| 6:58:38 PM | Dennis_Kelley | SashaD-G6 when is Dave going to co-co-host with you?
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| 6:59:58 PM | SashaD-G6 | We are almost ready to rock! Dave we be on the show soon enough ;)
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| 7:00:12 PM | Solbu | Check, 3, 4.
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| 7:00:14 PM | Dennis_Kelley | :)
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| 7:00:28 PM | HenryBB | CHECK MATE! lol
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| 7:00:32 PM | sparklyballs | check please
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| 7:00:37 PM | sparklyballs | i'm outta here
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| 7:01:01 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Check is in the Mail!
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| 7:01:01 PM | HenryBB | wow... new studio... I've been totally out of the loop
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| 7:01:12 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Yes!
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| 7:01:14 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Yes!
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| 7:01:22 PM | sparklyballs | feed froze
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| 7:01:34 PM | Solbu | Yes, we hear you… and dead..
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| 7:01:34 PM | HenryBB | same here ^ on pc
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| 7:01:44 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Me too!
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| 7:01:47 PM | Dennis_Kelley | on Roku
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| 7:02:13 PM | Dennis_Kelley | just refreshed and its working!
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| 7:02:29 PM | HenryBB | same
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| 7:02:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | So HenryBB are you there? or not there?
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| 7:02:45 PM | HenryBB | CONGRATS SASHA!
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| 7:02:59 PM | HenryBB | and out there... somewhere... haha looooooooooooong story
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| 7:03:00 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Congrats SashaD-G6
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| 7:03:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | SashaD-G6 is an old married chick now!
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| 7:03:45 PM | HenryBB | Happy 10th b-day, all!
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| 7:03:56 PM | HenryBB | (almost)
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| 7:04:05 PM | Dennis_Kelley | wait for it HenryBB
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| 7:04:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | wish I could be there! :'(
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| 7:04:52 PM | sparklyballs | is the background jittery ?
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| 7:05:14 PM | Garbee[m] | heyo
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| 7:05:23 PM | Guest_4387 | Hello @RobbieF
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| 7:05:51 PM | HenryBB | ASUS
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| 7:05:52 PM | M1k3_0 | yes sparklyballs
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| 7:06:25 PM | Garbee[m] | And a built-in debug display!
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| 7:06:36 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Super Sexy!
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| 7:06:41 PM | sparklyballs | thanks M1k3_0 i thought i was drunk which would have been odd as i haven't had a beer for a while
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| 7:06:42 PM | Solbu | Anyone seeing the cloesup cam?
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| 7:06:51 PM | Solbu | *closeup
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| 7:06:53 PM | HenryBB | added post ;)
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| 7:06:56 PM | M1k3_0 | lol
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| 7:06:57 PM | Garbee[m] | Solbu: No.
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| 7:07:06 PM | Garbee[m] | That will probably go into the video in post for the on-demand.
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| 7:07:38 PM | Dennis_Kelley | will have to checkout the download!
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| 7:08:02 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Robbie is wearing a fitting shirt for the night!
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| 7:08:43 PM | Solbu | Dennis_Kelley: Hehe. Good catch. Didn't see that until you mentioned it.
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| 7:11:47 PM | Garbee[m] | Robbie has a lot of work in post to do with this one.
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| 7:11:59 PM | Dennis_Kelley | thanks Solbu
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| 7:12:50 PM | BobK54 | I got my very first Useless Box yesterday. S.W.E.E.T. :)
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| 7:13:06 PM | Dennis_Kelley | hi garywhite
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| 7:13:50 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello Everyone! Didn't say it earlier
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| 7:13:57 PM | sparklyballs | hi DK
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| 7:14:01 PM | Dooley | Hi again Robbie
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| 7:14:09 PM | HenryBB | back to work, heading out. Happy building! :)
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| 7:14:17 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hi Mr.Sparklyballs
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| 7:16:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | should they have static protection on?
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| 7:17:37 PM | Dooley | On mobile
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| 7:17:41 PM | sparklyballs | they grounded themselves beforehand but i always wore a static band when i was building systems back in the day for tulip computers
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| 7:22:12 PM | sparklyballs | aww mum but i wanted to hit him lol
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| 7:26:57 PM | Dennis_Kelley | oh missed that!
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| 7:28:36 PM | Dennis_Kelley | yes the priest speech!
