| 6:58:01 PM | TheFu | Kodi just crashed, so I can agree about that.
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| 6:58:06 PM | Solbu | Hehe.
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| 6:58:24 PM | TheFu | Rebooted earlier today.
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| 6:58:35 PM | TheFu | Normally, kodi works for weeks before needing a reboot.
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| 6:58:47 PM | Solbu | Wow, the blue background and Sashas shirt looks really good together.
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| 6:59:22 PM | lichenx1 | sound issue or me?
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| 6:59:33 PM | Solbu | lichenx1: Not turned on yet. :-)
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| 6:59:43 PM | lichenx1 | ahh thx
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| 7:01:18 PM | Solbu | Tjenare, SweSG. :-)
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| 7:01:35 PM | SweSG | Hi
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| 7:01:38 PM | TheFu | Anyone here in a LUG?
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| 7:01:56 PM | Solbu | SweSG: I'm guessing by your ISP you're in sweden.
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| 7:02:07 PM | SweSG | Yep
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| 7:02:17 PM | SweSG | Kan du svenska?
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| 7:02:22 PM | Solbu | SweSG: Hi form Norge.
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| 7:02:27 PM | SweSG | Ok
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| 7:02:48 PM | Solbu | Yes, I know swedish quite well. Most norwegians do.
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| 7:03:00 PM | SweSG | Fint! :P
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| 7:03:07 PM | Solbu | Jeg vet. :-)
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| 7:03:14 PM | TheFu | Do they all talk like the Swedish chefs on the muppets?
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| 7:04:22 PM | Solbu | Oh, haven't seen the muppet show in maybe 30 years. :-)
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| 7:04:45 PM | Solbu | I have sound!
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| 7:04:48 PM | TheFu | They were the best part!
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| 7:05:54 PM | TheFu | Sasha - should be using an IRC client, right?
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| 7:06:12 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: You should teach them to use a prioper client, like HexChat. :-)
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| 7:06:24 PM | SweSG | Irssi
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| 7:06:24 PM | TheFu | I use Thunderbird's chat.
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| 7:06:26 PM | Solbu | Then they only need to set it up once.
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| 7:06:33 PM | SashaD-G6 | Can you see me?
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| 7:06:41 PM | Solbu | SashaD-G6: Yes.
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| 7:06:41 PM | TheFu | Yeppers.
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| 7:06:57 PM | TheFu | Xmas shirt?
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| 7:08:19 PM | TheFu | Solbu: Didn't you help with testing Kodi?
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| 7:08:37 PM | Solbu | TheFu: I implemented the fix. :-)
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| 7:09:00 PM | TheFu | Great!
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| 7:09:02 PM | TheFu | Thanks!
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| 7:09:02 PM | SashaD-G6 | Nope... I just clued in there is no green screen :):)
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| 7:09:34 PM | TheFu | That would ahve been funny with your current shirt. ;)
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| 7:10:07 PM | TheFu | I've got some Sheepdog cluster questions for Robbie!
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| 7:10:54 PM | SashaD-G6 | Send them in!!!!!!
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| 7:11:32 PM | SweSG | Maybe I look good in 240p :P
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| 7:11:53 PM | TheFu | Any VPN exit nodes in those countries?
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| 7:12:15 PM | TheFu | Are any of them connected to a bank? Brokerage account?
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| 7:12:45 PM | TheFu | Change those email passwords ASAP.
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| 7:14:18 PM | TheFu | I've been hacked a few times. 2002 and 1995-ish
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| 7:14:32 PM | Solbu | My email account is only available from home. THe server is in my flat, and pop3/imap is deliberately not available from the internet.
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| 7:14:46 PM | TheFu | Seems fine.
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| 7:15:56 PM | TheFu | Solbu: I host my email at home too, but let imaps and SMTP in. Have an SMTP gateway to deal with all in/out traffic.
