| 6:58:59 PM | RobbieF | Hi!
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| 6:59:40 PM | MarshMan | Hello guys!!
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| 6:59:58 PM | TheFu | 5 , 4, 3,
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| 7:00:39 PM | Solbu | And we have liftoff
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| 7:01:16 PM | skywriter64 | Hi,everyone From Brooklyn,NY much less snow
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| 7:01:17 PM | datamangler | white circle with spinning orange on mine.
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| 7:01:57 PM | MarshMan | Yo, Brooklyn what up?
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| 7:02:25 PM | TheFu | #deleteFacebook
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| 7:02:41 PM | MarshMan | TheFu: already done!!
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| 7:02:44 PM | TheFu | ^--- Jeff Approved.
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| 7:03:07 PM | Solbu | We should start a facebook group: «We who deleted our facebook account»
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| 7:03:17 PM | skywriter64 | Hi Marsh Man,I have to change my hdd it's almost fill.
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| 7:03:37 PM | MarshMan | I'm me from here watching with my eyes
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| 7:03:54 PM | agamotto | Hallo all
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| 7:03:57 PM | GWG | Ah, Brooklyn
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| 7:04:04 PM | Solbu | Hmm. kodi stream died.
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| 7:04:06 PM | GWG | I stay out of it
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| 7:04:16 PM | GWG | Would join in, not home yet
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| 7:04:30 PM | MarshMan | I moved out of Brooklyn 51 years ago
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| 7:04:37 PM | lichenx1_ | losing code is the most painful backup loss
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| 7:04:43 PM | lichenx1_ | don't really care about anything else
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| 7:05:00 PM | TheFu | And don't forget that firealarms wear out - last about 10 yrs, so swap those out!
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| 7:05:24 PM | BobK54 | I moved out of Brooklyn 63 years ago. I was a year old. :)
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| 7:05:46 PM | MarshMan | I was 4
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| 7:05:48 PM | TheFu | Backups - daily, automatic, versioned, offsite and local .... restore tested!
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| 7:06:24 PM | TheFu | rdiff-backup ... over ssh.
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| 7:06:36 PM | TheFu | "Pulled", never "pushed".
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| 7:06:45 PM | Solbu | backups? What's that? :-)
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| 7:07:14 PM | TheFu | For Ubuntu, there's a tool - aptik which is probably sufficient for most end-users.
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| 7:07:18 PM | lichenx1_ | TheFu, tell me your ways because whatever I'm doing is surely the hard way by default
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| 7:07:52 PM | BobK54 | grsync weekly on my linux box. SyncBackFree daily on my business laptop.
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| 7:08:46 PM | TheFu | lichenx1_: My method is more for servers and more complex than most people would use.
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| 7:09:04 PM | TheFu | I use my server scripts for desktop backups too.
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| 7:09:13 PM | TheFu | Ping. video died.
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| 7:09:20 PM | lichenx1_ | so aptik might solve my issues along with BobK54 's recommendation ?
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| 7:09:22 PM | Solbu | Hmm. kodi stream died, too.
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| 7:09:22 PM | datamangler | just lost live stream on ipad
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| 7:09:24 PM | BobK54 | derp....
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| 7:09:40 PM | Solbu | So, no backup fo rthe live stream? ;-)
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| 7:09:55 PM | TheFu | Towards end of month ... ran out of data?
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| 7:09:59 PM | datamangler | :-)))
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| 7:10:10 PM | fking | stream is gone on roku also.
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| 7:10:14 PM | lichenx1_ | https://i.imgur.com/Hpc7rIB.png
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| 7:10:41 PM | MarshMan | no youtube or website
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| 7:10:48 PM | TheFu | Anyone think they noticed yet?
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| 7:10:57 PM | rd_blair | web
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| 7:11:10 PM | woowoo | Hi guys :) how do you backup your website with cpanel
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| 7:11:11 PM | SashaR | wait.. are we gone?
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| 7:11:17 PM | Solbu | It's not their internet connection, since they're here, and responds to ping.