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| 7:30:06 PM | sparklyballs | for some reason i was comparing marriage to olives and got as far as was if all else fails you can drown it in a martini
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| 7:30:21 PM | Dennis_Kelley | SashaD-G6: The Impressive Clergyman: Mawage. Mawage is wot bwings us togeder tooday. Mawage, that bwessed awangment, that dweam wifin a dweam… And wuv, tru wuv, will fowow you foweva… So tweasure your wuv.
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| 7:31:41 PM | SashaD-G6 | Yes!!!!!!
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| 7:31:58 PM | Dooley | Hey RobbieF you will never guess what else is going on?
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| 7:33:17 PM | Dennis_Kelley | robbie so wants to just build this himself!
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| 7:33:39 PM | Dennis_Kelley | kind of giddy!
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| 7:36:01 PM | Solbu | And frozen.
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| 7:36:53 PM | M1k3_0 | reloading but nothing yet
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| 7:37:03 PM | Dennis_Kelley | no sound
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| 7:37:10 PM | sparklyballs | and back
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| 7:37:20 PM | M1k3_0 | yes
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| 7:38:11 PM | Dennis_Kelley | ok reloaded with sound !
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| 7:38:31 PM | Dennis_Kelley | it is cool!
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| 7:38:49 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Robbie hand disappeared!
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| 7:38:56 PM | M1k3_0 | Man.... starting to drool again. Time to put the bib on.
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| 7:42:58 PM | Dennis_Kelley | that was funny! Robbie just did it, SashaD-G6 had issues!
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| 7:46:47 PM | Dennis_Kelley | maybe SashaD-G6 needs to stand on her head!
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| 7:48:01 PM | Dennis_Kelley | looks like Dooley is having issue also!
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| 7:50:20 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | hello
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| 7:50:50 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Linux for the Win!
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| 7:51:02 PM | Garbee[m] | SashaD-G6: Why is your nick not updated to SashaR6-G6 yet?
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| 7:53:19 PM | Dennis_Kelley | SashaD-G6: is your family in newfoundland?
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| 7:54:30 PM | SashaD-G6 | Dave's is :)
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| 7:56:32 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Cool! My wife was wondering. she watched the show with me tonight
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| 7:56:41 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | is robbie around?
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| 7:57:26 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Hi SashaD-G6
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| 7:58:05 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Robbie Helped last week with a gnarly trojan on my bosses machine.
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| 7:58:35 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | inform him of the situation
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| 7:58:39 PM | BobK54 | Ohio Linux Fest in Columbus Ohio on 29 and 30 September is anyone is interested
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| 8:04:20 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | hey is anyone here?
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| 8:04:37 PM | Solbu | Yes, stream died thou.
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| 8:05:14 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | hey, you remember the troubles last week?
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| 8:06:06 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | friday afternoon specifically
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| 8:06:07 PM | Garbee[m] | Refresh to get the stream back.
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| 8:06:41 PM | Solbu | dooley_da_vulcan: I do rememer that. :-)
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| 8:09:50 PM | Garbee[m] | Bye!
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| 8:10:08 PM | Garbee[m] | Enjoy the bike ride SashaD-G6.
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| 8:10:14 PM | BobK54 | night all !! fun to watch the build. I need to do that soon too
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| 8:11:17 PM | SashaD-G6 | Thank you so much for your support eveyone! :) see you next week!!!
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| 8:11:58 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | take a listen to this. after installing esets and getting a clean scan on both machines. his email password came back incorrect. he logged into his service, changed it again. logged in and it was fine. waited an hour and tried again and it was invalid again. he done this over a few hours with repeated results.
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| 8:12:23 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | that tells me it is not a keylogger on his machine, so the only possible is at the source....godaddy
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| 8:12:35 PM | Garbee[m] | ugh.
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| 8:12:39 PM | Garbee[m] | Godaddy is awful.
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| 8:12:52 PM | Garbee[m] | Just moved someone off of their crap the other day. Terrible experience.
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| 8:13:23 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | all reviews I found was at best bad and downhill from there
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| 8:13:27 PM | Garbee[m] | They added 3 hours to a simple task. Then blamed it on ICANN "regulation changes" which were simply not true. Yes, the rules changed but not how GoDaddy has interpreted them.
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| 8:13:42 PM | Garbee[m] | They made the rules changes so the company can now be more strict and difficult to get away from.
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| 8:14:08 PM | Garbee[m] | when the actual rule changes don't state anything remotely close to what they say for reality.
