6:59:54 PM | TheFu | Hey!
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7:00:05 PM | TheFu | Kodi addon is failing for me.
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7:00:07 PM | M1k3_0 | Hi there!
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7:00:53 PM | M1k3_0 | I gave up on Kodi. Could not get it working on any platform
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7:01:01 PM | M1k3_0 | at least for cat5
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7:01:18 PM | TheFu | It has been working the last 4 months for me.
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7:01:44 PM | M1k3_0 | I read instructions well.... still I could not :(
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7:02:10 PM | TheFu | Looks like almost every addon I have installed has an update today.
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7:02:18 PM | TheFu | But not the CAT5 one.
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7:03:17 PM | TheFu | None of those updates are going in either .... looks like I've got to bite the upgrade bullet and have some pain
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7:03:38 PM | SashaD-G6 | We are almost there.... Ive given Robbie a keying challenge with my outfit of choice today :)
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7:04:39 PM | M1k3_0 | Yeah your dress is kinda see through
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7:04:41 PM | TheFu | Ah .., looks like a DNS issue on my LAN. I swapped in a new router yesterday and hven't rebooted a few systems.
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7:04:55 PM | M1k3_0 | that makes sense
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7:05:03 PM | TheFu | See through?
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7:05:37 PM | M1k3_0 | I know
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7:05:41 PM | M1k3_0 | lol
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7:06:22 PM | SashaD-G6 | I'm borrowing a shirt to move things along!!
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7:06:24 PM | M1k3_0 | I was typing and talking to my daughter at the same time. I can't chew gum and walk
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7:06:45 PM | Lyndon | nope
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7:06:56 PM | Lyndon | kinda
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7:07:14 PM | Lyndon | works good enough
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7:09:02 PM | Lyndon | Robbie works so hard
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7:09:25 PM | Solbu | He pointed at me!
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7:09:26 PM | Lyndon | so do you =)
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7:11:01 PM | Lyndon | website looks awesome
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7:11:17 PM | napa_polarbear | good
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7:11:28 PM | Lyndon | yeeees
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7:11:30 PM | M1k3_0 | website has new pic
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7:11:30 PM | DBLK | Did Dave catch on last week?
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7:11:44 PM | Lyndon | yes
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7:11:45 PM | Lyndon | yes
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7:11:46 PM | M1k3_0 | all good
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7:12:51 PM | Lyndon | always wedesdays
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7:13:19 PM | Lyndon | Wednesdays. thats how you spell it
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7:13:47 PM | M1k3_0 | I seem to have a spelling problem today as well
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7:14:21 PM | Lyndon | cool
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7:15:08 PM | Lyndon | i always have spelling problems
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7:15:23 PM | Lyndon | my wife is my dictionary
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7:16:35 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Hello All
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7:17:59 PM | Lyndon | god
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7:18:02 PM | Lyndon | good
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7:18:40 PM | Lyndon | you both look great
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7:19:34 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | SashaD-G6: Your new pc looks like a creature from Aliens
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7:20:37 PM | Lyndon | right after getting married....
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7:21:31 PM | Lyndon | he still doesnt know anything about the pc though
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7:21:42 PM | Lyndon | so still a surprise right?
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7:21:52 PM | TheFu | Just buy a raspberry-pi for Dave and hand it to him first.
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7:22:00 PM | Lyndon | hahaha
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7:22:16 PM | Lyndon | oh... coool...
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7:22:20 PM | M1k3_0 | Like that idea!
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7:22:31 PM | Lyndon | =O
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7:22:32 PM | TheFu | Robbie - don't touch anything.
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7:22:40 PM | TheFu | Let SashaR do it!
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7:23:30 PM | Lyndon | mother board shoud com with.. thats weird
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7:23:33 PM | TheFu | My LUG does installfests every year. We have 1 rule. The 'helpers' don't touch the keyboard or mouse. PERIOD. The owner gets to type everything - so they learn,
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7:25:13 PM | Lyndon | what...
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7:26:01 PM | Lyndon | I will build my PC with my 10lb screwdriver.. Mwahahaha
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7:26:21 PM | TheFu | Screw drivers are either philips or flat. Does it fit? Use it.