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| 7:11:18 PM | TheFu | YES!
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| 7:11:19 PM | datamangler | yes
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| 7:11:21 PM | MarshMan | They don't look like they did
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| 7:11:25 PM | Solbu | SashaR: Yes, ive stram is down across th eboard.
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| 7:12:02 PM | SashaR | Ill have him check
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| 7:12:04 PM | Solbu | SashaR: Tell Robbie he need a backup for the live stream. Hehe. :-)
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| 7:12:58 PM | SashaR | back now?
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| 7:12:59 PM | rd_blair | at least we can see it again on patreon!
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| 7:13:08 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream is back.
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| 7:13:22 PM | MarshMan | website and utube up
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| 7:13:25 PM | rd_blair | website back
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| 7:13:25 PM | datamangler | yes . . on web
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| 7:13:31 PM | SashaR | thank you!!
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| 7:14:11 PM | TheFu | https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2386846
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| 7:14:37 PM | rd_blair | Whst did they change?
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| 7:14:48 PM | MarshMan | still here
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| 7:14:56 PM | MarshMan | not going anywhere
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| 7:15:08 PM | datamangler | 3minutes
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| 7:15:15 PM | MarshMan | couple or three minutes
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| 7:15:26 PM | agamotto | Well, so much for that.
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| 7:15:34 PM | TheFu | 3-5 min?
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| 7:15:38 PM | BobK54 | we all left and had dinner while you were off
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| 7:15:52 PM | Solbu | BobK54: Heh.. :-)
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| 7:15:56 PM | SashaR | are we gone again?
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| 7:16:03 PM | MarshMan | nope
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| 7:16:08 PM | datamangler | web is up
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| 7:16:36 PM | MarshMan | deleted Facebook account. No trust from me.
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| 7:16:54 PM | datamangler | is frendica a good alternative ??
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| 7:17:13 PM | TheFu | datamangler: probably not.
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| 7:17:13 PM | MarshMan | FriendFace from the IT Crowd
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| 7:17:54 PM | TheFu | Really, the best answer is to have your family host their own social network for whatever you want. RetroShare might be the easiest.
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| 7:19:30 PM | TheFu | If you use Facebook to GATHER information for corporate interactions ... fine. If you are oversharing on FB, perhaps a new method like lunch meetings, would work?
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| 7:19:33 PM | TheFu | IMHO.
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| 7:20:39 PM | MarshMan | TheFu: I did the same but people are generally moving away from Facebook anyway
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| 7:20:43 PM | agamotto | I pretty much relegate Facebook to keep with my far-flung friends and that is about it.
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| 7:21:02 PM | TheFu | Use it through a container on a computer. Do not use it through android - fb app gathers too much data without you realizing it, but you've allowed. Ignorance. Turns out that FB was recording audio through their apps.
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| 7:21:19 PM | TheFu | I have lots of FB accounts. None are tied to my name.
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| 7:21:27 PM | agamotto | I would consider leaving FB, if I could get people to pick ONE place to go. I have no desire to open six accounts just to keep up with folks.
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| 7:21:37 PM | TheFu | agamotto: email?
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| 7:22:00 PM | MarshMan | Private is ONLY a rank in the military
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| 7:22:07 PM | TheFu | My real friends keep me updated, as I do to them.
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| 7:23:23 PM | MarshMan | problem is that FB changes your settings with updates
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| 7:23:23 PM | agamotto | Hmmm, ALL galaxies rotate at the same speed? Interesting...
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| 7:24:15 PM | TheFu | "Unable to connect" - facebook.com
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| 7:24:40 PM | datamangler | hosts file 0.0.0.0 www.facebook.com
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| 7:24:56 PM | TheFu | datamangler: yep, but that isn't enough.
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| 7:25:22 PM | TheFu | https://lifehacker.com/5817447/how-to-block-unwanted-ads-in-all-applications-and-speed-up-web-browsing-with-the-hosts-file
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| 7:25:27 PM | datamangler | You're right. Wish someone had a good list for just the major pain in the a..
