| 7:01:35 PM | RobbieF | Hi all!!
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| 7:01:49 PM | M1k3_0 | Hi Robbie!
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| 7:01:49 PM | RobbieF | Apologies for delay... almost there.
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| 7:02:11 PM | TheFu | Life, don't talk to me about life.
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| 7:02:41 PM | M1k3_0 | LOL... my favorite android
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| 7:02:45 PM | Guest_9721 | show?
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| 7:02:50 PM | sparklyballs | howdee
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| 7:03:01 PM | RobbieF | almost guest_9721
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| 7:03:44 PM | TheFu | hint: Marvin the paranoid android.
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| 7:04:26 PM | benrob0329 | hello everyone
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| 7:04:29 PM | M1k3_0 | I won't enjoy it
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| 7:04:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello Gang!
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| 7:04:44 PM | TheFu | M1k3_0: nice.
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| 7:04:45 PM | sparklyballs | i was wondering if there was an issue with my new dns setup so i checked out some other cat5 content in the kod plugin and discovered that RobbieF doesn't know the difference between badgers and foxes lol
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| 7:05:32 PM | Solbu | We have connection
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| 7:06:13 PM | alpeck | lets get ready to rumble
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| 7:06:16 PM | TheFu | RobbieF: Looking loanly.
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| 7:06:21 PM | TheFu | and lonely.
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| 7:06:26 PM | sparklyballs | flying solo this evering ?
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| 7:06:40 PM | Dennis_Kelley | evening even!
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| 7:07:18 PM | Dennis_Kelley | he has to read off paper! So last season!
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| 7:07:41 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hi RobbieF
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| 7:08:04 PM | sparklyballs | paper is so last millennium Dennis_Kelley
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| 7:08:11 PM | Dennis_Kelley | true sparklyballs
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| 7:08:57 PM | benrob0329 | hey look a beard
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| 7:09:00 PM | TheFu | They shutdown the entire Atlanta area here for 2 days - over a little rain and 30 mph winds.
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| 7:09:12 PM | TheFu | Burrrrrrr.
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| 7:10:46 PM | TheFu | My former place in Houston was flooded out. Everyone I know was fine and so were their homes. Buddy in Tampa got back home today - no power. Lots of debris, but no real damage.
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| 7:12:24 PM | Solbu | I can't come. The transporter is malfunctioning. :-)
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| 7:12:33 PM | benrob0329 | You mean like...show my face to the internet?
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| 7:12:51 PM | TheFu | My face is made for radio.
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| 7:13:21 PM | TheFu | Couch Surfing .com
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| 7:13:23 PM | sparklyballs | my face is made for braiile
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| 7:13:48 PM | benrob0329 | my TARDIS is on the fritz
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| 7:14:06 PM | TheFu | I can't leave the country for a few months.
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| 7:14:50 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Hello all
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| 7:15:30 PM | TheFu | SSD --
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| 7:17:05 PM | TheFu | Last 2 chromebooks used m.2 SSDs.
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| 7:17:08 PM | benrob0329 | I thought m.2 was NVMe
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| 7:17:21 PM | TheFu | Don't think so.
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| 7:17:24 PM | Ronnicat | Hello RobbieF Wizardboi and I are fine in St. Croix, US Virgin Islands
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| 7:17:55 PM | TheFu | Ronnicat: Did St. Thomas and St. John get through ok?
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| 7:18:02 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i love unboxing time!
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| 7:18:32 PM | TheFu | benrob0329: there are different m.2 forms.
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| 7:18:54 PM | benrob0329 | audio is a little hot
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| 7:18:54 PM | sparklyballs | benrob0329 notice NVMe written on the card ?
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| 7:19:01 PM | TheFu | Yep.
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| 7:20:09 PM | Ronnicat | This is great. I have to upgrade also lots of work to pick out what you want and need
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| 7:22:38 PM | benrob0329 | RobbieF: Audio is a little hot
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| 7:23:32 PM | Ronnicat | sounds great to me
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| 7:25:17 PM | TheFu | Dead air? Is that bad?