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| 8:14:37 PM | Garbee[m] | Just move them off ASAP.
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| 8:14:53 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | read one that stated they thought they were using black hacking to funnel customers to more services. their rep tried selling a SSL certification that would not stop a keylogger
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| 8:15:12 PM | Garbee[m] | GoDaddy is the absolute worst of all hosts. Only alive due to people stuck in their ways and massive advertising. Then from those two all the scams they pull on their own customers.
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| 8:15:21 PM | Garbee[m] | Yup.
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| 8:15:50 PM | Garbee[m] | The person I moved off was sold on some $200 (for two years) "Security Package". Which basically, is all the security shit a host should do anyways.
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| 8:16:15 PM | Garbee[m] | Oh, and they don't give you any pro-rated refund after 30 days. Once you're past that, all that money is gone.
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| 8:16:16 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I showed my boss that they offer free ssl cert
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| 8:16:17 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | on dreamhost
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| 8:16:19 PM | Garbee[m] | Even if you move out a day late.
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| 8:16:35 PM | Garbee[m] | So, they are doing a chargeback on it to try and get the credit company to make things right.
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| 8:16:47 PM | Garbee[m] | Yea, I think Dreamhost is moved onto Let's Encrypt now.
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| 8:16:54 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | my son who is a network manager said he would hope they would not be hacking peoples email just to push other services.
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| 8:17:11 PM | Garbee[m] | A few companies are doing it, even though some still charge a few dollars for the automatic updating part (which is trivial, but what the hell.)
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| 8:17:37 PM | Garbee[m] | $3 a month for an LE cert is way better than even the $7 per month bulk Semantic or Comodo certs they were handing out.
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| 8:17:48 PM | Garbee[m] | They're not doing that.
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| 8:18:11 PM | Garbee[m] | But, they do have lackluster security measures everywhere and make customers pay for them to try and do their job.
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| 8:18:26 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I think ssl encryption is better for the host co rather than the customers. it prevents or helps to prevent their servers from getting infected...am I not correct on that thought?
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| 8:18:31 PM | Garbee[m] | If Satan had a child it would be named GoDaddy.
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| 8:18:44 PM | Garbee[m] | You are absolutely incorrect there.
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| 8:18:52 PM | Garbee[m] | It does not a single thing to prevent infection.
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| 8:18:58 PM | Garbee[m] | It is for the customer's gain alone.
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| 8:19:28 PM | Garbee[m] | As it is the TLS Cert that shows the server hosting the content is coming from the controller of the Domain and isn't tampered with (within reason) along the way to you.
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| 8:20:04 PM | Garbee[m] | Hosting providers get nothing out of you having a certificate except the headace to manage them and keep them updated.
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| 8:20:34 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I mean if your data is going back and forth from your host to destination and gets stopped along the way and infected and sent on, can it not get the person on the other end along withthe hosting site. vs being encrypted and making it more difficult to get to either end?
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| 8:20:56 PM | Garbee[m] | If you're that stupid, the TLS cert isn't helping you.
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| 8:21:17 PM | Garbee[m] | Never execute commands directly from clients.
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| 8:21:56 PM | Garbee[m] | That's just the first thing any bottom feeding web dev is taught.
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| 8:22:12 PM | Garbee[m] | And if you are executing commands like that directly from clients, it doesn't matter whether a TLS cert is there or not.
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| 8:22:32 PM | Garbee[m] | Who says the person with a TLS Connection isn't opening developer tools (or their terminal) to specifically attack you?
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| 8:22:47 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | but does it give a certain level of mental ease to at least hope the encrypted data streams have not been jacked with going back and forth, thus the hosting location has less chance of infection from an SSL connection than a no ssl stream?
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| 8:23:23 PM | Garbee[m] | No.
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| 8:23:33 PM | Garbee[m] | If you have mental ease from that, don't do security.
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| 8:23:47 PM | Garbee[m] | TRUST NO ONE
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| 8:23:54 PM | Garbee[m] | Best advice ever.
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| 8:23:58 PM | Garbee[m] | In terms of security.
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| 8:24:05 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I am just now self teaching and watching some hacking videos and instructional videos on wireshark. just wanting to be able to investigate stuff a bit better than I can now
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| 8:24:43 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | so are any antivirus co out here that you know of on par with esets?
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| 8:24:50 PM | Garbee[m] | TLS is purely about protecting the client connection to the server itself to help prevent spying eyes and middle-man modifications.