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| 7:25:38 PM | datamangler | cool
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| 7:26:32 PM | BobK54 | wow, I'm not on FB often and my download just started...all 133MB worth. WTH???
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| 7:26:41 PM | datamangler | Holy cow batman. Glad I never signed up.
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| 7:26:41 PM | TheFu | I have a huge hosts file ... $ wc -l /etc/hosts
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| 7:26:41 PM | TheFu | 131539 /etc/hosts
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| 7:27:11 PM | TheFu | Every time you see a FB "like" button ... anywhere on the web. They are tracking you.
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| 7:27:33 PM | TheFu | Same for linkedin/twitter/bing/google/insta-pict
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| 7:28:16 PM | TheFu | For a home network, a raspberry-pi project called Pi-Hole is probably the easiest way to block these tracking people.
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| 7:29:02 PM | datamangler | I though about pi-hole but it has a reputation of breaking a lot of web pages without labor intensive curating
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| 7:29:23 PM | TheFu | datamangler: and breaking a webpage is bad?
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| 7:29:27 PM | TheFu | Really?
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| 7:29:33 PM | agamotto | I am finding that in the last few years, I simply don't feel the need to participate in the "internet" like I used to.
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| 7:29:35 PM | MarshMan | SashaR: You should download your info first
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| 7:29:37 PM | datamangler | I might have to try it anyway and maybe ??
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| 7:30:47 PM | TheFu | It isn't just facebook. All those cloudy services do the same.
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| 7:31:11 PM | Gopher2 | Not just Cambridge Analitica could have your data but also any subcontractors they used such as Canadian AggregateIQ
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| 7:31:19 PM | TheFu | And if you have an android app - they are TAKING more data than you'll believe.
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| 7:31:53 PM | lichenx1_ | BobK54, you might not get my pm's, does grsync have a "folder watch"
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| 7:32:09 PM | agamotto | Which is why I have perhaps 5 apps on my phone
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| 7:33:26 PM | BobK54 | lichenx1 - not sure on the folder watch. it is definitely incremental after the first save though so its fast
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| 7:33:40 PM | lichenx1_ | yea rsync
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| 7:37:05 PM | TheFu | rsync has some issues for system backups where it fails. It is probably fine for your HOME directory, since the ownership is always YOU.
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| 7:37:14 PM | MarshMan | I am in the 14 day grace period
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| 7:37:30 PM | MarshMan | feed gone
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| 7:37:30 PM | lichenx1_ | stream down
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| 7:37:40 PM | datamangler | oops. web site stream just died !
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| 7:37:46 PM | fking | Roku gone.
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| 7:37:50 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream died too.
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| 7:38:00 PM | BobK54 | it's dead jim!
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| 7:38:26 PM | Solbu | Seriously, on all my kodi systems, cat5 live stream have been crap for the last 6 months, or so.
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| 7:38:35 PM | agamotto | Sounds like it is time to turn some things down/off to reduce the size of the stream?
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| 7:39:00 PM | lichenx1_ | back up
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| 7:39:14 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream is back.
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| 7:39:19 PM | MarshMan | i Hvae no friends anyway
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| 7:39:22 PM | MarshMan | have
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| 7:39:57 PM | Solbu | MarshMan: A friend of mine once registered on MySpace just to read the message: «You have no friends» :-)
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| 7:39:58 PM | datamangler | yes
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| 7:40:03 PM | SashaR | I'm your friend
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| 7:40:03 PM | BobK54 | its all good Robbie!
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| 7:40:16 PM | datamangler | short disruption this time
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| 7:40:27 PM | MarshMan | SashaR: not on facebook. :)
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| 7:40:37 PM | datamangler | YEA !
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| 7:40:39 PM | agamotto | Truly, you know you are a bad person when even dogs won't have anything to do with you.