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| 7:25:29 PM | Ronnicat | no
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| 7:25:56 PM | SashaD-G6 | I just got home.... Just wanted to pop in quick and say hello- and that I miss you all
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| 7:25:59 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Is this SashaD ? Hello
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| 7:26:10 PM | sparklyballs | hello SashaR
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| 7:26:17 PM | Ronnicat | congrats sasha miss you
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| 7:26:35 PM | alpeck | hi Sasha
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| 7:26:37 PM | Solbu | s/Make it happen/Make it so/
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| 7:26:38 PM | SashaD-G6 | Thank you for all your love and well wishes! I got hitched without a hitch!
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| 7:27:13 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Congrats SashaD ===
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| 7:27:21 PM | Ronnicat | lol
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| 7:27:58 PM | SashaD-G6 | Ill have Robbie change my name (before next week)
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| 7:29:09 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Congrat SashaD-G6
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| 7:29:21 PM | SashaD-G6 | Thank you :)
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| 7:31:01 PM | SashaD-G6 | I better grab some dinner...its been a long day of travel! I cant wait to see you all next week!!!
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| 7:35:01 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | what benchmark software is recommended for linux to test systems?
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| 7:35:28 PM | napa_polarbear1 | hello all
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| 7:35:33 PM | Ronnicat | hello
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| 7:36:10 PM | Ronnicat | @dooley_da_vulcan that is a good question
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| 7:37:15 PM | Solbu | The bottleneck is the human operator. ;-)
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| 7:38:05 PM | TheFu | Solbu: My wallet is the bottleneck here.
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| 7:38:28 PM | Solbu | Hehe, same here. :-)
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| 7:38:51 PM | TheFu | dooley_da_vulcan: I use bonnie++
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| 7:39:01 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF did you record it earlier?
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| 7:39:14 PM | RobbieF | I feel so alone - hahahaa!
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| 7:39:55 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | TheFu, Work pretty well? test most of the system?
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| 7:39:57 PM | TheFu | Hook 'Em!
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| 7:40:06 PM | TheFu | Texas Ex here.
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| 7:40:27 PM | RobbieF | Haha DK - ONLY the news segment so I could use the camera for the computer :p
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| 7:41:03 PM | TheFu | Pre-recorded? I'm not seeing you typing. ;)
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| 7:41:13 PM | sparklyballs | is it live or is it memorex ? blast from the 80's lol
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| 7:41:47 PM | TheFu | The Douglas Adams refs just keep coming today. ;)
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| 7:41:52 PM | RobbieF | I only recorded the news so I could pull this off live - shutting down the server live, doing closeups, etc.
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| 7:41:53 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Your so smart RobbieF
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| 7:42:02 PM | TheFu | "section 42"
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| 7:42:11 PM | TheFu | Milleeeeeeeon.
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| 7:42:21 PM | TheFu | pink to cheek.
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| 7:42:27 PM | TheFu | s/pink/pinky/
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| 7:43:27 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Us older chatters may see the Memorex chat and think nothing about it until its mentioned that its old as hell...lol
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| 7:43:42 PM | TheFu | That site gives different answers.
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| 7:43:45 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Myself included
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| 7:43:56 PM | RobbieF | hahaha yeah I guess so eh? :p
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| 7:43:57 PM | TheFu | Enter the same data and get different answers.
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| 7:44:00 PM | RobbieF | who added that camera?!
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| 7:44:29 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Yeah, lets hire Equifax to protect our privacy....wait
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| 7:44:36 PM | TheFu | http://clark.com/personal-finance-credit/credit-freeze-and-thaw-guide/
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| 7:45:34 PM | TheFu | Equifax is offering free credit freezes now. Still have to pay the other 2 companies, depending on your location. Don't know what Canadians/Mexicans need to know.
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| 7:46:30 PM | TheFu | My 50 facebook accounts must be a common thing?
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| 7:46:44 PM | RobbieF | hahahahah!
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| 7:47:07 PM | TheFu | Or they are illegal immigrants.
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| 7:47:21 PM | sparklyballs | they're coming from mexico and that's why drumpf needs the wall
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| 7:47:56 PM | TheFu | Or other places by going thru Mexico.
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| 7:49:38 PM | TheFu | Don't run php on internet facing systems.
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| 7:49:45 PM | RobbieF | bahahahahaha as if
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| 7:50:11 PM | TheFu | Works here. We require a vpn be used to access any php web-apps.
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| 7:50:27 PM | TheFu | OWASP warns against php webapps.