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| 7:16:52 PM | Solbu | TheFu: SMTP is open here too, but I can't relay from outside. So I can't send email from anyother location than my flat. But I can receive. :-)
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| 7:17:29 PM | TheFu | I require authenticated SMTPS on 587/tcp for sending email. I'm not the only guy using the server.
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| 7:18:46 PM | TheFu | 25/tcp is allowed from anywhere, provided they get through the blocklists.
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| 7:19:17 PM | lichenx1 | CAT5CEPTION
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| 7:19:26 PM | TheFu | SLS was my first distro. Slackware was an upgrade in usability. ;)
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| 7:19:35 PM | Solbu | Take 258, and ACTION!
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| 7:19:39 PM | lichenx1 | I bought suse in store as a kid
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| 7:19:50 PM | sr_wences | Whoa! Hi folks!
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| 7:19:58 PM | TheFu | sr_wences: Howdy!
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| 7:20:13 PM | sr_wences | I had to connect with HexChat - the link on the websute wasn't loading. Anyoine else having problems?
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| 7:20:26 PM | TheFu | sr_wences: Sasha was.
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| 7:20:29 PM | Guest_6768 | fixed now
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| 7:20:53 PM | SweSG | I like ProtonVPN: https://imgur.com/a/E49jA
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| 7:21:12 PM | sr_wences | Too late, I'm already on with HexChat.
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| 7:22:25 PM | TheFu | Redhat was sold in stores in the 1990s.
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| 7:22:46 PM | TheFu | Computer stores.
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| 7:22:57 PM | lichenx1 | I had suse when I was like 11 or 12 and didn't know wtf I was doing
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| 7:23:03 PM | Guruofthematrix | I used it first, I think it was because of Robby
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| 7:23:12 PM | Solbu | sr_wences: HexChat is the better choice. :-)
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| 7:23:15 PM | sr_wences | I bought SUSE in our local computer store. It was 6 CDs and had 3 printed manuals in it.
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| 7:23:25 PM | lichenx1 | ^^
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| 7:23:43 PM | lichenx1 | big folding thing, like tri fold
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| 7:23:47 PM | TheFu | Walnut Creek 6-Disc Linux ... quarterly releases in the 1990s.
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| 7:23:55 PM | sr_wences | Hey Roberto! Yay! (Muppet arms)
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| 7:24:08 PM | Solbu | SuSE was my first try with Linux. SuSE 5.2. I still have the ISOs on file.
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| 7:24:10 PM | TheFu | sr_wences: Any Swedish hter?
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| 7:24:47 PM | sr_wences | Ack! Youtube bufering!
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| 7:24:48 PM | lichenx1 | steam died
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| 7:24:51 PM | TheFu | Dead.
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| 7:24:57 PM | SashaD-G6 | We will be right back...
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| 7:24:59 PM | BobK54 | its dead jim!
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| 7:25:02 PM | lichenx1 | https://www.suse.com/assets/img/museum/suse-80.jpg sr_wences
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| 7:25:11 PM | sr_wences | Stick a fork in it - show's done!
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| 7:25:12 PM | Nuttypro69 | Thanks for the shout out Robbie
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| 7:25:23 PM | Guest_6768 | user error
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| 7:25:26 PM | Solbu | Stream is back.
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| 7:25:27 PM | TheFu | back.
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| 7:25:35 PM | sr_wences | PEBCAK!
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| 7:26:00 PM | Straeger | Aha! Made the live show for the first time in years!
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| 7:26:08 PM | BobK54 | Freespire was the first distro I used from a USb stick while traveling with my company laptop. finish work, reboot with the stick, do whatever I wanted without "mother" knowing anything. :)
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| 7:27:15 PM | Garbee[m] | RobbieF: Yes you can.
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| 7:27:16 PM | Cee_128d | Lindows/Linspire was not the first Linux Distro to go mainstream in stores. Corel Linux (which included WordPerfect) was available in big box stores two years before the Linspire company even started. RedHat was available in Big Box stores before Corel Linux.