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| 7:41:02 PM | MarshMan | agamotto: been there
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| 7:41:23 PM | Solbu | RobbieF_, SashaR: Repeating, since you were gone fr a few secs: On all my kodi systems, cat5 live stream have been crap for the last 6 months, or so.
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| 7:42:08 PM | TheFu | Solbu: My kodi has been fine. r-pi v2.
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| 7:42:29 PM | TheFu | Thought it was a girl.
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| 7:42:30 PM | SashaR | I'm sorry about that:(
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| 7:42:35 PM | MarshMan | Facebook is another way for people to ignore me
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| 7:42:59 PM | MarshMan | sound went hollow
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| 7:43:03 PM | datamangler | oops ? what happened to sound? New microphone is a back of the room?
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| 7:43:33 PM | datamangler | I think I"m going to to the Plex Pi
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| 7:43:37 PM | Solbu | SashaR: THe sound is Not comming from your mikes, in that close shot.
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| 7:43:37 PM | TheFu | $69? Ouch. Thought they were $35 ... with $8/case and $10/PSU.
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| 7:44:01 PM | MarshMan | Microcenter has them for $35
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| 7:44:12 PM | MarshMan | Amazon and others hike the price
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| 7:44:34 PM | TheFu | Robbie got a "kit"
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| 7:44:46 PM | agamotto | I just assumed the problems were Rogers (or whomever) not providing decent service to the studio.
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| 7:45:05 PM | TheFu | And they are in CA ... so 20% more for CDol.
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| 7:45:07 PM | SashaR | Better now?
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| 7:45:17 PM | MarshMan | Yes
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| 7:45:18 PM | BobK54 | sound is BACK
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| 7:45:32 PM | SashaR | and with that shot?
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| 7:45:34 PM | TheFu | Audio from Robbie ... just came back.
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| 7:45:34 PM | BobK54 | and gone again
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| 7:45:44 PM | MarshMan | when he switches cameras sound goes bad
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| 7:45:45 PM | TheFu | Tied to the close-up shot.
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| 7:45:57 PM | datamangler | audio must swich with video switch
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| 7:45:58 PM | TheFu | Yep - that shot drops Robbie's sound
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| 7:46:33 PM | MarshMan | better
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| 7:46:35 PM | BobK54 | we can hear you in that shot but I think its through Sashas mic
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| 7:46:40 PM | BobK54 | good now!!!
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| 7:46:44 PM | datamangler | audio was still usable
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| 7:46:45 PM | datamangler | yes
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| 7:46:52 PM | datamangler | much better
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| 7:46:53 PM | TheFu | yep.
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| 7:47:55 PM | ABQTKY | +SashaR - hundreds of short dropouts - two seconds or less each
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| 7:48:12 PM | agamotto | Wow... using drones to deliver blood to hospitals in Rwanda
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| 7:49:04 PM | TheFu | WiFi on the PI is about 100mbps according to testing - 5Ghz, line of site.
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| 7:49:30 PM | TheFu | Wired is testing to 230 Mbps ... which will be noticeable.
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| 7:49:58 PM | ABQTKY | RobbieF - how come I have HIGH CPU use. Both stuttering video and very poor keyboard response...with nothing else running...except for Ubuntu Mate.
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| 7:50:22 PM | agamotto | ABQTKY: Adobe Flash?
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| 7:51:00 PM | TheFu | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=raspberry-pi3bplus-wifi&num=2
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| 7:51:21 PM | TheFu | and https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=raspberrypi-3-bplus&num=1
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| 7:51:28 PM | BobK54 | I HAVE ONE!!! its still in the box..... :(
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| 7:51:32 PM | ABQTKY | No flash, agamotto.
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| 7:51:47 PM | TheFu | agamotto: Flash is dead.
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| 7:51:48 PM | agamotto | ABQTKY: Ok, so much for that idea :(
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| 7:52:04 PM | MarshMan | Ubuntu is a resource hog
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| 7:52:15 PM | TheFu | MarshMan: Depends.
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| 7:52:24 PM | TheFu | You can make it lean, if you like.
