6:58:01 PM | RobbieF | Oh yes
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6:58:38 PM | benrob0329 | Solbu: thats understandable then
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6:58:46 PM | Garbee[m] | SashaR: It's 4k enough.
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6:59:08 PM | Garbee[m] | SashaR: Nope.
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6:59:11 PM | Garbee[m] | All good there.
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6:59:28 PM | Garbee[m] | Plus why should anyone look at your glasses when you always have the lovely smile on?
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7:00:11 PM | TheFu | Up-greyddddd?
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7:01:16 PM | Solbu | Lets use the first take. ;-)
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7:03:19 PM | alpeck | still have some dinner on your lapel RobbieF
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7:03:36 PM | alpeck | 4k is great isn't it
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7:05:38 PM | TheFu | CRM?
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7:07:28 PM | alpeck | hope this comes with a pay raise RobbieF
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7:08:00 PM | Solbu | So, is RobbieF automating himself out of a job, soon? :-)
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7:08:18 PM | TheFu | Robbie - don't give your button pushing job away.
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7:12:10 PM | GWG | I keep trying to replace the people in my office with robots, but so far no luck
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7:12:30 PM | TheFu | 0%
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7:12:55 PM | alpeck | My job is secure...I wish AI could do my paper work but it can't
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7:13:06 PM | TheFu | I always try to train my replacement, so I can do more interesting work.
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7:13:52 PM | Berzerkula | I'd be a load balancer with two clones and I'd divy up the work
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7:14:17 PM | alpeck | I always try to train my customer so they can help them selfs
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7:14:35 PM | TheFu | Windows .... cough, cough, cough.
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7:15:31 PM | Solbu | «Noo!» .. hehe.
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7:16:11 PM | Berzerkula | Windows demands a shrubbery!
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7:20:46 PM | dennis_kelley | Robbie is there a phone number to call into the show?
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7:20:51 PM | TheFu | Hey Jeff - use a VPN. No need for a plex account at all.
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7:21:13 PM | TheFu | Streaming via VPN works with Plex too.
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7:21:21 PM | TheFu | No plex account needed.
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7:21:40 PM | Agamotto | Hallo, all... is something going on with FreeNode? I can't get in using HexChat
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7:22:42 PM | TheFu | How well does the r-pi v3 transcode for different client devices?
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7:23:30 PM | TheFu | Free != F/LOSS
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7:24:42 PM | Agamotto | I wonder if Mythbuntu would be considered unknown these days?
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7:25:39 PM | ABQTKY | My Mythbuntu machine is now on 17.10 - seems just fine...so far: Agamotto
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7:25:44 PM | Garbee[m] | Hack for what on Google Music?
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7:25:46 PM | Agamotto | Google scares a lot of people anymore
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7:25:53 PM | Garbee[m] | I had to listen to something. Missed that part of the conversation.
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7:25:59 PM | GWG | I'm still annoyed that Amazon Cloud Music is dead
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7:26:25 PM | Garbee[m] | Oh, get plex to play it.
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7:26:30 PM | Garbee[m] | Yea, nope.
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7:26:31 PM | TheFu | Live by the cloud, die by the cloud.
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7:26:41 PM | Agamotto | ABQTKY: I wound up giving up on DVR stuff, as I don't watch/record enough to keep me interested. I bought a ChannelMaster DVR+... suits my simple needs.
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7:26:58 PM | Garbee[m] | They fixed the encryption system of the music stream.
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7:27:03 PM | Agamotto | GWG: Agreed... One of the few linux-friendly services
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7:27:07 PM | Garbee[m] | RobbieF: They can't.
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7:27:10 PM | TheFu | s/fixed/broke/
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7:27:15 PM | Garbee[m] | It's the Encrypted Media Extension stuff.
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7:27:15 PM | TheFu | fixed that for you Garbee
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7:27:36 PM | Garbee[m] | TheFu: it is a fix based on their legal requirements to continue to have the music to provide to customers.
