| 6:58:24 PM | GWG | RobbieF: Nice sweatervest
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| 6:58:51 PM | TheFu1 | I use thunderbird ... there's IRC built-in.
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| 6:59:04 PM | GWG | I had to upgrade to a 4K TV so I could see more Category 5 detail.
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| 7:00:03 PM | TheFu1 | and the dealy bopper too.
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| 7:00:13 PM | GWG | TheFu1: Atomic vector plotter?
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| 7:00:33 PM | GWG | You shouldn't go to Hawaii. They have ballistic missiles, I hear
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| 7:01:03 PM | Garbee[m] | I'm working on figuring out VueJS to build a front-end single page application.
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| 7:01:06 PM | TheFu1 | GWG: That's ND, SD, Neb, Ark, KS ... with the missiles. I hear.
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| 7:01:10 PM | Garbee[m] | :/
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| 7:01:25 PM | GWG | Not if you put your atomic vector plotter into a strong brownian motion producer, such as a nice hot cup of tea
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| 7:01:44 PM | TheFu1 | Bad accident in Ark in the early 1980s. Almost killed everyone in the midwest.
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| 7:01:45 PM | Garbee[m] | Like, I'm kinda cool with it. I'm just trying to do some weird stuff to keep the front-end where I can keep it public and others can use it while keeping the backend system entirely separated.
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| 7:02:00 PM | GWG | TheFu1: I remember the documentary on that
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| 7:02:29 PM | lichenx1 | stutter on stream or my net?
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| 7:02:45 PM | GWG | Not here
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| 7:02:49 PM | TheFu1 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Damascus_Titan_missile_explosion
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| 7:03:16 PM | Dennis_Kelley | hello everyone!
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| 7:03:25 PM | TheFu1 | Kodi stream is nice, though Robby looks exceptionally white tonight.
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| 7:03:31 PM | GWG | TheFu1: I saw the Command and Control documentary
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| 7:03:52 PM | TheFu1 | GWG: Yep. Scary.
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| 7:03:58 PM | GWG | TheFu1: RobbieF reflects more than the others due more white surface area.
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| 7:04:23 PM | TheFu1 | And the contrasting clothing?
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| 7:04:43 PM | TheFu1 | Ok, viewer questions ...
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| 7:05:04 PM | GWG | Didn't RobbieF used to let his hair grow in the winter?
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| 7:05:45 PM | GWG | I didn't prepare a question in advance. Darn
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| 7:06:23 PM | GWG | Except for Wirecast
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| 7:07:37 PM | TheFu1 | Kodi is like a telephone or a vehicle.
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| 7:07:51 PM | Garbee[m] | Don't forget to make fun of RobbieF being bald too!
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| 7:07:57 PM | TheFu1 | You can drive to a bank to rob it, so is the vehicle illegal?
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| 7:08:39 PM | GWG | Garbee[m]: I can't see your comment as the reflection off of RobbieF is shining in my eyes.
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| 7:08:46 PM | GWG | Okay, no more RobbieF jokes
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| 7:08:54 PM | Solbu | Gaah, again the stream is unreliable!
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| 7:08:55 PM | Garbee[m] | hahaha
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| 7:08:57 PM | Garbee[m] | Good one GWG.
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| 7:09:03 PM | Solbu | (on kodi)
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| 7:09:23 PM | TheFu1 | Solbu: It has been perfect here.
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| 7:09:26 PM | Garbee[m] | Yea, the 4k does improve the shine...
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| 7:09:45 PM | GWG | Garbee[m]: They have powder for that
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| 7:10:03 PM | Garbee[m] | Robbie is so going to revoke my op privs after tonight.
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| 7:10:37 PM | GWG | I had this idea that for one episode, RobbieF tries to be the 'sidekick' and gets one of the others to be the lead host. I wonder if that's ever happened.
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| 7:10:45 PM | TheFu1 | Nice.
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| 7:10:56 PM | GWG | The episodes blur together in my mind after a while
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| 7:10:58 PM | Garbee[m] | Yup, Jeff was keeping up.
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| 7:11:47 PM | GWG | I must have forgotten
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| 7:11:52 PM | Garbee[m] | JeffWeston: But when you blow it up he can get a new one!
