| 6:58:23 PM | Solbu | ABQTKY: Yes: https://www.solbu.net/english/ambulance-helicopter-pilots-are-just-amazing.html
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| 6:58:53 PM | GWG | TheFu: This is the only Ubuntu system I have. I'm thinking of going to something I'm more familiar with
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| 6:59:00 PM | GWG | Maybe back to Fedora
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| 6:59:49 PM | MarshMan | ABQTKY: I know on MATE if you open a folder then go to Edit, Preferences, View you can adjust Icon sizes
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| 6:59:59 PM | TheFu | GWG: Just manually change the uid/gid to match between the systems. That's all you need.
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| 7:00:05 PM | GWG | TheFu: I did that
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| 7:00:10 PM | GWG | I'm still getting permission errors.
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| 7:00:22 PM | TheFu | GWG: trying to use root?
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| 7:00:26 PM | TheFu | root is blocked for NFS.
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| 7:00:39 PM | TheFu | by default.
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| 7:00:44 PM | GWG | TheFu: No. It's the webserver that can't access the file.
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| 7:01:02 PM | TheFu | GWG: I can stay late ...
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| 7:01:24 PM | TheFu | NFS is NFS ... across all Unixen.
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| 7:01:36 PM | ABQTKY | @Solbu - Good grief. You really should have stayed away from PyeongChang. (I'll read the page a bit more slowly after the show. You okay now?)
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| 7:01:54 PM | TheFu | Pi day! Everyone ordered the new r-pi v3 b+?
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| 7:02:33 PM | GWG | TheFu: I still like to be on a more comfortable distro
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| 7:07:17 PM | MarshMan | Jweston: A Cat5 Bat signal
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| 7:08:30 PM | BobK54 | three years ago it was even more significant: 3.14.15
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| 7:08:54 PM | TheFu | The new v3 B+ has a GigE NIC, but it is connected to the old USB2-host controller, so probably 250Mbps throughput max.
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| 7:11:57 PM | TheFu | The v3-B+ wifi is AC, finally.
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| 7:12:11 PM | MarshMan | RobbieF: Not true Gigabit ethernet
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| 7:12:35 PM | TheFu | MarshMan: The internal bus is the limitation on the ethernet port.
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| 7:13:10 PM | MarshMan | TheFu: Yup but still not true Gigabit
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| 7:13:53 PM | TheFu | Think they are still using the same old flakey USB controller inside. ;(
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| 7:15:27 PM | MarshMan | Baby steps. They'll spring something else on us though.
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| 7:15:40 PM | TheFu | That would be 480Mbps shared across all peripherals - USB, NIC, ...
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| 7:15:56 PM | TheFu | PoE rocks! 24v or 48v?
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| 7:16:45 PM | TheFu | Ubiquiti routers often support these.
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| 7:17:02 PM | TheFu | Need a PoE injector otherwise.
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| 7:18:50 PM | GWG | Red Alert
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| 7:19:32 PM | MarshMan | Shields up
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| 7:19:32 PM | TheFu | Maybe the UPS needs new batteries? Swapped out some 6 yr old ones here last year.
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| 7:20:26 PM | TheFu | Did anyone get in on the $314 Core i3 laptops that MSFT was selling today?
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| 7:20:43 PM | MarshMan | fundsrlo
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| 7:20:52 PM | lichenx1 | up yet?
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| 7:21:01 PM | Solbu | no
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| 7:21:22 PM | lichenx1 | there it goes
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| 7:21:42 PM | Solbu | Kodi is live.
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| 7:21:51 PM | TheFu | "starts soon" msg.
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| 7:21:56 PM | MarshMan | youtube good
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| 7:23:02 PM | Solbu | RobbieF_: Kodi and Youtube is reported to be online.
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| 7:23:21 PM | MarshMan | RobbieF_: Bad hardware, been there
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| 7:23:33 PM | TheFu | I failed the google captcha today.
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| 7:23:50 PM | MarshMan | Jweston: Maybe u r a robot
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| 7:23:55 PM | TheFu | Jeff needs an IRC client.
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| 7:24:14 PM | Jweston | im an android
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| 7:24:18 PM | Jweston | call me data
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| 7:24:23 PM | BobK54 | eric raymond just issued a rant on getting an open source/open hardware battery backup that lasts more than 3 years and doesnt require a wierd proprietary battery
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| 7:24:24 PM | MarshMan | See!
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| 7:24:31 PM | GWG | Jweston: Does not compute
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| 7:25:04 PM | MarshMan | Deja vu
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| 7:25:13 PM | TheFu | Danger Will Robinson!
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| 7:26:38 PM | Solbu | Jweston: So, does that make RobbieF_ Lore? :-)
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| 7:27:01 PM | TheFu | Pi-hole!