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7:27:50 PM | TheFu | Live by the cloud, die by the cloud.
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7:27:51 PM | Garbee[m] | It's all music industry lawyers causing it.
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7:28:43 PM | dennis_kelley | is the show on yet
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7:28:50 PM | Garbee[m] | dennis_kelley: Yup.
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7:28:59 PM | Agamotto | If only Ogg Vorbis would just take over... or FLAC
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7:29:00 PM | Garbee[m] | About halfway through.
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7:29:03 PM | SashaR | :) it sure is
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7:29:04 PM | TheFu | Garbee[m]: I don't have those issues with my ripped audio CDs or cassettes.
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7:29:11 PM | Garbee[m] | Agamotto: FLAC is now in Edge!
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7:29:17 PM | Garbee[m] | But that wont' help this problem.
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7:29:28 PM | Garbee[m] | MP3 is now open and free without patent licenses.
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7:29:34 PM | Garbee[m] | And that doesn't help.
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7:29:54 PM | Garbee[m] | This is all about the actual stream being encrypted.
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7:30:26 PM | Agamotto | Ahh
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7:30:35 PM | TheFu | I can listen to my audio files through plex from anywhere in the world.
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7:31:02 PM | TheFu | Or stream local videos.
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7:31:46 PM | Agamotto | I am just happy that my brother has been declared free of cancer, and today they took out his chemo 'port.' He can now go back to working full-time.
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7:31:58 PM | SashaR | CONGRATULATIONS
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7:32:11 PM | JeffWeston | thats amazing Agamotto. Congrats
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7:32:12 PM | SashaR | That is such a great news story :):)
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7:32:48 PM | ABQTKY | Agamotto, great news!
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7:32:51 PM | Agamotto | Very happy family this year
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7:33:01 PM | SashaR | No doubt!!!
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7:34:02 PM | TheFu | Healthy family is always a blessing.
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7:34:33 PM | Agamotto | I am still catching up with November.. now that things are settling down, I should be able to catch up soon. Especially since there isn't much left to watch on TV anymore!
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7:35:01 PM | TheFu | Robbie - your sweater seems brighter this week.
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7:35:14 PM | dennis_kelley | SashaR do you know if the phone number to call in is still working? If it is what's the number
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7:35:25 PM | Agamotto | Very sexy - iz nize....
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7:35:34 PM | SashaR | I think now it's just Skype... would you like to call in?
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7:36:04 PM | dennis_kelley | Yes SashaR
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7:36:08 PM | Agamotto | Don't have anything like that setup, but thanks for the offer.
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7:36:16 PM | GWG | SashaR: I''ve been here all these years and you never invited me to call in
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7:36:36 PM | dennis_kelley | I got connections
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7:36:40 PM | SashaR | :):)
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7:36:49 PM | SashaR | I finally had a chance to ask :)
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7:38:10 PM | RobbieF | all having fun?!
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7:38:29 PM | Solbu | Maybe the entire cat5 team is A.I. and CGI. ;-)
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7:38:33 PM | GWG | RobbieF: I wish I was. It's been hard
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7:38:49 PM | alpeck | remember maxheadroom
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7:38:51 PM | Agamotto | Don't jinkx the stack!!!!
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7:39:07 PM | Garbee[m] | RobbieF: Joke of the Week is a great show idea.
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7:39:11 PM | Garbee[m] | She can start with how bald you are.
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7:39:12 PM | Garbee[m] | ;)
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7:39:18 PM | RobbieF | that's not funny Garbee[m]
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7:39:23 PM | RobbieF | :p
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7:39:28 PM | Agamotto | GWG: What's going on?
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7:39:33 PM | Garbee[m] | Really? I'm laughing. Not much mind you, but it's something.
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7:39:49 PM | RobbieF | "Robbie's a bald nerd. Oh, wait a minute."
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7:40:10 PM | Garbee[m] | "That's literally his blog's name."