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| 7:50:43 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | system freaked out
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| 7:50:56 PM | TheFu | https://www.owasp.org/index.php/PHP_Security_Cheat_Sheet
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| 7:51:32 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | anyone else here using Solus 3 ???
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| 7:51:42 PM | Dennis_Kelley | great Job RobbieF
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| 7:52:28 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I've a 7 second reboot time from grub to login
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| 7:52:33 PM | Ronnicat | Awesome Job RobbieF
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| 7:53:34 PM | TheFu | RobbieF has a wide range of knowledge. I always learn something new here every week - after 25+ yrs doing Linux and Unix admin.
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| 7:54:04 PM | Ronnicat | @dooley_da_vulcan I think my grub is about the same
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| 7:54:16 PM | TheFu | Comcast says I can have 1Gbps service as of this month!!!!! Only $499/month.
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| 7:54:28 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Ronnicat, what distro do you use?
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| 7:54:32 PM | TheFu | With an $800 setup fee.
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| 7:54:41 PM | Ronnicat | Mate
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| 7:54:52 PM | Ronnicat | Ubuntu Mate
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| 7:55:10 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I can get 1 gig here in Indianapolis, In for about $100 a month
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| 7:55:31 PM | Ronnicat | I have been using Linus since Mandrake days
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| 7:56:04 PM | TheFu | dooley_da_vulcan: They don't offer Gig service for residential customers here yet.
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| 7:56:06 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I am currently getting a 300mb connection for $90 a month, so no need to switch and have possible switching problems.
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| 7:56:07 PM | sparklyballs | poor linus he needs a rest from the abuse
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| 7:56:22 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | TheFu, that really sucks
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| 7:57:03 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Over using Linus might burn him out...lol
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| 7:57:22 PM | TheFu | Well, I have a business and multiple static IPs, so .... no data caps or lots of other little things that residential people have to deal with.
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| 7:57:24 PM | Ronnicat | @sparklyballs lol you are so funny
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| 7:57:54 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | WooHoo......OWWWWW
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| 7:58:04 PM | TheFu | LAN parties?
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| 7:58:10 PM | TheFu | s/LAN/WAN/
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| 7:58:59 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | sounds like they are still screwing you folks up north....
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| 7:59:02 PM | TheFu | And monthly costs?
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| 8:00:00 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | offering the public here if you qualify for say elderly service.... 10 mb for 9.99 a month...no install. thats crazy
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| 8:00:41 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Won't have to use Dreamhost?
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| 8:02:27 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | No live persons to play off of
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| 8:02:37 PM | TheFu | dooley_da_vulcan: Business internet is different from residential best effort.
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| 8:02:47 PM | Ronnicat | great show tonight but that is every week
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| 8:02:53 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | you could cut your dreamhost fees couldnt you?
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| 8:02:58 PM | TheFu | I called my ISP 3 times today - got directly into a person, without any accent.
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| 8:03:09 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | yes
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| 8:03:12 PM | sparklyballs | shouldn't be hampered with contention rates on a business account
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| 8:04:20 PM | TheFu | sparklyballs: My provider does different physical infra for business vs residential.
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| 8:05:04 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Thanks, sounds like you get more than I thought
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| 8:05:32 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Great show, entertaining and informative as usual.
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| 8:06:04 PM | TheFu | If I didn't run 20 VMs, I'd move to residential and use 1 VPS as a front-end for my needs.
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| 8:06:44 PM | TheFu | 20 VMs tips the pricing from VPS towards self-hosting, for me.
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| 8:06:55 PM | alpeck | great show Robbie...brings back memories of days past.
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| 8:07:01 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | my kid just bought a gigabit linksys router for $30 at Wally World a 1.3 gb router for $34 because it's being discontinued
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| 8:08:20 PM | sparklyballs | i use pfsense here and a pi3 for dnscrypt and phole
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| 8:08:27 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | did robbie cut his own feed?
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| 8:08:34 PM | Ronnicat | oh wow
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| 8:08:50 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Thanks RobbieF
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| 8:08:56 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | thanks RobbieF
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| 8:08:58 PM | RobbieF | :)
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| 8:09:03 PM | RobbieF | oh was it buffered?
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| 8:09:06 PM | RobbieF | did I cut myself off?
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| 8:09:12 PM | RobbieF | sorry :p
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| 8:09:18 PM | TheFu | thanks RobbieF ...