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| 7:11:54 PM | Garbee[m] | No
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| 7:11:55 PM | ABQTKY | The JVC may have HDR and wide color gamut...sooo, Robbie may be reflecting at P3 Garbee(m) GW
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| 7:11:55 PM | Garbee[m] | Bad idea.
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| 7:11:57 PM | Garbee[m] | Do not let me on camera.
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| 7:11:57 PM | Garbee[m] | RobbieF: gets it!
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| 7:12:18 PM | GWG | I've been here for so long, I'm still calling out the temperature at my location.
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| 7:12:47 PM | Garbee[m] | ABQTKY: Way too technical for a joke.
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| 7:12:50 PM | Garbee[m] | Dumb it down some.
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| 7:12:54 PM | Garbee[m] | I no smart man.
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| 7:13:06 PM | TheFu1 | 17.04 support ends ... like ... this week.
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| 7:13:17 PM | GWG | By the way, I'm happy to host the show
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| 7:13:17 PM | Garbee[m] | Wasn't 17.04 last week?
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| 7:13:43 PM | TheFu1 | No kernel fixes, ever, for 17.04. Don't know.
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| 7:14:17 PM | Garbee[m] | Yea, it was last week.
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| 7:14:18 PM | Garbee[m] | The 13th.
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| 7:14:22 PM | TheFu1 | No Xmas cards?
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| 7:14:43 PM | Garbee[m] | yea, make GWG the guest host. He'd do much better keeping it PG-13 than I would.
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| 7:14:53 PM | Solbu | Kids, if you want to know what snailmail or stamps are, ask your grandpa. :-)
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| 7:14:59 PM | Billm | Is 17.10 back online? I heard it was bricking laptops.
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| 7:14:59 PM | GWG | Garbee[m]: I've been co-hosting my own show for years.
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| 7:15:14 PM | Garbee[m] | I know, that's why you'd be better at it.
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| 7:15:15 PM | Garbee[m] | ;)
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| 7:15:27 PM | GWG | We just decided to start talking about Home Automation and such because Android has not filled our time
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| 7:15:36 PM | TheFu1 | Billm: the fresh, better, release was re-released last week.
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| 7:15:37 PM | Garbee[m] | Cool.
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| 7:15:54 PM | Garbee[m] | I do need to check in again. Just so little time to keep up with everything I want to.
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| 7:16:04 PM | GWG | I turned off our live stream. No one tuned in
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| 7:16:12 PM | Billm | TheFu1: Cool!
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| 7:16:17 PM | Garbee[m] | Is there an Apple Pi?
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| 7:16:26 PM | Garbee[m] | Or Chocolate Pi?
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| 7:16:29 PM | TheFu1 | Java on an SBC isn't a great idea.
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| 7:16:54 PM | Garbee[m] | Speaking of Chocolate... I have Ice Cream.
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| 7:17:08 PM | TheFu1 | Having hot cocoa here. ;)
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| 7:17:53 PM | Garbee[m] | TheFu1: Somehow I keep failing at making hot cocoa. It always ends up nasty now.
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| 7:18:02 PM | Garbee[m] | I used to be pretty good at it. No idea how i lost it.
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| 7:18:24 PM | TheFu1 | Garbee[m]: I just run the milk through the coffee maker.
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| 7:18:34 PM | GWG | I gave up ice cream. I'm having schwarma
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| 7:18:50 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Next question then becomes, what is dmips, or what you called it.
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| 7:19:05 PM | Garbee[m] | TheFu1: See I don't do milk. I just use hot water.
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| 7:19:12 PM | Garbee[m] | The time I did try milk I ended up burning it.
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| 7:19:17 PM | TheFu1 | Garbee[m]: well, there's the issue.
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| 7:19:17 PM | Garbee[m] | So I stopped.
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| 7:19:36 PM | GWG | It depends on what you are doing
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| 7:20:01 PM | TheFu1 | Anything less than an i7 with 16G and java is a hog. ... IMHO.
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| 7:20:33 PM | jcmorris | He said Java
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| 7:21:05 PM | GWG | I'm playing with Pi Zero W's for reporting sensor data
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| 7:21:25 PM | Garbee[m] | JeffWeston: Chocolate!