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7:40:16 PM | RobbieF | Yup
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7:40:19 PM | RobbieF | and his dot-com
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7:40:28 PM | RobbieF | https://baldnerd.com/
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7:40:49 PM | Agamotto | Still weird
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7:41:38 PM | TheFu | Plex is closed source too, right?
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7:42:31 PM | TheFu | All software is dependent on humans not to make mistakes. OS doesn't matter.
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7:42:41 PM | alpeck | Free is not really free.
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7:42:56 PM | Solbu | TheFu: It's a mix. Plex is 90% GPL, and the rest proprietary.
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7:43:39 PM | Agamotto | So far, I have only been able to trust KeepassX
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7:43:47 PM | Solbu | TheFu: Plex forked from XBMC/Kodi, so the base code will always be free. THe closed parts are what makes them different from Kodi.
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7:44:16 PM | TheFu | I use KeePassX too, but it isn't perfect. Using normal system tools, if the DB is unlocked, all the passwords can be read from RAM.
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7:44:29 PM | Garbee[m] | "My advice to you is get married: if you find a good wife you'll be happy; if not, you'll become a philosopher." -- Socrates
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7:44:31 PM | TheFu | I use Plex AND Kodi. They are VERY, VERY, different.
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7:44:37 PM | Garbee[m] | Good quote there.
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7:44:48 PM | RobbieF | Yeah, we LOVE plex for our home video library
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7:45:05 PM | Agamotto | TheFu: True, but if I need that level of paranoid...
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7:45:20 PM | RobbieF | anyone watching on YouTube or Facebook Live?
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7:45:45 PM | Agamotto | I am sort-of watching through Youtube...
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7:45:46 PM | Solbu | A new security test just came into existence. «Is it Jeff proof?»
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7:45:51 PM | Solbu | :-)
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7:45:54 PM | RobbieF | cool agamotto
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7:46:01 PM | JeffWeston | haha Solbu
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7:46:04 PM | RobbieF | haha solbu
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7:46:05 PM | RobbieF | woh
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7:46:09 PM | RobbieF | coke jeff, a coke
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7:46:33 PM | RobbieF | how's the video quality in comparison to previous weeks?
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7:46:52 PM | TheFu | Sasha isn't fuzzy. ;)
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7:46:53 PM | Agamotto | Anyone have an idea why Hexchat wouldn't be able to get into FreeNode? Tried to join earlier, but HexChat kept 'loading' w/o getting into channel
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7:47:12 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: On Kodi it's excellent.
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7:47:28 PM | Agamotto | Video quality is good on my end... but my connection is now 20x faster than it was back in October.
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7:47:30 PM | Garbee[m] | RobbieF: I'm on YouTube live.
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7:47:46 PM | Garbee[m] | Quality is just as good as last week here.
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7:47:48 PM | BillM | Looking quite sharp to me. Oh wait, could be my new glasses.
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7:48:07 PM | Agamotto | It moves around, squealing a tone at them?
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7:48:40 PM | Agamotto | Ok, but on the other side, how many businesses would you willingly enter if you had to start stepping over people to get to the doors?
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7:49:18 PM | alpeck | I wouldn't have a problem with robots as long as it is on private property
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7:49:49 PM | BillM | We need John Conner!!
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7:50:39 PM | TheFu | Has JEff ever been to SF?
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7:50:46 PM | JeffWeston | nope
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7:50:48 PM | RobbieF | apparently not
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7:50:52 PM | RobbieF | he thinks people don't walk there
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7:51:13 PM | RobbieF | thefu is she usually fuzzy?
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7:51:25 PM | Agamotto | Yes, now we can have Internet service like Portugual, and have mobile prices like Canada!
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7:51:36 PM | RobbieF | cheers Garbee[m]
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7:51:43 PM | TheFu | To me, yes. I downsample to 720p, and throw that on the projector.
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7:53:07 PM | Agamotto | JeffWeston: Already happening in the mobile services
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7:53:25 PM | TheFu | Will Comcast (NBC) start blocking access to ABC.com?
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7:53:45 PM | TheFu | Or slow that content down to 1Mbps or less?