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7:26:29 PM | Lyndon | yes
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7:26:34 PM | Lyndon | i concer
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7:27:41 PM | Lyndon | we have been talking about you C128D
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7:27:58 PM | C128D | The Thermal Compound that was included with the CPU Heatsink is just as good as the AS5 and will last for several years.
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7:28:34 PM | TheFu | I've never had any issue with any thermal compound over the decades. But I don't overclock.
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7:28:37 PM | C128D | I know Lyndon. I heard Robbie
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7:29:19 PM | TheFu | I always put RAM, CPU, Cooler on the MB **before** putting it into a case.
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7:29:30 PM | Lyndon | as long as you apply it right and you have a good cooler, you should be just fine
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7:30:00 PM | Lyndon | not rocket science
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7:30:18 PM | TheFu | Definitely not. - Rocket scientist here. ;)
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7:30:19 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | @RobbieF and whomever else may have input: I was just sitting here ans watching my tv where the show is on and a page popped up saying something about youtube and HD but was not youtube URL I'm using Linux
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7:30:26 PM | C128D | So do I TheFu. I also test run it before I put it in the case to make sure it actually works, especially with Asus boards. Plus the Heatsink makes a nice handhold for mounting the motherboard.
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7:30:48 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | this page was on laptop
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7:30:57 PM | Lyndon | play games...
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7:31:00 PM | TheFu | I haven't used Asus since the 1990s when they refused an RMA.
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7:31:52 PM | TheFu | So .... she's planning to run Linux on this gaming rig? What happens to the $500 in games Dave already bought?
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7:32:17 PM | Lyndon | mis fire
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7:32:19 PM | C128D | That;s one of the reasons I stopped using Asus boards as well TheFu.
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7:32:35 PM | Lyndon | dont slip off and scratch the MOBO
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7:33:14 PM | TheFu | Fantastic top-of-head views!
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7:34:25 PM | Lyndon | im definitely watching this after post production
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7:35:16 PM | C128D | Lyndon, I would but I get too stressed out watching people make this many mistakes building PCs.
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7:35:51 PM | TheFu | Whatever works.
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7:35:55 PM | C128D | No it isn't Robbie. Both of them are pretty much crap.
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7:36:59 PM | TheFu | C128D: If you use a screwdriver once every 6 months, anything more than a $2 screwdriver is overkill.
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7:37:38 PM | C128D | Not true TheFu. ANYTIME you use a tool you need to use the RIGHT tool.
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7:37:42 PM | TheFu | OTOH, if you do it for a living or a few times a week - spending the money for something that fit the screws, your hands, etc.
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7:37:58 PM | Lyndon | good grief thats allot of memory
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7:38:02 PM | TheFu | C128D: Nope. There is a price consideration - always.
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7:38:27 PM | TheFu | IMHO.
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7:38:31 PM | C128D | The proper screwdriver would cost less than $5, so cost isn't an issue.
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7:38:39 PM | alpeck | a screw driver is not rocket science
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7:38:58 PM | Lyndon | should be 1st and 3rd
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7:39:00 PM | TheFu | alpeck: unless you are working on a rocket.
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7:39:01 PM | C128D | Especially when it puts a computer this expensive at risk.
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7:39:27 PM | alpeck | well then your talking several thousands of dollars then
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7:39:28 PM | Lyndon | dual channel
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7:39:29 PM | TheFu | C128D: But they are using Canadian dolares ...
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7:39:58 PM | M1k3_0 | hahahaha OMG
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7:40:04 PM | alpeck | true a million canadian is worth about 20 dollars us
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7:40:23 PM | C128D | And also when you are doing a tutorial to teach others. And Canadian dollars wouldn't make it cost that much more.
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7:40:25 PM | Lyndon | lick it first
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7:40:34 PM | Lyndon | for luck
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7:40:56 PM | TheFu | Lyndon: I only do that with my bullets.
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7:41:02 PM | Lyndon | lol
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7:41:47 PM | alpeck | where did you go for your honeymoon Sasha???
