Chat Logs for Episode 522 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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With 45 Posts:Garbee[m]
With 36 Posts:Dennis_Kelley
With 20 Posts:dooley_da_vulcan
With 11 Posts:HenryBB
With 10 Posts:sparklyballs


Chat Logs:

6:58:38 PMDennis_Kelley SashaD-G6 when is Dave going to co-co-host with you?
6:59:58 PMSashaD-G6 We are almost ready to rock! Dave we be on the show soon enough ;)
7:00:12 PMSolbu Check, 3, 4.
7:00:14 PMDennis_Kelley :)
7:00:28 PMHenryBB CHECK MATE! lol
7:00:32 PMsparklyballs check please
7:00:37 PMsparklyballs i'm outta here
7:01:01 PMDennis_Kelley Check is in the Mail!
7:01:01 PMHenryBB wow... new studio... I've been totally out of the loop
7:01:12 PMDennis_Kelley Yes!
7:01:14 PMDennis_Kelley Yes!
7:01:22 PMsparklyballs feed froze
7:01:34 PMSolbu Yes, we hear you… and dead..
7:01:34 PMHenryBB same here ^ on pc
7:01:44 PMDennis_Kelley Me too!
7:01:47 PMDennis_Kelley on Roku
7:02:13 PMDennis_Kelley just refreshed and its working!
7:02:29 PMHenryBB same
7:02:35 PMDennis_Kelley So HenryBB are you there? or not there?
7:02:45 PMHenryBB CONGRATS SASHA!
7:02:59 PMHenryBB and out there... somewhere... haha looooooooooooong story
7:03:00 PMDennis_Kelley Congrats SashaD-G6
7:03:27 PMDennis_Kelley SashaD-G6 is an old married chick now!
7:03:45 PMHenryBB Happy 10th b-day, all!
7:03:56 PMHenryBB (almost)
7:04:05 PMDennis_Kelley wait for it HenryBB
7:04:35 PMDennis_Kelley wish I could be there! :'(
7:04:52 PMsparklyballs is the background jittery ?
7:05:14 PMGarbee[m] heyo
7:05:23 PMGuest_4387 Hello @RobbieF
7:05:51 PMHenryBB ASUS
7:05:52 PMM1k3_0 yes sparklyballs
7:06:25 PMGarbee[m] And a built-in debug display!
7:06:36 PMDennis_Kelley Super Sexy!
7:06:41 PMsparklyballs thanks M1k3_0 i thought i was drunk which would have been odd as i haven't had a beer for a while
7:06:42 PMSolbu Anyone seeing the cloesup cam?
7:06:51 PMSolbu *closeup
7:06:53 PMHenryBB added post ;)
7:06:56 PMM1k3_0 lol
7:06:57 PMGarbee[m] Solbu: No.
7:07:06 PMGarbee[m] That will probably go into the video in post for the on-demand.
7:07:38 PMDennis_Kelley will have to checkout the download!
7:08:02 PMDennis_Kelley Robbie is wearing a fitting shirt for the night!
7:08:43 PMSolbu Dennis_Kelley: Hehe. Good catch. Didn't see that until you mentioned it.
7:11:47 PMGarbee[m] Robbie has a lot of work in post to do with this one.
7:11:59 PMDennis_Kelley thanks Solbu
7:12:50 PMBobK54 I got my very first Useless Box yesterday. S.W.E.E.T. :)
7:13:06 PMDennis_Kelley hi garywhite
7:13:50 PMDennis_Kelley Hello Everyone! Didn't say it earlier
7:13:57 PMsparklyballs hi DK
7:14:01 PMDooley Hi again Robbie
7:14:09 PMHenryBB back to work, heading out. Happy building! :)
7:14:17 PMDennis_Kelley Hi Mr.Sparklyballs
7:16:51 PMDennis_Kelley should they have static protection on?
7:17:37 PMDooley On mobile
7:17:41 PMsparklyballs they grounded themselves beforehand but i always wore a static band when i was building systems back in the day for tulip computers
7:22:12 PMsparklyballs aww mum but i wanted to hit him lol
7:26:57 PMDennis_Kelley oh missed that!
7:28:36 PMDennis_Kelley yes the priest speech!