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| 7:27:24 PM | SashaD-G6 | Thanks for your question/comment nuttypro
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| 7:27:38 PM | Garbee[m] | The HTML5 DRM stuff is built into Chrome. So Netflix works.
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| 7:27:58 PM | TheFu | Cee_128d: I remember Corel Linux. Never used it, but remember seeing it.
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| 7:28:00 PM | Garbee[m] | ooh, did they disable the setting by default?
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| 7:28:09 PM | Garbee[m] | That's rude.
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| 7:28:11 PM | sr_wences | Yep. And I think FireFox is going to support that soon as well.
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| 7:28:18 PM | TheFu | Chromium has DRM too?
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| 7:28:40 PM | lichenx1 | what kind of packaging is linspire
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| 7:28:44 PM | Garbee[m] | TheFu: Uh, not sure on that off the top. Let me check. But I don't believe so.
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| 7:29:03 PM | TheFu | I won't have Google-Chrome on my systems. ;(
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| 7:29:04 PM | lichenx1 | looks a lot like windows 7
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| 7:29:07 PM | SweSG | Solbu: Vad är klockan i Norge? Är ni 1 timme före eller efter Sverige? Mitt inatten här :/
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| 7:29:10 PM | Straeger | What's the window manager?
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| 7:29:14 PM | lichenx1 | xfce
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| 7:29:20 PM | Solbu | SweSG: Samme som i sverige. :-)
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| 7:29:27 PM | SweSG | Jaså :D
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| 7:29:30 PM | TheFu | XFCE is the DE ... what's the WM?
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| 7:29:38 PM | TheFu | openbox?
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| 7:29:45 PM | Solbu | SweSG: 01:29:43
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| 7:29:50 PM | sr_wences | Is there room for Linspire in the age of Zorin?
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| 7:30:04 PM | Straeger | Explains the speed. I've been using openbox on my old netbook for the speed and functionality. Also running arch for the same reason.
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| 7:30:18 PM | Garbee[m] | TheFu: So what do you use?
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| 7:30:31 PM | TheFu | openbox or fvwm-crystal
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| 7:30:41 PM | Garbee[m] | For web browsing?
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| 7:30:42 PM | SweSG | Solbu: Samma. Fick för mig att ni låg 1 timme före oss.
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| 7:30:44 PM | Solbu | Now we know RobbieF's password. It's a series of stars. :-)
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| 7:30:49 PM | sr_wences | LOL!
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| 7:31:02 PM | TheFu | Firefox at home, chromium in a firejail --private when out and about.
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| 7:31:21 PM | TheFu | Lynx sometimes
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| 7:31:26 PM | Garbee[m] | Firefox has DRM built in. Encrypted Media Extension standard.
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| 7:31:28 PM | Garbee[m] | ;)
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| 7:31:33 PM | TheFu | dillo if I don't want any extras.
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| 7:31:39 PM | Garbee[m] | Every major browser has it.
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| 7:31:40 PM | lichenx1 | So RobbieF is from Texas, he said Y'all
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| 7:31:45 PM | Nuttypro69 | Robbie check for updates i want thru the same issues
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| 7:31:50 PM | sr_wences | I've sold my soul to Google - they already know all about me - their computers are going to die of boredom.
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| 7:31:56 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Maybe you need to update the index of available packages – update the repo.
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| 7:31:59 PM | TheFu | Never use dillo for HTTPS, however. It ain't safe.
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| 7:32:34 PM | TheFu | sr_wences: I block as much google at the network layer as I can.
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| 7:32:45 PM | lichenx1 | check that skype version
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| 7:32:50 PM | TheFu | Same for facebook, twitter, and the other 10 "cloudy" things.
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| 7:32:53 PM | Straeger | Maybe office 2003...