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| 7:27:59 PM | Jweston | yes solbu
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| 7:28:14 PM | Solbu | :-)
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| 7:32:03 PM | Guest_9391 | R Pi 3 + is supposedly in stock at Canakit. I just ordered a basic kit,
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| 7:34:19 PM | TheFu | Only need 3 things usually - a) r-pi, b) quality PSU, c) minimal case. Assuming you have a 4-8G microSD to boot. Most pi systems don't really need much storage. Media really needs to be stored elsewhere.
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| 7:34:25 PM | GWG | Jweston: Japanese or American arcade buttons?
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| 7:35:06 PM | TheFu | Spyhunter!
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| 7:35:37 PM | GWG | I built a tabletop Picade using the Pimoroni kit and redid the buttons. I just didn't want to cut wood
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| 7:36:13 PM | GWG | I grew up with Tapper
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| 7:36:18 PM | GWG | But I did Spyhunter
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| 7:36:36 PM | Solbu | Stunts! :-)
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| 7:36:44 PM | GWG | I had Spyhunter for the C64
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| 7:36:47 PM | TheFu | $400+ - at least.
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| 7:38:44 PM | TheFu | Miss my Atari 2600. Had 150-ish cartridges.
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| 7:38:56 PM | TheFu | Completely addictive.
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| 7:39:10 PM | TheFu | Owncloud/nextcloud on a r-pi!
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| 7:40:03 PM | GWG | TheFu: Nextcloud is what started my NFS issues
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| 7:40:26 PM | TheFu | GWG: I use nextcloud with NFS. We can chat post-show.
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| 7:41:07 PM | GWG | TheFu: I think it is time to redo this system. It started life as a Mythbuntu 16.04 installation, and MythBuntu is dead anyway
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| 7:41:45 PM | TheFu | I'm on 16.04 for most of my systems. Actually migrated from 14.04 last month.
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| 7:41:54 PM | TheFu | Newer isn't always better.;)
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| 7:42:23 PM | GWG | TheFu: Yes, but I needed Python 3.6 for something, and that started a whole boatload of thingsd
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| 7:42:31 PM | TheFu | pyenv.
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| 7:43:38 PM | GWG | TheFu: My point is, I did what seemed like a simple software upgrade, and it started a chain of events.
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| 7:43:44 PM | TheFu | Never modify the system python. That is for the OS vendor. Best practice for all scripting languages is to use something like perlbrew, rbenv, rvm, or pyenv.
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| 7:43:45 PM | GWG | I think I should declare bankruptcy
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| 7:43:53 PM | ABQTKY | GWG, well, I'm on Mythbuntu 17.10 - works fine! 8-) It's just Xubuntu with MythTV.
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| 7:44:10 PM | TheFu | ABQTKY: I don't touch short-term-support releases.
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| 7:44:21 PM | TheFu | 6 months of support just ain't enough.
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| 7:44:38 PM | ABQTKY | The FU - live dangerously!!
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| 7:44:49 PM | GWG | ABQTKY: Without an actual distro, I'm going back to Fedora...where I know where everything is.
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| 7:44:54 PM | TheFu | ABQTKY: I did, in the 1990s and earlier.
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| 7:44:55 PM | GWG | I'm a CentOS/Fedora person
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| 7:45:07 PM | MarshMan | Debian here
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| 7:45:32 PM | GWG | I think it will be easier for me to deal with things.
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| 7:45:37 PM | TheFu | Ubuntu for 95% / Debian for 5%. CentOS for testing when I want to feel icky. ;)
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| 7:45:46 PM | TheFu | GWG: I completely understand.
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| 7:46:12 PM | GWG | TheFu: I was willing to put it off till I had a need. My need right now is I don't want to troubleshoot a distro I only use on one system
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| 7:46:42 PM | GWG | Maybe I'll see about some other upgrades
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| 7:46:53 PM | Nelson | Hello Robbie !
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| 7:47:26 PM | TheFu | dropped?
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| 7:47:30 PM | BobK54 | gone
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| 7:47:40 PM | TheFu | Or did my r-pi break?
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| 7:47:44 PM | Solbu | heh.
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| 7:47:49 PM | MarshMan | yuotube out
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| 7:47:53 PM | Solbu | Kodi out too.
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| 7:47:57 PM | MarshMan | website out
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| 7:48:11 PM | lichenx1 | TheFu, when you say pyenv you mean like virtualenv?
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| 7:48:17 PM | BobK54 | wanted a pi for a long time, just ordered the new one! New toys!!!!
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| 7:48:20 PM | fking | Roku is out also.
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| 7:48:49 PM | Solbu | Kodi is live.
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| 7:48:59 PM | MarshMan | youtube live
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| 7:49:21 PM | TheFu | lichenx1: Don't know that one. I'm not a python guy. Basically, it is a way to have 20 different versions of python installed which don't impact the system version, but let you choose which you want for any projects, as desired.
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| 7:49:55 PM | lichenx1 | TheFu, just checked it, looks nice but I think virtualenv works better (for me) but i'm gonna look into it
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| 7:49:58 PM | ABQTKY | Lots of audio and video stuttering, but the website's Watch Live - is running...so far.