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| 7:21:39 PM | TheFu1 | If you need transcoding for plex clients, don't get a SBC.
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| 7:21:57 PM | TheFu1 | A $50 Intel or AMD CPU will handled transcoding.
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| 7:22:00 PM | Garbee[m] | No, Reddit will come after you for killing bannanas.
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| 7:22:02 PM | TheFu1 | for plex.
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| 7:22:18 PM | Billm | WOW SashaD-G6
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| 7:22:23 PM | Bluenoseguy | Oh my
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| 7:22:29 PM | GWG | I want to do this.. https://www.internalpositioning.com/ with some SBC
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| 7:23:11 PM | TheFu1 | SBC are a good solution for many, many, things.
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| 7:23:27 PM | SashaD-G6 | Hi Bill!!!
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| 7:23:43 PM | GWG | TheFu1: There is a place that sells the PI Zero W for $5, but only one per customer
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| 7:23:48 PM | GWG | So, I buy one every time I go there
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| 7:23:50 PM | GWG | I have a stack now
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| 7:23:57 PM | TheFu1 | GWG: per day.
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| 7:24:03 PM | TheFu1 | Microcenter is like that.
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| 7:24:09 PM | Billm | The site sells the 15V supply both 4A and 6A
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| 7:24:13 PM | GWG | TheFu1: That is the place I was talking about
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| 7:24:45 PM | SashaD-G6 | One bad joke... I get cut!
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| 7:24:50 PM | TheFu1 | They also sell CPU+MB combos with pricing that is better than online ... 50% of the time.
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| 7:25:04 PM | GWG | TheFu1: I want a Pi Zero WH
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| 7:25:14 PM | TheFu1 | SashaD-G6: it was a little off-color.
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| 7:27:20 PM | TheFu1 | Swedish chef - JeffW?
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| 7:27:25 PM | JeffWeston | HAHA
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| 7:28:17 PM | GWG | TheFu1: I think the Swedish Chef doesn't get respect.
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| 7:29:14 PM | Bluenoseguy | More than the lobsters... that episode was hilarious!
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| 7:30:17 PM | TheFu1 | mount
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| 7:30:52 PM | Solbu | df -T
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| 7:31:27 PM | TheFu1 | mount|grep ext
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| 7:31:39 PM | TheFu1 | Solbu: nice!
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| 7:32:40 PM | TheFu1 | THAT is very, very, nice.
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| 7:33:26 PM | TheFu1 | Probably does have vt-x.
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| 7:33:41 PM | TheFu1 | My i3-5015U has vt-x
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| 7:33:51 PM | TheFu1 | Which OS?
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| 7:36:12 PM | GWG | I made a mistake at getting the wrong voltage
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| 7:36:44 PM | TheFu1 | GWG: I've done that - decades ago.
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| 7:37:04 PM | Solbu | Could it be SecureBoot problems?
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| 7:37:05 PM | TheFu1 | DDR4 systems seem to be much pickier about RAM. Ryzen seems to be.
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| 7:37:36 PM | TheFu1 | Solbu: probably not with mainstream Linuxen.
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| 7:38:09 PM | Solbu | TheFu1: Not all mainstream distros support secureboot.
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| 7:38:16 PM | Solbu | Mine doesn't
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| 7:38:21 PM | TheFu1 | Check the MB manual for RAM compatibility.
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| 7:38:34 PM | TheFu1 | Solbu: what do you call 'mainstream?"
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| 7:38:40 PM | GWG | TheFu1: I wasn't paying attention.
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| 7:40:42 PM | TheFu1 | Roku does change the stream as needed. ... individual hair, not hairs.
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| 7:41:46 PM | Garbee[m] | Alrighty, I'm out for the night. Ya'll enjoy the rest of the show.
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| 7:41:54 PM | TheFu1 | Just noticed. Audio stream is mono. Is that planned?
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| 7:42:19 PM | TheFu1 | Or someting on my end?
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| 7:43:52 PM | TheFu1 | HDMI capabilities being negotiated between the different devices?
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| 7:44:22 PM | Billm | RobbieF: All 12 torrents should be up by tomorrow morning
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| 7:44:30 PM | TheFu1 | Sasha is on the left. Robbie is on the right.