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| 8:24:54 PM | Garbee[m] | nothing else.
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| 8:25:14 PM | Garbee[m] | It has nothing to do with server-level security, nor client-level (directly, you can trigger increased security once you have TLS on clients.)
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| 8:25:26 PM | Garbee[m] | TLS is purely about the network in between.
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| 8:25:37 PM | Garbee[m] | No, ESET is the best paid.
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| 8:25:49 PM | Garbee[m] | Other than that, just run Microsoft Security Essentials if you don't want to pay.
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| 8:25:57 PM | Garbee[m] | (Or just whatever Win 10 has built in.)
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| 8:26:41 PM | Garbee[m] | A/V is only good to detect things after you've done something stupid 99% of the time. At that point, you're infected.
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| 8:26:57 PM | Garbee[m] | ESET is the best at being minimal and catching as much as it can up front and quickly.
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| 8:27:10 PM | Garbee[m] | But, nothing still stops you from clicking yes to tell ESET to go away. ;)
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| 8:29:19 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I know, I have always been the guy that was on BBS downloading stuff and honestly remember getting infected since 1986 2 times, once was the keypress e virus. if you pressed it locked up your machine
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| 8:29:20 PM | Garbee[m] | Whole heartedly though, ESET if you can afford paying for it is well worth supporting as a company.
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| 8:31:22 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I am running linux myself. my boss is who was infected and I think he may have pressed the no I am stupid button because there was only 2 people an he was one that could have pressed it. and he is not going off on the other person. that would suggest he was the culprit
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| 8:31:48 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I have him signed up for a 2 system 2 year license
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| 8:32:39 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | and after donating my time all day friday I had him give a very generous donation to robbies tip jar.
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| 8:33:49 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Robbie was in here helping me out for several hours, trying to get the system clean. It was a new and very ugly backdoor trojan.
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| 8:34:52 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | He copied it and pasted it into his twitter channel showing how ugly it is and warning others. It was reaching out it looked like to a Russian address and bringing back in all kinds of different malware and stuff
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| 8:36:18 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | but for his system to be protected by esets and him to repeatedly change his email address and it get changed repeatedly sounds like a problem at the source. be it their own doing or an outside source manipulating their users data.
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| 8:42:01 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | whats up???????? sorry, I have nothing after...Robbie was in here helping me out for several hours, trying to get the system clean. It was a new and very ugly backdoor trojan.
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| 8:42:22 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | He copied it and pasted it into his twitter channel showing how ugly it is and warning others. It was reaching out it looked like to a Russian address and bringing back in all kinds of different malware and stuff
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| 8:42:29 PM | garywhite | It went through dooley
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| 8:42:34 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | but for his system to be protected by esets and him to repeatedly change his email address and it get changed repeatedly sounds like a problem at the source. be it their own doing or an outside source manipulating their users data.
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| 8:42:37 PM | garywhite | My bouncer picked it up
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| 8:42:57 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | why am I getting bumped out of the channel?
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| 8:43:07 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | is this common?
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| 8:43:09 PM | garywhite | Might be a character limit
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| 8:43:17 PM | garywhite | idk
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| 8:43:25 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I have never had the problem with my home internet
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| 8:43:57 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | but that issue with my bosses email pw getting changed to seem like a hacked system
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| 8:44:08 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | when protected by esets
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| 8:44:29 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | like 3 times in 3 hrs
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| 8:45:27 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | either being done by godaddy or someone hacking ingodaddy.??? I cannot think of another source
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| 8:46:12 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | thing is the Management account is not being messed with, which he is loggong into to change his sub account after it is changed.
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| 8:50:43 PM | Garbee[m] | Nah, he isn't hitting any spam guards.
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| 8:50:58 PM | Garbee[m] | That is primarily triggered on one/two rapid messages that are massive in length that they get chunked.
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| 8:51:08 PM | Garbee[m] | And, you'll see that in the auto-kick message.
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| 8:51:26 PM | Garbee[m] | It's a network, things get re-routed all the time.
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| 8:52:19 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | ?
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| 8:52:53 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | firefox says people are chatting yet I see no new text????
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| 9:01:06 PM | Garbee[m] | I don't know what you're seeing exactly.
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| 9:01:46 PM | Garbee[m] | But, I'm out for the night.
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| 9:01:47 PM | Garbee[m] | See ya'll later.
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| 9:02:13 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | goodnight s
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