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| 7:52:30 PM | agamotto | I would think that Unity would be the true hog
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| 7:53:05 PM | MarshMan | agamotto: Agreed. I used to use Ubuntu but it got very sluggish
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| 7:53:15 PM | MarshMan | switched to Debian
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| 7:53:25 PM | MarshMan | SashaR: Good job!!
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| 7:53:58 PM | TheFu | You can use 50 other GUIs. Unity isn't the only option. And there is a fallback mode for Unity on 16.04 that is lite. 17.10 and later are Gnome3 by default ... which is also heavy.
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| 7:54:03 PM | agamotto | In Rwanda, the medical system is using drones to deliver medicines and blood to hospitals all over the country, using the cellular network to guide/navigate the drones. It has cut the waste of expired blood/medicine by nearly 60%.
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| 7:54:41 PM | agamotto | I am using XFCE with Ubunu on my current box
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| 7:55:00 PM | TheFu | If you want a lite distro - TinyCore. Fits in 12MB.
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| 7:55:14 PM | MarshMan | Duuuuuhhhhhhh!
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| 7:55:17 PM | TheFu | They have a bloated version that is 64MB.
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| 7:55:41 PM | datamangler | tinycore is very fast.
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| 7:55:54 PM | MarshMan | That Duh was for Zuckerberg
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| 7:56:04 PM | TheFu | Oops - I lied. http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/downloads.html 11 MB and 106MB.
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| 7:56:11 PM | lichenx1_ | AwesomeWM ftw
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| 7:58:31 PM | TheFu | I'm less worried about cloudy apps having the data I give them than I am about the data they are TAKING without my explicit permission - GPS locations, audio, friends info. That linking scares me.
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| 7:59:37 PM | lichenx1_ | my friend showed me an old vw bug on his phone.... outside aka at his work, I don't have a smart phone... I went home and saw the same ad lol
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| 8:00:04 PM | agamotto | Yep, which is one of the reasons I don't have any 'smart' stuff in my house
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| 8:00:24 PM | lichenx1_ | seems way too weird to be coincidence as crazy as it sounds (without a smart phone and seemingly no link to that data)
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| 8:01:45 PM | TheFu | That intel PPA for GPUs was missing for months already.
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| 8:02:30 PM | TheFu | When will AMD and nvidia play nice?
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| 8:03:00 PM | agamotto | The same day that Oracle goes public domain?
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| 8:03:25 PM | BobK54 | I updated DURING this webcast. I'm brave
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| 8:03:56 PM | BobK54 | or stupid... :)
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| 8:04:03 PM | agamotto | both
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| 8:04:09 PM | BobK54 | agreed!
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| 8:04:47 PM | TheFu | And we thought Facebook was bad?
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| 8:05:07 PM | agamotto | Anymore, I encrypt everything possible
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| 8:05:25 PM | TheFu | dropped?
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| 8:05:25 PM | lichenx1_ | stream blew up
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| 8:05:26 PM | Solbu | Stream died
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| 8:05:30 PM | fking | Stream gone
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| 8:05:33 PM | BobK54 | haha, that was inersting
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| 8:05:43 PM | TheFu | perhaps ...
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| 8:05:55 PM | TheFu | beer-o-clock.
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| 8:06:58 PM | BobK54 | beer-o-clock indeed! off to play with the grandkids before they have to go to bed. we get rid of them....cough....they go back home.....tomorrow
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| 8:09:14 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream is back.
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| 8:09:27 PM | lichenx1_ | yt back
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| 8:09:29 PM | TheFu | BobK54: be certain to get them excited so they can't sleep.
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| 8:09:47 PM | lichenx1_ | one more story lool
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| 8:12:21 PM | TheFu | Sasha has a 1060?
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| 8:13:18 PM | TheFu | DisplayPort? Huh?
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| 8:13:35 PM | TheFu | Don't have any of that.
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| 8:13:38 PM | agamotto | BobK54: Nyquil or Benadryl? chuckle
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| 8:14:21 PM | TheFu | agamotto: Nyquil is better for coughs.
