKY Down again.
7:59:38 PMM1k3_0 again or just me?
7:59:41 PMtechstudier great news as always
7:59:43 PMagamotto deae
7:59:45 PMagamotto dead
7:59:49 PMbp9 Nope, stream went down again.
7:59:51 PMbp9 Sigh
7:59:52 PMTheFu M1k3_0: just you ... and everyone else.
7:59:54 PMsparklyballs flaky studio internet this week
7:59:56 PMSolbu It's dead, Jim.
7:59:58 PMDennis_Kelley damn Internet!
8:00:02 PMM1k3_0 lol
8:00:18 PMBobK54 It's dead, Jim" LOVE IT!!!
8:00:22 PMTheFu Think I'd have to mv from CA over bad internet.
8:00:37 PMTheFu BobK54: Who's drinkin'?
8:00:50 PMagamotto Well, I must away... I am installing LibreOffice on both of my parents' systems this evening
8:01:22 PMbp9 Sasha;s bac, and so is the stream. :-)
8:01:24 PMnapa_polarbear did we not have an eclipse back in 1979 in canada?
8:01:28 PMBobK54 did they have the show set up to auto disconnect at 8:00??
8:01:29 PMtechstudier stream is back with sound only
8:02:10 PMtechstudier great show as always
8:03:06 PMBobK54 that was a quick hour+
8:03:24 PMbp9 time flies!
8:04:24 PMBobK54 night all, have a great week
8:04:26 PMTheFu Building your own means never having to deal with proprietary PSUs or other funky connectors that only the OEM sells.
8:04:50 PMbp9 Thanks for a fun show!
8:04:53 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Great show
8:04:53 PMDooley_da_Vulcan good night
8:05:48 PMM1k3_0 time to see what's for supper. hope it goes well with Stella :)
8:06:45 PMSashaD2 That was fun and fast!!!
8:07:11 PMTheFu YES!!!
8:07:23 PMbp9 Robbie, find a ham radio operator
8:07:30 PMTheFu Ubiquiti rocks. They make 150km versions.
8:07:41 PMbp9 They can help you with directional antennas, etc.
8:08:07 PMTheFu This is ubiquiti long distance: https://explore.org/livecams/brown-bears/river-watch-brown-bear-salmon-cams
8:08:48 PMM1k3_0 I think he has a directional already.
8:09:14 PMTheFu The 20KM ubiquiti stuff is about $1500
8:09:15 PMABQTKY Robbie, could Henry (the drone pilot) verify line-of-sight and how high the Ubiquiti antennas would have to be? Maybe you wouldn't need to build super high towers at the station...or your house.
8:09:20 PMbp9 Uh Oh it died again.
8:09:38 PMTheFu A telescope works.
8:10:06 PMDennis_Kelley was robbie the techstudier login?
8:10:59 PMTheFu Any business wireless ISP can help. I've considered it myself. GigE is about half a mile away for $80/month.
8:10:59 PMbp9 No he was logged in as RobbieF when the stream dropped out the first time.
8:11:12 PMSolbu An alternative is IP over Avian Cariages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
8:11:24 PMSolbu Soneon actually implemented it. :-)
8:11:29 PMSolbu *someone
8:11:34 PMTheFu But the latency ...
8:12:29 PMSolbu Haha. love the packet loss image on the wikipedia article. :D
8:13:20 PMbp9 I'm guessing they went ahead and shut down the feed since the show was effectively finished.

Participants

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ABQTKY
BobK54
Dennis_Kelley
Dooley_da_Vulcan
Garbee[m]
M1k3_0
SashaD2
Solbu
TheFu
agamotto
bp9
dooley_da_Vulcan
napa_polarbear
orangeman
sparklyballs
techstudier