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| 8:09:21 PM | bp9 | Yup, we lost your video feed :-/
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| 8:09:26 PM | RobbieF | lach sorry
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| 8:09:27 PM | TheFu | I hate long goodbyes.
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| 8:09:37 PM | RobbieF | I was talking, then finished, then signed off, then turned it off...
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| 8:09:41 PM | RobbieF | guess the feed was buffered :(
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| 8:09:44 PM | RobbieF | hope you didn't miss too much
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| 8:10:03 PM | RobbieF | did you hear about the PTZ?
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| 8:10:03 PM | TheFu | I'm guessing 15 - 45 sec
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| 8:10:05 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: What was the issue with a contract vs no contract?
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| 8:10:06 PM | sparklyballs | it's about 10-15 seconds behind live on kodi
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| 8:10:08 PM | Ronnicat | you did wonderful still
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| 8:10:15 PM | RobbieF | Thanks so much Ronnicat
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| 8:10:18 PM | bp9 | The nice thing about the live feed is the outtakes, and the in-between bits LOL
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| 8:10:28 PM | RobbieF | :p
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| 8:10:31 PM | Solbu | bp9: Yes. :-)
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| 8:10:37 PM | RobbieF | yeah I enjoy the "us" time as well bp9
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| 8:10:40 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I am thinking of plugging my plex drie into the router, that way anydistro I use has access and I can stream directly from it anywhere locally at high speeds and even tap into it using my own vpn
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| 8:10:49 PM | Ronnicat | We watch you each week from St.Croix but we missed you last week thanks to Irma
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| 8:11:07 PM | RobbieF | Glad you are safe Ronnicat.
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| 8:11:15 PM | Ronnicat | thanks
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| 8:11:19 PM | TheFu | dooley_da_vulcan: Don't connect storage into an internet connected router.
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| 8:11:25 PM | TheFu | Terrible for security.
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| 8:11:39 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | its the difference between the polished file and the live feed that makes it feel like a group of friends just hanging out together
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| 8:12:02 PM | RobbieF | agreed
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| 8:12:20 PM | Ronnicat | so true
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| 8:12:37 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I was gonna hook it up as a second router tapped into the main one with password access only
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| 8:13:32 PM | TheFu | Passwords aren't sufficient protection over the internet. If you use a VPN, fine. If you don't, just use ssh/scp/sftp. IMHO.
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| 8:13:35 PM | Ronnicat | It has been great good night to all
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| 8:13:35 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | do you think I can have a secure enough access point with say 25 alpha numeric pw
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| 8:13:38 PM | bp9 | I wish I could get home in time for the start of the live show... I feel like i miss a lot as a result.
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| 8:13:48 PM | TheFu | dooley_da_vulcan: no.
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| 8:14:05 PM | Ronnicat | 32 better
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| 8:14:07 PM | TheFu | Use a VPN with certs or ssh-based with ssh-keys.
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| 8:14:13 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I always listen to opinions of others with more knowledge and experience than I have
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| 8:14:18 PM | bp9 | dooley: definitely NOT. I use SSH with at least 4096-bit key.
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| 8:14:32 PM | TheFu | bp9: Exactly.
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| 8:14:52 PM | TheFu | Be certain your ssh is using one of the newer ciphers too.
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| 8:14:56 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | what about my own vpn with open vpn that is available through the router?
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| 8:15:01 PM | bp9 | But as Robbie was saying earlier in his podcast, DSL sucks because the out speed is s-l-o-w vs the inbound speed.
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| 8:15:03 PM | TheFu | There are some dangers with RSA
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| 8:15:32 PM | bp9 | So I'm limited with what I can do when I ssh in. Typically stay on the command line.
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| 8:15:34 PM | TheFu | dooley_da_vulcan: openvpn is fine if you use IPSec, not pptp.
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| 8:15:52 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF: linux all the way, baby! :-)
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| 8:15:54 PM | TheFu | ssh usually includes scp, sftp, and sshfs.
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| 8:16:11 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | well right now I have 350mb down and 25mb up
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| 8:16:22 PM | bp9 | I use scp on my internal network but not usually over DSL.
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| 8:16:30 PM | TheFu | dooley_da_vulcan: I have 15M/3M.
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| 8:16:54 PM | TheFu | bp9: Every Linux file browser supports sftp:// ... and will honor ssh keys.