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| 8:18:10 PM | TheFu | HTC should make a T-shirt with that and send it to Sasha!
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| 8:18:17 PM | TheFu | "Necessary"
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| 8:19:10 PM | TheFu | Same Bat time. Same Bat channel.
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| 8:19:16 PM | datamangler | good night :)
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| 8:21:08 PM | MarshMan | found a site that has the HTC Vive pro - Financing available
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| 8:21:35 PM | SashaR | Cool :) awesome!!!
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| 8:21:47 PM | skywriter64 |
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| 8:21:49 PM | MarshMan | $36.38 a month
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| 8:22:09 PM | SashaR | Good night everyone :) See you next week!!
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| 8:22:15 PM | TheFu | Or pay the electric or heating bill?
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| 8:22:17 PM | MarshMan | Nighty night
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| 8:22:55 PM | fking | BCNU
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| 8:24:02 PM | TheFu | Backups?
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| 8:24:10 PM | MarshMan | go get some french fries
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| 8:24:52 PM | RobbieF_ | I'm pretty sure you don't have to tell her twice :)
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| 8:24:55 PM | RobbieF_ | I want fries now!
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| 8:25:03 PM | MarshMan | me too
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| 8:25:18 PM | ABQTKY | agamoto, RobbieF keeps running his chair over the mic cable. 8-) Whoa, he moved the chair again! ...and again.
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| 8:25:18 PM | ABQTKY | Chag Sameach to anyone who knows what I just said!!
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| 8:25:23 PM | moes133 | on dvd?
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| 8:25:49 PM | MarshMan | https://www.vive.com/us/vive-pro-vr/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw-uzVBRDkARIsALkZAdmkb2I1m24Mosr8nMZwRiUQnPz-Rsrmhy_G2B_LhH4Oziy7b4Scvy4aAvyiEALw_wcB
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| 8:26:14 PM | ABQTKY | Wait a second, why did it take fifteen minutes for the chatroom to show my last...well, second to last post?????
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| 8:26:48 PM | RobbieF_ | thanks all
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| 8:26:53 PM | RobbieF_ | sorry for the techie issues
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| 8:26:57 PM | RobbieF_ | hopefully it wasn't too bad :)
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| 8:27:11 PM | MarshMan | evenly spaced breaks
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| 8:27:15 PM | MarshMan | :)
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| 8:29:55 PM | moes133 | all new pi b ?
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| 8:30:00 PM | agamotto | Hmmm, air-cooked fries
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| 8:30:15 PM | agamotto | Or, is that air-baked?
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| 8:30:45 PM | agamotto | RobbieF_: File under life happens
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| 8:31:14 PM | agamotto | That, or some desperate Russian hacker thinks you are a Canadian government propaganda machine
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| 8:31:34 PM | RobbieF_ | :)
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| 8:34:40 PM | agamotto | So, what else goes on today besides exciting news about drones in Rwanda?
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| 8:46:41 PM | Garbee | RobbieF_: Star Wars Last Jedi with commentary is super interesting.
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| 8:46:59 PM | Garbee | (That's mostly why I wasn't online for the show.)
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| 8:50:27 PM | agamotto | I saw it in the theater... I was pleasantly surprised
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| 8:51:13 PM | Garbee | I was so-so about it initially.
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| 8:51:19 PM | Garbee | Still am really.
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| 8:51:37 PM | Garbee | I think some of the choices are awful without context. The commentary provides a lot of that context.
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| 8:53:56 PM | moes133 | tx for info on facepage
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| 8:59:49 PM | agamotto | The only thing I would have changed about the movie is that I would have had Leia ram the mega-ship
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| 9:02:09 PM | Garbee | well, they wanted her for the next movie.
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| 9:02:21 PM | Garbee | Sadly, doesn't look like she'll have much face-time in it anymore.
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| 9:23:14 PM | agamotto | agreed
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| 9:23:26 PM | agamotto | Well, I am off to do some analog reading....
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