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| 7:33:06 PM | lichenx1 | RobbieF, is it the new skype?
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| 7:33:40 PM | TheFu | So ... is Jeff gonna convert to Linux? That would solve his current Windows problem.
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| 7:33:43 PM | sr_wences | I'm getting ready to set up a pi-hole again. I set it up, but it wouldn't met me access my NAS in default setup.
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| 7:34:27 PM | Guruofthematrix | what is the kernal version
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| 7:34:30 PM | TheFu | Looks like a great beginner distro.
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| 7:34:31 PM | sr_wences | Becasue i had the NAS set up via server-name instead of IP because I'm using DHCP instead of static IP for that.
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| 7:35:19 PM | SashaD-G6 | Thiswould be great for Dave!!
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| 7:36:01 PM | TheFu | SashaD-G6: Perhaps UBuntu-Mate ... larger community,.
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| 7:36:10 PM | sr_wences | Jeff: Just put Lubuntu on it and your laptop will fly and you;ll be able to take advantage of a stable, well supported distro!
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| 7:36:30 PM | lichenx1 | MX LINUX!
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| 7:36:53 PM | TheFu | For a FAST distro, TinyCore.
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| 7:37:01 PM | TheFu | 12MB, includes X11.
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| 7:37:13 PM | TheFu | 55MB for common stuff.
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| 7:37:22 PM | Straeger | SANS had a good web talk about meltdown and spectre.
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| 7:37:22 PM | lichenx1 | is that more toy or can you actually work on it?
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| 7:37:36 PM | TheFu | http://tinycorelinux.net/intro.html
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| 7:38:11 PM | TheFu | lichenx1: I use it for online banking from an ISO booted via a VM.
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| 7:39:19 PM | garywhite | When I use Linux, I use SliTaz Linux in a VM
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| 7:39:28 PM | TheFu | Ubuntu Wiki page on these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/SpectreAndMeltdown
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| 7:39:32 PM | lichenx1 | TheFu, my chromebook is very low spec, worth the switch?
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| 7:39:45 PM | lichenx1 | celeron 2gb ram
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| 7:39:50 PM | TheFu | lichenx1: Depends on the chomebook.
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| 7:40:05 PM | lichenx1 | celeron is a mean joke from intel
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| 7:40:09 PM | TheFu | Tinycore is loaded into RAM at boot, so it flies on every computer.
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| 7:40:28 PM | TheFu | Actually, the Celeron 2950U is an amazing CPU.
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| 7:40:49 PM | Straeger | Full writeup: https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2018/01/reading-privileged-memory-with-side.html?m=1
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| 7:41:31 PM | Solbu | Heh. It sounded like RobbieF or Jeff yawned. :-)
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| 7:41:34 PM | lichenx1 | Intel Celeron N3050
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| 7:41:51 PM | TheFu | I thought that Nuttypro69 leaving ... again.
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| 7:42:18 PM | TheFu | The N celerons ARE a joke for most laptops.
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| 7:42:20 PM | TheFu | IMHO.
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| 7:42:43 PM | lichenx1 | ok so there ya go, I thought there was hope lol
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| 7:43:02 PM | lichenx1 | $100 chromebook samsung 3
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| 7:43:29 PM | TheFu | lichenx1: That CPU is about 50% slower than anyone should use.
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| 7:43:50 PM | lichenx1 | I wouldn't doubt it for a second
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| 7:44:16 PM | TheFu | I would try tinycore off a flash boot, see how it works. Get the mid-level downlaod, not the 12MB version.
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| 7:44:35 PM | lichenx1 | gonna try it
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| 7:44:44 PM | TheFu | lichenx1: That CPU was a cruel joke.
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| 7:45:15 PM | TheFu | My chromebook is about as fast as a 1st gen Core i5 laptop.
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| 7:45:37 PM | TheFu | Wiped chromeOS pretty quickly.