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| 8:17:10 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | TheFu, you meaning 15 meg bit or byte
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| 8:17:17 PM | TheFu | Mb.
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| 8:17:28 PM | TheFu | $112/month.
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| 8:17:47 PM | TheFu | No data cap. 5 static IPs.
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| 8:17:49 PM | bp9 | Thanks TheFu. I still typcally want to restrict what I do when I'm connecting in just because of the poor outbound rate.
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| 8:18:09 PM | bp9 | (over DSL)
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| 8:18:30 PM | bp9 | I'm sure that would work reallly well on the internal network.
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| 8:18:45 PM | TheFu | Solbu: Not quite enough to stream hidef video, but fine for music.
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| 8:19:03 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | yeah, brighthouse here has no caps, 300/25 Mb for $100 that is why I am not switching to the fiber with At&t for about the same price, its more than I need either way
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| 8:19:07 PM | Solbu | TheFu: I stream 1080p just fine.
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| 8:19:20 PM | TheFu | At what compression / quality?
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| 8:19:38 PM | Solbu | TheFu: Uhm, ask Youtube. :D
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| 8:20:04 PM | TheFu | With your house as the source?
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| 8:20:13 PM | Solbu | No.
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| 8:20:51 PM | Solbu | All streaming is inbound.
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| 8:20:51 PM | TheFu | Ah ... down isn't a big deal. It is the UP that is an issue for most non-business ISP connections. They are asymmetric.
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| 8:21:03 PM | TheFu | Not all streaming is inbound.
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| 8:21:12 PM | Solbu | In my household it is. ;-)
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| 8:21:16 PM | TheFu | Look at RobbieF
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| 8:21:26 PM | TheFu | Solbu: No video chats?
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| 8:21:31 PM | Solbu | Nope.
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| 8:21:35 PM | TheFu | Teleconferences?
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| 8:21:46 PM | Solbu | Once a month, using Mumble.
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| 8:21:46 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I stream from my plex in home to my 4g phone with no issues at 2 and 4 mb
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| 8:21:47 PM | TheFu | Skype - sorry - dumb question.
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| 8:22:26 PM | bp9 | Dooley, you are probably using WiFi in that case, not the cell network
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| 8:22:33 PM | Solbu | I can't use Skype, as there isn't a Free client for it yet. (Free as defined by the FSF)
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| 8:22:33 PM | TheFu | I usually turn the plex video bitrate down to watch stuff when away from home.
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| 8:22:40 PM | benrob0329 | YouTube butchers the quality :-(
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| 8:22:41 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | nope, I turn off the wifi
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| 8:22:52 PM | benrob0329 | Both color and bitrate
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| 8:23:11 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I use it when out and about also
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| 8:23:16 PM | bp9 | Dooley, really? So you're streaming out to the interwebs?
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| 8:23:41 PM | TheFu | bp9: I do too.
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| 8:23:55 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | yesss?
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| 8:24:07 PM | TheFu | Just connect to my plex system using a socks proxy for streaming. No need for a plex userid.
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| 8:24:40 PM | Solbu | I had an icecast stream running from my house at one point. 24/7 for about 8 years or so.
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| 8:24:44 PM | TheFu | Did everyone running plex see the change to their privacy policy?
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| 8:25:16 PM | bp9 | OK... I'm surprised because to me that would mean allowing incoming connections (maybe not with socks proxy) and also using up all that limited outbound bandwidth
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| 8:25:31 PM | bp9 | Both are things I just won't do. :-)
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| 8:25:37 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | did you see the modification to the policy right after
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| 8:25:55 PM | TheFu | bp9: it is all ssh, using ssh-keys.
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| 8:26:23 PM | bp9 | TheFu and Dooly: Does the policy hold if you have a plex account? (I don't)
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| 8:26:27 PM | Solbu | I streamed our county police band, to the internet, having up to 5 external servers, with a combined capacity of about 5000 listeners.
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| 8:26:36 PM | TheFu | dooley_da_vulcan: I saw they backed off some of the most offensive things, but ... not everything.
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| 8:27:13 PM | TheFu | Solbu: audio is 1000x easier than video, but 5K listeners **is** impressive.
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| 8:28:23 PM | TheFu | I've accessed streamed video using mbone/multicast at one work campus. It was pretty impressive. They controlled the TTL so video wouldn't leave our facility.