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| 7:44:48 PM | GWG | You too? People did that on mine
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| 7:46:57 PM | Solbu | TheFu1: Yes, it is intentional having live stream in mono.
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| 7:48:40 PM | Solbu | NTSC – Not The Same Color
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| 7:50:24 PM | TheFu1 | h.265 ... the reason that a Plex that can transcode is needed. ;)
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| 7:53:17 PM | GWG | I had to step away, and RobbieF changed his shirt and the people around him changed.
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| 7:53:22 PM | GWG | Have I entered an alternate universe?
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| 7:54:06 PM | Solbu | The advice seems to be, keep it simple. ;-)
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| 7:56:42 PM | Solbu | Heh, does that carrot comment count as a healthy comment? :-)
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| 7:57:27 PM | GWG | I like the dramatic readings here
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| 7:58:11 PM | GWG | I'm reminded of dramatic readings of the Apple EULA
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| 7:58:27 PM | RobbieF | nice
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| 7:58:38 PM | RobbieF | Solbu ... ^^
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| 7:58:41 PM | RobbieF | oh
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| 7:58:42 PM | RobbieF | ^ ^
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| 7:58:55 PM | Solbu | GWG: I have a dramatic reading of the DeCSS source code. :-)
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| 7:59:11 PM | TheFu1 | Solbu: by Spock?
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| 7:59:18 PM | Solbu | No. heh
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| 7:59:25 PM | GWG | I met Leonard Nimoy once
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| 7:59:49 PM | RobbieF | very cool
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| 8:00:00 PM | TheFu1 | GWG: nice.
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| 8:00:09 PM | GWG | RobbieF: I also met someone who used to get his hair cut by his father
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| 8:01:02 PM | TheFu1 | suck-cut?
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| 8:01:18 PM | RobbieF | I cut liam's hair once. my wife cried
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| 8:01:19 PM | RobbieF | :p
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| 8:01:33 PM | GWG | TheFu1: Max Nimoy was a barber
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| 8:02:17 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Hehehe.
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| 8:02:28 PM | Billm | Which is the Barbie episode? I NEED to see that one.
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| 8:02:52 PM | Solbu | Billm: I was thinking the same thing. That sounds like a fun watch.
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| 8:03:46 PM | alpeck | that not very smart RobbieF
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| 8:03:54 PM | TheFu1 | RobbieF: say it isn't so!!!!
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| 8:04:14 PM | TheFu1 | In email? Really?
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| 8:04:16 PM | alpeck | email is plan text as well
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| 8:04:47 PM | RobbieF | I know, I'm dumb sometimes!
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| 8:05:00 PM | RobbieF | but I'm sure there are some who are nodding going, Oh, I do that too...
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| 8:05:01 PM | jcmorris | enpass works well, android, windows, linux clients
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| 8:05:05 PM | TheFu1 | RobbieF: nextcloud + keepassX
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| 8:05:13 PM | RobbieF | good idea TheFu1
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| 8:05:21 PM | RobbieF | That sounds show-feature worthy.
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| 8:05:31 PM | GWG | What is the difference between nextcloud and owncloud? I always confuse them
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| 8:05:55 PM | RobbieF | apparently NextCloud is a fork?
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| 8:06:00 PM | TheFu1 | nextcloud is a fork. Former OC leader is running NC now.
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| 8:06:05 PM | GWG | How dare Apple prevent people from hacking their devices?
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| 8:06:10 PM | GWG | TheFu1: Which do I want though?
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| 8:06:33 PM | TheFu1 | I chose NC, but ... you might have different requirements.
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| 8:06:50 PM | GWG | TheFu1: Why?
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| 8:06:54 PM | TheFu1 | Probably want a VPN first.
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| 8:07:20 PM | TheFu1 | GWG: Becuase you and I are differnt people? Is that a trick question?
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| 8:07:35 PM | Billm | Live feed from web page has dropped a couple of times.
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| 8:08:47 PM | TheFu1 | If the different govts weren't violating privacy rights, we wouldn't be so crazy about strong encryption.
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| 8:08:59 PM | GWG | TheFu1: I meant, what requirements did you have?
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| 8:09:07 PM | TheFu1 | Too many to list here.