7:30:06 PMsparklyballs for some reason i was comparing marriage to olives and got as far as was if all else fails you can drown it in a martini
7:30:21 PMDennis_Kelley SashaD-G6: The Impressive Clergyman: Mawage. Mawage is wot bwings us togeder tooday. Mawage, that bwessed awangment, that dweam wifin a dweam… And wuv, tru wuv, will fowow you foweva… So tweasure your wuv.
7:31:41 PMSashaD-G6 Yes!!!!!!
7:31:58 PMDooley Hey RobbieF you will never guess what else is going on?
7:33:17 PMDennis_Kelley robbie so wants to just build this himself!
7:33:39 PMDennis_Kelley kind of giddy!
7:36:01 PMSolbu And frozen.
7:36:53 PMM1k3_0 reloading but nothing yet
7:37:03 PMDennis_Kelley no sound
7:37:10 PMsparklyballs and back
7:37:20 PMM1k3_0 yes
7:38:11 PMDennis_Kelley ok reloaded with sound !
7:38:31 PMDennis_Kelley it is cool!
7:38:49 PMDennis_Kelley Robbie hand disappeared!
7:38:56 PMM1k3_0 Man.... starting to drool again. Time to put the bib on.
7:42:58 PMDennis_Kelley that was funny! Robbie just did it, SashaD-G6 had issues!
7:46:47 PMDennis_Kelley maybe SashaD-G6 needs to stand on her head!
7:48:01 PMDennis_Kelley looks like Dooley is having issue also!
7:50:20 PMdooley_da_vulcan hello
7:50:50 PMDennis_Kelley Linux for the Win!
7:51:02 PMGarbee[m] SashaD-G6: Why is your nick not updated to SashaR6-G6 yet?
7:53:19 PMDennis_Kelley SashaD-G6: is your family in newfoundland?
7:54:30 PMSashaD-G6 Dave's is :)
7:56:32 PMDennis_Kelley Cool! My wife was wondering. she watched the show with me tonight
7:56:41 PMdooley_da_vulcan is robbie around?
7:57:26 PMdooley_da_vulcan Hi SashaD-G6
7:58:05 PMdooley_da_vulcan Robbie Helped last week with a gnarly trojan on my bosses machine.
7:58:35 PMdooley_da_vulcan inform him of the situation
7:58:39 PMBobK54 Ohio Linux Fest in Columbus Ohio on 29 and 30 September is anyone is interested
8:04:20 PMdooley_da_vulcan hey is anyone here?
8:04:37 PMSolbu Yes, stream died thou.
8:05:14 PMdooley_da_vulcan hey, you remember the troubles last week?
8:06:06 PMdooley_da_vulcan friday afternoon specifically
8:06:07 PMGarbee[m] Refresh to get the stream back.
8:06:41 PMSolbu dooley_da_vulcan: I do rememer that. :-)
8:09:50 PMGarbee[m] Bye!
8:10:08 PMGarbee[m] Enjoy the bike ride SashaD-G6.
8:10:14 PMBobK54 night all !! fun to watch the build. I need to do that soon too
8:11:17 PMSashaD-G6 Thank you so much for your support eveyone! :) see you next week!!!
8:11:58 PMdooley_da_vulcan take a listen to this. after installing esets and getting a clean scan on both machines. his email password came back incorrect. he logged into his service, changed it again. logged in and it was fine. waited an hour and tried again and it was invalid again. he done this over a few hours with repeated results.
8:12:23 PMdooley_da_vulcan that tells me it is not a keylogger on his machine, so the only possible is at the source....godaddy
8:12:35 PMGarbee[m] ugh.
8:12:39 PMGarbee[m] Godaddy is awful.
8:12:52 PMGarbee[m] Just moved someone off of their crap the other day. Terrible experience.
8:13:23 PMdooley_da_vulcan all reviews I found was at best bad and downhill from there
8:13:27 PMGarbee[m] They added 3 hours to a simple task. Then blamed it on ICANN "regulation changes" which were simply not true. Yes, the rules changed but not how GoDaddy has interpreted them.
8:13:42 PMGarbee[m] They made the rules changes so the company can now be more strict and difficult to get away from.
8:14:08 PMGarbee[m] when the actual rule changes don't state anything remotely close to what they say for reality.
8:14:37 PMGarbee[m] Just move them off ASAP.