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| 7:45:41 PM | TheFu | OF course.
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| 7:45:55 PM | Solbu | … and installed Windows! ;-)
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| 7:46:02 PM | TheFu | NEVER!
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| 7:46:12 PM | sr_wences | When my Original Pixel goes off support, I'm going to put Xubuntu on it, I think.
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| 7:47:47 PM | lichenx1 | my pc processor is 553% faster lol
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| 7:47:48 PM | TheFu | Devices that require internet access to work when they shoudln't need it are warnings.
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| 7:48:20 PM | Straeger | Same for mobile apps.
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| 7:48:21 PM | Solbu | Just warnings? It should not be allowed. :-)
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| 7:48:47 PM | Straeger | Does that spiffy game need access to my contact list? No.
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| 7:49:26 PM | Straeger | Strip the exif data!
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| 7:49:38 PM | TheFu | New USgovt recommendations:
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| 7:49:38 PM | TheFu | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/09/us_govt_cybersecurity_recommendations/
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| 7:49:39 PM | Solbu | Nuttypro69: You need to fix your IRC client.
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| 7:50:02 PM | TheFu | Solbu: Can't you bounce him out?
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| 7:50:10 PM | Solbu | Just did. :-)
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| 7:50:15 PM | TheFu | Thanks.
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| 7:50:17 PM | Straeger | There's an online tool called creepy that can aggregate social media public posts and track someone's physical location.
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| 7:50:40 PM | Straeger | Uses public posts and exif data
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| 7:50:45 PM | lichenx1 | Sasha is making me hungry
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| 7:51:00 PM | RobbieF | mmmm pizza
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| 7:51:05 PM | lichenx1 | ^
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| 7:51:11 PM | TheFu | Straeger: The DC group I visit has social network challenges ... basically, it is being creepy towards different individuals to see what we can find out.
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| 7:51:20 PM | Solbu | My camera doesn't have location data in exif, and my Facebook posts doesn't include locations.
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| 7:51:33 PM | sr_wences | Dinnertime! See ya guys!
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| 7:51:33 PM | lichenx1 | My brother got me scorpion pepper tabasco, it's insane hot.
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| 7:51:44 PM | bp9 | LOL the chat is ahead of the video feed and I wondered why folks were getting hungry...
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| 7:51:50 PM | bp9 | ...for about 40 seconds LOL
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| 7:51:52 PM | TheFu | I time sync photos with GPS data ... only when outside my home areas.
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| 7:52:13 PM | TheFu | Do you tip the automatic driver?
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| 7:52:20 PM | Solbu | bp9: Hehe. The video is about 1 minute behind. .
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| 7:53:10 PM | bp9 | Solbu: I know, but some folks (lichenx?) are getting the video a bit quicker :-)
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| 7:53:10 PM | TheFu | They use access codes for those things.
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| 7:53:36 PM | Straeger | No more tipping drivers.
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| 7:53:39 PM | TheFu | Jeff - there are 60 yrs olds delivering pizza here.
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| 7:54:06 PM | TheFu | I always laugh when the pizza kid shows up in a Lexus.
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| 7:55:17 PM | Straeger | Give me a chance to drop a reverse shell and a written pentest agreement, and we'll see how reliable the machines are.
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| 7:55:29 PM | TheFu | How will they deliver to places that don't have addresses?
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| 7:55:41 PM | Straeger | Geolocation
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| 7:55:44 PM | TheFu | Straeger: They took 2 days to hack into a B757.
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| 7:56:02 PM | TheFu | Straeger: How does the customer provide the location?
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| 7:56:16 PM | Straeger | Phone GPS
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| 7:56:23 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: In 50 years hopefully Christ have returned, and rules. :-)
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| 7:56:24 PM | TheFu | I like plus.codes and W3W for those solutions.
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| 7:56:51 PM | TheFu | https://plus.codes/
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| 7:57:16 PM | TheFu | https://map.what3words.com/
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| 7:57:28 PM | TheFu | Much easier than GPS for humans.