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| 8:28:28 PM | Solbu | Before I took over the source stream, there was a max capacity of 20 listeners.. heh
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| 8:28:55 PM | TheFu | The 5 external servers were in a DC somewhere?
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| 8:29:10 PM | Solbu | I have no idea. :-)
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| 8:30:01 PM | Solbu | One of the servers were mine, which had a cap of 30. We had a bandwith usage of 300Gb per month, the stream used 90% of that. :-)
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| 8:30:05 PM | TheFu | At 48kbps ... a 1 Gbps server should be able to handle .... X clients, where X is ... .
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| 8:30:54 PM | TheFu | 18K concurrent users.
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| 8:30:59 PM | TheFu | -ish.
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| 8:31:04 PM | Solbu | After a while someone wanted to provide two stream servers, so i gave them access to the main stream, wich required username and password.
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| 8:31:43 PM | TheFu | What bitrate? Mono?
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| 8:31:57 PM | Solbu | 32 kbps, mono.
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| 8:32:18 PM | Solbu | The source was a police scanner.. :-)
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| 8:32:29 PM | TheFu | So even more concurrent streams. Running out of ports on a server would be the issue. ;)
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| 8:33:36 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | well, sorry my food is here, Good night all. Have a great week!
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| 8:34:13 PM | TheFu | A brother-in-law runs a 1W FM music station. He likes to listen when jogging in the neighborhood.
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| 8:34:19 PM | TheFu | dooley_da_vulcan: g'night.
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| 8:34:20 PM | RobbieF | take care dooley
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| 8:34:33 PM | bp9 | Good night Dooley
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| 8:34:43 PM | Solbu | Just before we got the two high capacity streams, we had a capacity of about 250 listeners. Our citys main highway was closed in both directions for 8 hours. It was the only time I got complaints of people not being able to connect. :-)
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| 8:34:46 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Thanks RobbieF good night all
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| 8:35:47 PM | TheFu | So the servers were 10Mbps connected?
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| 8:36:00 PM | TheFu | Was this pre-2000?
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| 8:36:03 PM | Solbu | No, 100Mbit
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| 8:36:20 PM | Solbu | I streamed from 2006 to about 2014
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| 8:36:27 PM | TheFu | Is my network calc off?
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| 8:36:49 PM | Solbu | …when the police band was replaced with an encrypted system.
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| 8:37:00 PM | TheFu | I'm getting 8Mbps needed for 250 @ 32Kbps.
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| 8:37:22 PM | Solbu | Sounds about right.
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| 8:37:46 PM | Solbu | I had a 450 kbps uplink. :-)
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| 8:38:02 PM | Solbu | Hence the need for external stream servers.
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| 8:38:22 PM | TheFu | I think in the USA, since 2001, all police/fire/emergency services have the ability to use the same encryption across the country. I think the feds mandated it for interoperability ... with the federal grants to buy the new equipment.
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| 8:38:27 PM | TheFu | But I could be wrong.
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| 8:40:25 PM | Solbu | It was a good learning experience running an icecast streaming service for 9 years.
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| 8:40:52 PM | Solbu | Just checked, the stream was closed march 13, 2015.
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| 8:42:56 PM | Solbu | I remember someone actually made an Android app so people could connect to our Ogg Vorbis encoded stream. :-)
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| 8:51:40 PM | bp9 | Solbu: Encrypted radio: are you thinking of trunked radio?
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| 8:52:13 PM | bp9 | Regular scanners cannot receive trunked signals, but a special trunk-capable scanner will.
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| 8:52:25 PM | Solbu | bp9: No, the communication is actualy encrypted using encryption keys.
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| 8:53:10 PM | Solbu | Our country is using the TETRA system, which is a kind of mobile phone system.
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| 8:53:53 PM | Solbu | And since breaking the encryption in order to listen is a crime, there will be no more streaming of the police band in our country. :-)
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| 8:59:14 PM | Solbu | Here is the wikipedia article on the subject: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Public_Safety_Network
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| 9:00:48 PM | bp9 | Solbu: Interesting. Here in the USA most law enforcement, etc. is still on regular VHF radio, and some have moved to trunking systems, but as far as I know none have gone the encrypted route.
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| 9:01:36 PM | bp9 | Trunking and encryption are basically data systems which utilize the bandwidth much more effectively. Thanks for the link. :-)
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