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7:54:20 PM | TheFu | RobbieF: But there are only 2 real ISPs in the USA.
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7:54:33 PM | TheFu | The phone company and the cable TV company.
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7:54:58 PM | BillM | Switching ISPs is not an option in some areas.
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7:55:00 PM | Solbu | TheFu: And in a lot of the rural areas and small cities there s only 1 ISP.
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7:55:28 PM | Agamotto | AT&T certainly throttled things on their DSL connections... one of the biggest reasons I left.
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7:55:32 PM | TheFu | Solbu: 1 "broadband" ISP, but they can use dial up. One of my sister's still uses dialup.
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7:55:49 PM | TheFu | She doesn't have even slow DSL available.
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7:56:13 PM | TheFu | OTOH, I can get GigE service for $499/month here. I'm so excited!
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7:56:36 PM | BillM | Actually I can switch to satellite and increase my cost tenfold.
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7:57:21 PM | TheFu | I'm playing devils advocate. I doubt most people will see any issues.
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7:57:43 PM | TheFu | Plus, I really want SIP to be treated as higher priority over torrents, FTP, sftp.
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7:58:00 PM | Garbee[m] | Amazon has the money to pay for that.
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7:58:02 PM | alpeck | if an isp doesn't have the infrastructure to go with the flow then they will eventually be out of business
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7:58:23 PM | alpeck | hopefully we will win in the end
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7:58:31 PM | TheFu | GM paid some ISPs 15 yrs ago to cache their online ads.
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7:58:36 PM | bigkitty | yo
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7:58:36 PM | JeffWeston | i agree TheFu. i think any impact will be minimal so as to not cause an obvious complaint issue
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7:58:50 PM | Garbee[m] | I've been seeing Net Neutrality issues for years.
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7:59:09 PM | Garbee[m] | So... Yea, It's there if your paying attention, can figure it out, and your ISP is abusing their place.
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7:59:15 PM | Garbee[m] | And my ISP isn't even a nationally known one.
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7:59:32 PM | BillM | lately when we threaten to switch providers they actually say "Go ahead".
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7:59:37 PM | alpeck | sorry...no internet today because of smog
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7:59:43 PM | JeffWeston | same here
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8:00:39 PM | Garbee[m] | SashaR: I had the same kind of speech problem.
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8:00:45 PM | Garbee[m] | Still happens sometimes.
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8:00:59 PM | Cee_128d | Robbie, switching ISP's in the US is pretty much impossible. In most locations you have the choice of Broadband or glorified Dial Up.
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8:01:56 PM | SashaR | Garbee... I always find explaining it helps to keep from getting embarrased :)
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8:02:05 PM | TheFu | Ubiquiti has sold GHz stuff that reached 200+ Kms.
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8:02:26 PM | Garbee[m] | SashaR: We all have our speech quirks. It's one of the communication constants.
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8:02:33 PM | SashaR | :)
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8:02:41 PM | Cee_128d | By that I mean ONE Broadband provider and maybe one provider up to 1 meg down and 256k up.
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8:03:05 PM | Agamotto | I am waiting for the first 'allergy' to laser activity...
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8:03:44 PM | Agamotto | Ask NASA...
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8:03:47 PM | BillM | SashaR speaking w for r is called rhotacism Kripke on the TV show Big Bang Theory has it.
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8:03:58 PM | TheFu | Used to work over a microwave link. Heavy rain would drop speeds to near zero bps.
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8:04:48 PM | Agamotto | attenuation/interference in atmospheres
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8:04:58 PM | alpeck | keyword...could not normally have it...so weather and pollution will degrade or stop service
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8:05:00 PM | SashaR | of course it is :):)
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8:05:10 PM | TheFu | Speed of light issues matter for all communications connectivity.
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8:05:32 PM | Agamotto | SashaR: I have often called it 'verbal dyslexia'
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8:05:32 PM | Solbu | Forget the moon, we wan't internet om Mars.