8:14:53 PMdooley_da_vulcan read one that stated they thought they were using black hacking to funnel customers to more services. their rep tried selling a SSL certification that would not stop a keylogger
8:15:12 PMGarbee[m] GoDaddy is the absolute worst of all hosts. Only alive due to people stuck in their ways and massive advertising. Then from those two all the scams they pull on their own customers.
8:15:21 PMGarbee[m] Yup.
8:15:50 PMGarbee[m] The person I moved off was sold on some $200 (for two years) "Security Package". Which basically, is all the security shit a host should do anyways.
8:16:15 PMGarbee[m] Oh, and they don't give you any pro-rated refund after 30 days. Once you're past that, all that money is gone.
8:16:16 PMdooley_da_vulcan I showed my boss that they offer free ssl cert
8:16:17 PMdooley_da_vulcan on dreamhost
8:16:19 PMGarbee[m] Even if you move out a day late.
8:16:35 PMGarbee[m] So, they are doing a chargeback on it to try and get the credit company to make things right.
8:16:47 PMGarbee[m] Yea, I think Dreamhost is moved onto Let's Encrypt now.
8:16:54 PMdooley_da_vulcan my son who is a network manager said he would hope they would not be hacking peoples email just to push other services.
8:17:11 PMGarbee[m] A few companies are doing it, even though some still charge a few dollars for the automatic updating part (which is trivial, but what the hell.)
8:17:37 PMGarbee[m] $3 a month for an LE cert is way better than even the $7 per month bulk Semantic or Comodo certs they were handing out.
8:17:48 PMGarbee[m] They're not doing that.
8:18:11 PMGarbee[m] But, they do have lackluster security measures everywhere and make customers pay for them to try and do their job.
8:18:26 PMdooley_da_vulcan I think ssl encryption is better for the host co rather than the customers. it prevents or helps to prevent their servers from getting infected...am I not correct on that thought?
8:18:31 PMGarbee[m] If Satan had a child it would be named GoDaddy.
8:18:44 PMGarbee[m] You are absolutely incorrect there.
8:18:52 PMGarbee[m] It does not a single thing to prevent infection.
8:18:58 PMGarbee[m] It is for the customer's gain alone.
8:19:28 PMGarbee[m] As it is the TLS Cert that shows the server hosting the content is coming from the controller of the Domain and isn't tampered with (within reason) along the way to you.
8:20:04 PMGarbee[m] Hosting providers get nothing out of you having a certificate except the headace to manage them and keep them updated.
8:20:34 PMdooley_da_vulcan I mean if your data is going back and forth from your host to destination and gets stopped along the way and infected and sent on, can it not get the person on the other end along withthe hosting site. vs being encrypted and making it more difficult to get to either end?
8:20:56 PMGarbee[m] If you're that stupid, the TLS cert isn't helping you.
8:21:17 PMGarbee[m] Never execute commands directly from clients.
8:21:56 PMGarbee[m] That's just the first thing any bottom feeding web dev is taught.
8:22:12 PMGarbee[m] And if you are executing commands like that directly from clients, it doesn't matter whether a TLS cert is there or not.
8:22:32 PMGarbee[m] Who says the person with a TLS Connection isn't opening developer tools (or their terminal) to specifically attack you?
8:22:47 PMdooley_da_vulcan but does it give a certain level of mental ease to at least hope the encrypted data streams have not been jacked with going back and forth, thus the hosting location has less chance of infection from an SSL connection than a no ssl stream?
8:23:23 PMGarbee[m] No.
8:23:33 PMGarbee[m] If you have mental ease from that, don't do security.
8:23:47 PMGarbee[m] TRUST NO ONE
8:23:54 PMGarbee[m] Best advice ever.
8:23:58 PMGarbee[m] In terms of security.
8:24:05 PMdooley_da_vulcan I am just now self teaching and watching some hacking videos and instructional videos on wireshark. just wanting to be able to investigate stuff a bit better than I can now
8:24:43 PMdooley_da_vulcan so are any antivirus co out here that you know of on par with esets?
8:24:50 PMGarbee[m] TLS is purely about protecting the client connection to the server itself to help prevent spying eyes and middle-man modifications.
8:24:54 PMGarbee[m] nothing else.

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BobK54
Dennis_Kelley
Dooley
Garbee[m]
Guest_4387
HenryBB
M1k3_0
SashaD-G6
Solbu
dooley_da_vulcan
sparklyballs