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7:41:59 PM | Lyndon | i was talking about the ram stick
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7:42:51 PM | TheFu | Helps with cooling.
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7:42:56 PM | SashaD-G6 | We will go to Jamaica :)
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7:42:59 PM | Lyndon | yeah!
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7:43:32 PM | TheFu | SashaD-G6: Make sure they have power.
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7:43:40 PM | Lyndon | so cpu next?
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7:44:08 PM | Lyndon | i didnt
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7:44:14 PM | Lyndon | but i will
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7:44:20 PM | Lyndon | cooler
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7:44:23 PM | alpeck | nice to see you using the green screen again
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7:44:29 PM | Lyndon | cool... haha
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7:44:53 PM | alpeck | this is the longest build i have ever seen
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7:44:57 PM | Lyndon | the wires are a little teadious
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7:45:05 PM | TheFu | What about all the LED connections?
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7:45:11 PM | TheFu | 2wks ago?
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7:45:40 PM | TheFu | alpeck: Usually take about 30-45 min ... but I'm not explaining or videoing.
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7:46:03 PM | Lyndon | hyper T2?
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7:46:08 PM | TheFu | And usually have some blood from inside the case cuts.
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7:46:11 PM | alpeck | I wouldn't be able to wait and would have to disassemble before each show
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7:46:15 PM | Lyndon | 212 evo
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7:46:17 PM | Lyndon | ?
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7:46:31 PM | Lyndon | no not 212 evo
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7:46:32 PM | C128D | Nope alpeck. It's some cheapo thermaltake unit.
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7:46:38 PM | Lyndon | oh
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7:46:58 PM | Lyndon | i'm sure in will do the job
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7:48:26 PM | Lyndon | by everybody. i have to run. keep it real
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7:52:45 PM | JoeInNH | Hello. I can't watch because my android tablet doesn't have flash, but I cannot chat.
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7:53:15 PM | JoeInNH | I can chat that is...
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7:53:24 PM | TheFu | Which is why connecting all of this on the MB OUTSIDE the case is so much nicer.
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7:53:46 PM | C128D | Got that right TheFu.
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7:54:05 PM | TheFu | I did it the hard way for about 8 yrs.
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7:54:24 PM | alpeck | with aftermarket heatsinks they very often cover mobo screws
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7:54:38 PM | C128D | Also reading the instructions that came with cooler also helps as it covers the problem he is having.
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7:55:16 PM | TheFu | I've been specifically buying CPUs that come with coolers for a long time.
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7:55:32 PM | alpeck | sucking versus blowing...any thoughts C128D
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7:55:45 PM | TheFu | I like both.
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7:56:05 PM | alpeck | my mistake...it is till blowing
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7:56:17 PM | C128D | alpack, not this type of heatsink. I prefer pulling as you don't need to remove the fan to clean the fines. It's only 1 to 2C difference.
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7:56:46 PM | alpeck | good point C128D
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7:57:50 PM | C128D | I've learned a thing or three building and repairing computers over the past 40 years.m
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7:58:39 PM | TheFu | I can hear the noise from here seeing all those fans.
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7:59:30 PM | C128D | TheFu more fans normally results in less noise as they don't have to spin as fast to provide appropriate cooling.
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8:00:08 PM | alpeck | i find that modern computers are much more efficient then they were say about 10 years ago
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8:00:18 PM | C128D | I have 12 fans in my main system and you can't hear any of them.
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8:00:21 PM | TheFu | Even 5 yrs ago.
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8:00:49 PM | TheFu | My main system is fanless.
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8:01:14 PM | TheFu | The noisy systems are in a room away from people.
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8:02:01 PM | alpeck | i have modified molex connector on my system so i can run fans on 5V rail
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8:02:04 PM | C128D | They should have installed the PSU, hooked up it's power cables (except the graphics card), connected the sata cables, front panel cables, etc. before putting the Graphics Card in. Makes things a LOT easier.
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8:02:34 PM | TheFu | Or just used the onboard GPU and been happy.
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8:02:57 PM | C128D | No you don't Sasha. You need someone a LOT more qualified than he is to do it right.
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8:03:42 PM | C128D | TheFU, onboard graphics wouldn't allow them to play any games more demanding than Solitaire.