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| 8:09:39 PM | GWG | TheFu1: Another time then
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| 8:09:42 PM | TheFu1 | The dropbox-like stuff was really a minor consideration.
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| 8:09:54 PM | TheFu1 | I can use rsync.
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| 8:09:54 PM | alpeck | way to flip that around SashaD-G6
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| 8:10:09 PM | RobbieF | Oh, she's good. :p
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| 8:10:26 PM | JeffWeston | this is more so an ethics issue than an encryption issue\
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| 8:10:27 PM | TheFu1 | NO! Not without a public, court order.
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| 8:10:46 PM | RobbieF | right, but if they HAVE a court order, should they be allowed?
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| 8:11:17 PM | TheFu1 | RobbieF: Only after they prove for years they aren't violating rights like they have since 2002-ish.
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| 8:11:22 PM | JeffWeston | the root issue is that by accessing hte phone it opens hte door to non-suspect public
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| 8:11:26 PM | TheFu1 | Trust needs to be re-re-re-earned.
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| 8:11:38 PM | jcmorris | From the law point of view if you have nothing to hide, from our point of view, they don't need to know if I have anything to hide
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| 8:12:07 PM | TheFu1 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument
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| 8:12:31 PM | TheFu1 | Solar and wind energy is a way to pre-pay for energy.
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| 8:13:06 PM | JeffWeston | right, jcmorris
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| 8:13:28 PM | RobbieF | I've heard some issues re. wind like how it absorbs the wind, causing lack of rain ...
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| 8:13:58 PM | Billm | It's always something
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| 8:14:08 PM | TheFu1 | Amazon video has a doc about solar and wind power in Canada. Very interesting.
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| 8:14:10 PM | RobbieF | Always, Billm
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| 8:14:14 PM | JeffWeston | i always personalize it this way, if your friend is a drug trafficer but you dont know and have nothin to do with that lifestyle, why should the police have a rioght to via your interactions with that friend. thats the big privacy issue i think
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| 8:14:26 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Regarding passwords; You need a system for creating passwords. One part that varies and one part that is the same. That way you have a uniqe passord for each site, that is simultaneously the same password. I learned this from TWiT's Security Now netcast. I can give examples in private/email on what I do.
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| 8:15:12 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: And you'll allways be able to remember it. I can remembewr all my 50 different passwords because of this.
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| 8:16:20 PM | TheFu1 | Solbu: I know fewer than 3 passwords. The rest and sometimes the username/login aren't something I know. Password managers rock.
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| 8:16:51 PM | Solbu | TheFu1: I don't trust password managers.
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| 8:17:08 PM | TheFu1 | Solbu: txt file and openssl?
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| 8:17:23 PM | Gpop7 | Great show. Goodnight all. Have a good week.
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| 8:17:28 PM | Solbu | TheFu1: No, brain memory.
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| 8:17:58 PM | Billm | RobbieF: Barbie episode number?
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| 8:18:00 PM | Solbu | TheFu1: I'm serious. i have at least 50 Different passwords, and I remember them all, because I have a system for how they are constructed.
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| 8:18:07 PM | alpeck | isn't password managers like putting all your eggs in one basket
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| 8:18:17 PM | Solbu | alpeck: My point exactly.
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| 8:18:29 PM | TheFu1 | Solbu: I used to do that. Stopped when I had to use random logins too.
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| 8:19:31 PM | alpeck | i love digital legacy but then intel bought them
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| 8:19:47 PM | Billm | NICE!!
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| 8:19:48 PM | alpeck | so that means NSA has unrestricted access
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| 8:20:09 PM | Dennis_Kelley | thanks guys!
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| 8:20:17 PM | alpeck | bye
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| 8:20:25 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Robbie JeffWeston and SashaD-G6 Great show!
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| 8:20:43 PM | TheFu1 | Dennis_Kelley: +1
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| 8:23:50 PM | RobbieF | how was that camera?
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| 8:24:02 PM | Solbu | it was nice. :-)
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| 8:24:22 PM | Solbu | Looked fine on the 720p live stream. :-)
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| 8:24:26 PM | RobbieF | cool
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| 8:24:36 PM | RobbieF | This one is definitely my favorite as far as form factor goes
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| 8:28:16 PM | SashaD-G6 | Good night everyone..see you next week!
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