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| 7:58:22 PM | TheFu | But I block location services in apps.
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| 7:58:34 PM | Straeger | Same here.
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| 7:59:31 PM | TheFu | Love that my tablet doesn't have a phone or GPS. ;) or any google services ...
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| 8:00:17 PM | Straeger | I will admit to using Google maps on my phone for GPS while driving on trips.
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| 8:00:29 PM | SweSG | Good night all! Solbu God natt!
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| 8:00:41 PM | TheFu | No gang signs in the photos.
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| 8:00:44 PM | Solbu | SweSG: Sov godt. :-)
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| 8:01:23 PM | TheFu | Gutten abend, ya'll.
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| 8:01:47 PM | Straeger | Hopefully I can remember to join online next week. It's been fun. Last time I caught the live show was back in like 2015 or something.
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| 8:01:55 PM | bp9 | @TheFu you made me think of a mainframe ABEND! :-)
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| 8:02:15 PM | Straeger | Guten abend, TheFu
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| 8:12:59 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: The last MP3 patent expired in april last year.
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| 8:16:42 PM | RobbieF | even still
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| 8:18:02 PM | Solbu | :-)
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| 8:18:32 PM | Solbu | Even Fedora and Debian have included MP3 support in the subsequent releases.
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| 8:33:39 PM | RobbieF | how'd ya'll enjoy the interview?
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| 8:33:52 PM | bp9 | I enjyed ut
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| 8:33:59 PM | Solbu | Interesting interview.
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| 8:34:15 PM | bp9 | I enjoyed it, but I was distracted by the background hum/hissing and didn't get all that he said.
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| 8:35:02 PM | bp9 | I remember hearing about linspire but I doubt I'd do anything with it, as a hardcore linux user.
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| 8:36:08 PM | bp9 | Having a hard time figuring out how linspire will stand apart from already well-established distros (i.e. ubuntu)
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| 8:41:55 PM | Solbu | The Freespire page have a chart listing the differences between Freespire, Ubuntu and Linux Mint.
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| 8:42:06 PM | Solbu | One of the differences is «Integrated Build Environment». What does that mean?
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| 8:47:28 PM | RobbieF | glad to hear it
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| 8:47:37 PM | RobbieF | aww, that's a bummer. Skype can be crappy sometimes.
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| 8:47:44 PM | RobbieF | but hopefully people enjoy what was said
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| 8:51:34 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: I like that they provide paid support for the free version, Freespire.
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| 8:51:54 PM | Solbu | Unless I misunderstood him. :-)
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| 8:54:31 PM | bp9 | @Solbu no, I heard the same thing. But the free version will not contain any proprietary code, which you will have to install manually yourself if you want it.
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| 8:56:26 PM | Solbu | Good. Free versions should not contain proprietary software. :-)
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| 8:57:29 PM | bp9 | :-)
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| 8:58:24 PM | Solbu | I don't even use proprietary drivers. :-)
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| 9:02:15 PM | bp9 | I'm not sure that's true for me, but I certainly don't use any proprietary applications, or applications that use proprietary binary formats.
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| 9:02:56 PM | bp9 | Word processors are the best example: I use LaTeX and markdown for everything, never the binary format M$ formats.
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| 9:03:04 PM | RobbieF | Solbu yeah that's kinda cool re paid support for freespire
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| 9:04:22 PM | Solbu | bp9: I use plain txt files for most of my own documents. If I need formating I use LibreOffice and it's native Open Document format.
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| 9:05:39 PM | Solbu | But my website is in markdown, using Pelican to generate it.
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| 9:08:11 PM | bp9 | For me plain text is important because it's easy to read, even with a text editor, and easy to convert to something else.
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| 9:08:24 PM | bp9 | Also easy to version control with CVS, SVN, or git.
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