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8:04:10 PM | TheFu | C128D: You can play any game - just with reduced graphics.
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8:04:31 PM | C128D | Not true TheFu. Not at a playable framerate.
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8:04:52 PM | TheFu | C128D: that is a matter of opinion.
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8:05:14 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | and some games require certain sets of cards
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8:05:20 PM | C128D | No, that's a fact. 8 frames per second with stuttering galore isn't playable.
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8:05:23 PM | TheFu | But I won't disagree that new games (since 2000) have higher GPU requirements.
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8:06:11 PM | C128D | TheFu, she isn't building this rig to play twenty year old games. She has her RetroPi for that. This is for more modern games.
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8:06:14 PM | TheFu | All my games completely rock with onboard graphics.
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8:07:38 PM | C128D | You will still be able to do a 32bit NetInstall for 17.10. Pope already stated that.
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8:08:09 PM | alpeck | it was hard to get 64-bit drivers
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8:08:14 PM | TheFu | I use a 32-bit kernel on my main desktop.
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8:08:42 PM | TheFu | pointers are halve the size - on memory limited systems, no reason to have 64-bit.
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8:08:52 PM | TheFu | s/halve/half/
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8:09:09 PM | TheFu | Also, for the LX800 CPUs used in old routers, 32-bit is it.
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8:09:57 PM | TheFu | Or just use lubuntu for the install to begin.
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8:10:00 PM | alpeck | just have a seat on the stage behind you RobbieF
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8:11:00 PM | TheFu | Dillo FTW!
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8:11:32 PM | TheFu | It solves all sorts of issues - no javascript.
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8:11:47 PM | C128D | Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Ububntu Mate, Linus Lite, Mint, and a host of others will still be releasing new 32bit ISOs for the forseable future. It's only Ubuntu Proper that won't. Kubuntu hasn't made the announcement one way or the other yet that I have seen.
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8:12:39 PM | C128D | Internet Exploder IS still supported.
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8:12:53 PM | C128D | Only version 11 though.
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8:13:29 PM | Gopher2 | And IE is in Windows 10
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8:13:34 PM | TheFu | We are Linux people. IE - just doesn't matter.
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8:13:55 PM | C128D | They even released a security update for IE11 in September of this year.
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8:15:03 PM | TheFu | I stopped patching my remaining Windows systems when MSFT decided to change the ToS. Much easier to just remove the networking and keep using them as is.
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8:15:43 PM | C128D | TheFu, not all of us are. I use Windows 90% of the time as there are no Linux alternatives to the software I need to use and it can't run under WINE or in VMs.
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8:16:46 PM | TheFu | I only need Windows for video editing. Tht doesn't need network access. Completely understand that some people are stuck. At a prior job, my boss begged me for a way to replace Windows on 22K laptops. I couldn't.
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8:17:30 PM | alpeck | powered by spinning Tasmanian devil name tas
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8:17:39 PM | Gopher2 | I am thinking a mobile vacuum cleaner service truck which was a thing before you could buy a vacuum cleaner for your home.
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8:17:57 PM | TheFu | This story convinces me that Dyson stuff is entirely too expensive.
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8:18:13 PM | C128D | The Dyson vacuum was bad enough. One of the worst vacuums ever built. I can't imagine them making a working automobile.
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8:18:26 PM | alpeck | just started their free fall
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8:18:58 PM | C128D | Wrong URL Sasha
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8:19:58 PM | TheFu | Free your credit - use the snail-mail forms. Send them to the big 3 with a check.
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8:20:06 PM | TheFu | s/free/freeze/
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8:22:02 PM | C128D | https://www.equifaxsecurity2017.com is the correct URL.
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8:22:28 PM | TheFu | did they do the intros?
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8:22:38 PM | TheFu | I was late.
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8:22:44 PM | C128D | Sashas reminded him TheFu
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8:23:51 PM | TheFu | http://clark.com/personal-finance-credit/sample-letter-request-credit-freeze/ - clark howard is a reputable "consumer action" guy here.
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8:27:04 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Good Night Robbie, Have a good weekend
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