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| 7:50:06 PM | lichenx1 | I think you have like 75 ways to make a venv with python lol
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| 7:50:22 PM | TheFu | lichenx1: https://virtualenv.pypa.io/en/stable/ - looks like what I mean.
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| 7:50:58 PM | TheFu | I use perlbrew - perl guy.
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| 7:51:26 PM | TheFu | Back when I did ruby + rails, it was rvm. Missed Perl performance too much.
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| 7:51:34 PM | Nelson | hello Robbie
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| 7:52:00 PM | TheFu | Nelson: Hey Nelson. Robbie is live now.
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| 7:52:29 PM | Garbee | Hey
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| 7:52:54 PM | Garbee | DId I miss any funny stuff?
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| 7:53:01 PM | Garbee | I got on the stream as Robbie left that chatroom.
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| 7:53:07 PM | Nelson | the new background on the set looks great, you finally got rid of that Brick background that I hated
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| 7:53:45 PM | TheFu | I can get GigE here ... $499/month + $800 install.
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| 7:53:50 PM | lichenx1 | I just got 8mb down dsl for $45 month and feel like crying
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| 7:53:52 PM | MarshMan | Snakeoil
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| 7:53:54 PM | Nelson | no the old set was great, the brick was just bad
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| 7:53:55 PM | Garbee | RobbieF: Just cry over the fact that I hate all of it.
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| 7:54:14 PM | TheFu | I miss the bricks.
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| 7:54:17 PM | TheFu | ;)
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| 7:54:23 PM | Garbee | But I still watch almost every week.
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| 7:54:24 PM | TheFu | Comcast.
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| 7:54:39 PM | MarshMan | consistency
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| 7:55:31 PM | TheFu | I pay $110/month for 15/3Mbps.
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| 7:55:54 PM | lichenx1 | actually worse than me per price
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| 7:55:58 PM | lichenx1 | can't believe it! lol
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| 7:56:13 PM | TheFu | I have business service, not residential.
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| 7:56:26 PM | TheFu | That means I call a different number and talk to someone local.
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| 7:56:28 PM | Solbu | I have free fiber built in to the house rent, but I don't use it because it doesn't have static IP, and they block smtp ports inbound and outbound. I run a mailserver so I need unlimited ports. So I still use aDSL, which give me static 30-bit IP and PTR record of my chosing.
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| 7:56:37 PM | TheFu | Also have static IPs - a /29.
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| 7:56:38 PM | lichenx1 | mining is not a poor mans sport but I'm attempting
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| 7:56:43 PM | ABQTKY | Uh, oh - vy high CPU use and maybe a bit higher memory use than normal. Did I 'acquire' a 'miner' or some such?
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| 7:56:43 PM | ABQTKY | Very high CPU use and more memory use here. Might not be a good sign.
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| 7:56:44 PM | lichenx1 | sadly
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| 7:57:47 PM | Jweston | lichenx1 get into turtle coin they have designed it to not need a miner
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| 7:57:48 PM | TheFu | Solbu: I run a mail server and a separate email gateway. I can put the gateway on a VPS, leaving my email server local and use a tunnel (ssh or openvpn) between them.
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| 7:57:53 PM | ABQTKY | Also very slow for posts to show up here in the ChatRoom...like several minutes for a post to appear.
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| 7:57:55 PM | Jweston | it works with commerical grade equipmetn
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| 8:01:39 PM | TheFu | A warning ... using a GUI for mounting on Linux is usually the worst choice. Definitely for performance and sometimes it will trash the existing /etc/fstab - making the next boot fail.
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| 8:03:38 PM | Solbu | RobbieF, Jweston: Try episode 407. you answered a cifs question on that episode.
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| 8:05:33 PM | Jweston | ok
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| 8:11:39 PM | TheFu | Ludachis speed!
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| 8:11:51 PM | TheFu | s/chris/
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| 8:12:32 PM | TheFu | Next up - BFR ---- ignore the published abbrev. They call is a BIG F....... Rocket!
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| 8:14:10 PM | TheFu | SpaceX uses less efficient rockets and fuels with a lower ISP (specific impulse) than others.
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| 8:19:09 PM | TheFu | Pre-Quadcopters, there were R/C aircraft, powered by gas engines. Was this something different?
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| 8:22:54 PM | Solbu | Jweston: How do one find out which ransomeware one need recovery from.
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| 8:29:35 PM | TheFu | Don't run massively used operating systems.
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| 8:29:48 PM | TheFu | Windows, iOS, Android.
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| 8:29:57 PM | TheFu | Huge targets.
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| 8:30:09 PM | TheFu | BSD ... not really a target.
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| 8:37:45 PM | RobbieF | sgajh
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| 8:37:56 PM | Garbee | Yea you're online.
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| 8:38:02 PM | Garbee | I'm just jumping between 6 things.
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| 8:38:12 PM | Garbee | haha
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| 8:38:13 PM | Garbee | :D
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| 8:38:23 PM | MarshMan | Night boys
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| 8:38:23 PM | BobK54 | night all !!
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