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8:06:00 PM | TheFu | Solbu: NASA already has a "deep space" network. It was designed in the mid-1990s.
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8:06:11 PM | TheFu | I think.
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8:07:11 PM | alpeck | or doors
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8:07:19 PM | MovieBuff | https://youtu.be/wqwsaypXh6w
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8:07:25 PM | Garbee[m] | NO!
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8:07:34 PM | Garbee[m] | I will not spend time with my family or make memories.
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8:07:49 PM | TheFu | I was wrong. 1958 for DPN.
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8:07:51 PM | SashaR | hahaha
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8:08:09 PM | Solbu | Computers are like air conditioners. they stop working when you open windows.
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8:08:13 PM | Cee_128d | All of my family will be gone for the holidays.
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8:08:23 PM | alpeck | sorry to hear that Garbee[m]
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8:08:32 PM | BobK54 | Yikes, we haveChristmas with ALL 13 grandkids this year. Good thing I have ear plugs.....
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8:08:50 PM | MovieBuff | Sasha https://youtu.be/wqwsaypXh6w
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8:08:51 PM | TheFu | No kids on Christmas this year. Just old people left now.
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8:09:37 PM | TheFu | Everyone in the family lives in different states.
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8:09:42 PM | alpeck | TheFu: well treasure the old people because they will might not be around next year.
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8:09:59 PM | alpeck | merry christmas
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8:10:04 PM | GWG | I plan on being alone and cleaning my house
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8:10:08 PM | BobK54 | Merry Christmas, night all!
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8:10:10 PM | Agamotto | I might show up on the 3rd... busy working next week
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8:10:11 PM | TheFu | alpeck: I hope to be around.
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8:10:15 PM | SashaR | I agree... I have a cherished video of my dad at Christmas that I watch
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8:10:16 PM | Garbee[m] | Morosis: (n) The stupidest of stupidities.
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8:10:17 PM | Garbee[m] | Best word ever.
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8:10:23 PM | Agamotto | GWG: Sometimes, that works just fine!
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8:10:31 PM | GWG | Agamotto: I don't celebrate Christmas
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8:10:39 PM | GWG | It is more of an inconvenience for me
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8:10:43 PM | TheFu | Festivus!
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8:11:07 PM | GWG | TheFu: Don't celebrate that either
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8:11:12 PM | Solbu | JeffWeston: Hehehe. Good one. :-)
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8:11:19 PM | Agamotto | GWG: Ok, well whatever you plan on doing for fun. I am planning on seeing the new Star Wars movie on Christmas.
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8:11:46 PM | JeffWeston | i see badly want ot see it Solbu
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8:12:05 PM | Cee_128d | Agamotto, I saw that yesterday. Well worth it.
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8:12:20 PM | SashaR | See you next week my darling friends :):)
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8:12:28 PM | TheFu | Back to watching .... The Right Stuff .... from Plex via Kodi using PlexBMC addon. ;)
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8:12:48 PM | Solbu | JeffWeston: I was refering to your response to SashaR saying she's ready, and you said you're jeff. That made me laugh .:-)
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8:13:09 PM | Agamotto | Imagine if his name was Jiff
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8:13:21 PM | JeffWeston | haha Solbu, dad jokes abound with me
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8:14:05 PM | TheFu | Can anyone read lips?
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8:14:08 PM | Solbu | JeffWeston: Besides, it's the small everyday jokes that can make life fun and interesting. :-)
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8:14:16 PM | TheFu | Or should we just make up what they are saying here?
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8:14:52 PM | JeffWeston | absolutely
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8:15:12 PM | JeffWeston | my kids have come to expect them from me
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8:15:20 PM | Solbu | :-)
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8:15:35 PM | Solbu | I try to make some too, for my friends.
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8:15:39 PM | JeffWeston | ok heading hiome
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8:15:42 PM | Solbu | JeffWeston: Have a nice christmas.
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8:15:44 PM | JeffWeston | night
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8:36:43 PM | RobbieF | \o
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