6:58:08 PM | Solbu | JWeston: Since his name is german for King, why not call him The King? :-)
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6:58:30 PM | benrob0329 | I squat at regular intervals anyways lol
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6:58:43 PM | TheFu | 18:58:38
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6:59:19 PM | TheFu | With an IRC client, there is a timestamp for each message.
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6:59:30 PM | MarshMan | RobbieF_: you're blocking the logo
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6:59:52 PM | TheFu | 10 sec
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7:04:13 PM | JWeston | hey BobK54
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7:04:52 PM | SashaR_ | MarshMan... it changes. Today was Sugar Sugar (if that's what its called)
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7:05:37 PM | MarshMan | SashaR_: :)
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7:06:06 PM | JWeston | when i work out i have the song "I've gotta head like a ping pong ball" from camp caraboo
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7:06:17 PM | SashaR_ | hahahaha
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7:06:23 PM | Solbu | Nice idea. Cat5 coin. :-)
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7:07:00 PM | alpeck | how many Cat5.coins to get a hug from SashaR_???
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7:07:24 PM | MarshMan | 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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7:07:45 PM | alpeck | I new it was going to be expensive
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7:07:48 PM | SashaR_ | :)
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7:08:06 PM | DogeJonkins | wow
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7:08:54 PM | JWeston | sashaR is too expensive....DogeJonkins left because of it :0(
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7:09:25 PM | alpeck | I think DogeJohkins just left to mine Cat5.coins
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7:09:29 PM | SashaR_ | Hey now.... I didn't set the price! I'm all for free hugs!
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7:09:54 PM | SashaR_ | But, we do need to ay the bills!!!
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7:10:01 PM | SashaR_ | pay
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7:10:08 PM | MarshMan | SashaR_: worth every coin
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7:11:19 PM | JWeston | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0wnBzTo1lA head like a ping pong ball song
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7:11:20 PM | alpeck | Another one gone to mine Cat5.coins
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7:11:54 PM | JWeston | anyone have any questions for Robert about blockchain?
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7:12:58 PM | MarshMan | JWeston: Re: that ping pong ball song, you need help.
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7:13:43 PM | JWeston | haha Marshman
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7:13:53 PM | MarshMan | :)
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7:14:10 PM | alpeck | stream down!!!
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7:14:17 PM | alpeck | youtube
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7:14:43 PM | MarshMan | you tube working for me
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7:14:58 PM | alpeck | it's back
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7:16:17 PM | miner4 | Is anyone else having trouble with the miner they set up for turtlecoin? Mine was working but for the last 4 days it keeps saying the hashes are accepted but then it says Boooo rather than Yay
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7:16:51 PM | JWeston | yeah miner4, the algorithm changed on the weekend and the miner has been updated. so you need to update
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7:16:55 PM | MarshMan | Have you upgraded to the latest
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7:16:59 PM | JWeston | are you running on linux or windows?
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7:17:09 PM | miner4 | ah right. Im on Ubuntu
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7:17:23 PM | MarshMan | you need 0.4.2
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7:17:36 PM | miner4 | Ok I'll have a look thanks
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7:17:54 PM | JWeston | as a result of the algo change, the hashrates have inceased as well
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7:18:16 PM | miner4 | that doesn't sound good
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7:18:23 PM | JWeston | for instance a raspberrypi 3 has gone from 6-9h/sec to 18h/s
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7:18:25 PM | TheFu | Banks have protections.
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7:18:39 PM | miner4 | Does that mean it generates less currency?
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7:19:09 PM | TheFu | JWeston: What legal protections are provided by crypt-currency exchanges?
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7:19:22 PM | miner4 | ah so its gone the other way and is better now then
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7:19:29 PM | Dennis_Kelley | JWeston what is the best way to upgrade to the latest?
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7:19:45 PM | MarshMan | miner4: it generates more but so does everyone else
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7:20:02 PM | miner4 | so it makes the currency worth less?
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7:21:04 PM | MarshMan | not necessarily. it just means when they divvy it up the pecentages are about the same
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7:21:25 PM | miner4 | ah ok
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7:21:37 PM | JWeston | in general it will also mean bigger payouts per day
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7:21:52 PM | TheFu | Is there a "best practices" document that people follow? So, keep private keys offline seems like 1.
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7:21:59 PM | MarshMan | Dennis_Kelley: check here: https://github.com/turtlecoin/turtlecoin/releases/tag/v0.4.2
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7:22:13 PM | JWeston | either more often payouts out or bigger paymetns depending on how your pool is set up
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7:23:26 PM | Nelson1 | This stuff is so fascinating
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7:24:02 PM | JWeston | two months ago cryptocurrency was like quantum mechanics for me....now im delving deeply into it. i love it
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7:24:14 PM | MarshMan | https://www.exodus.io/
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7:24:53 PM | TheFu | I'm liking Robert. Very grounded.
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7:25:06 PM | SashaR_ | Me too!
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7:25:09 PM | JWeston | indeeed
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7:25:18 PM | MarshMan | Very cool guy!!
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7:26:31 PM | TheFu | Print the private key and verify that some OCR can read it back in without errors.
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7:26:47 PM | alpeck | question...is your private key always the same or is there a new one for every exchange you do???
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7:27:45 PM | MarshMan | your private key doesn't change. each transaction creates a new hash for the ledger
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7:28:00 PM | JWeston | private key is unique to each wallet and currency i believe...atleast thats the way it is for me
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7:28:11 PM | alpeck | how long is the key???
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7:28:18 PM | JWeston | but like marshman said, it stays the same for the individual wallet and currency
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7:28:32 PM | TheFu | WhopperCoin? Comments?
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7:28:36 PM | JWeston | huge...i think mine is close to 40 characters
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7:28:49 PM | JWeston | takes forever to type out haha
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7:29:00 PM | MarshMan | TheFu: Big Mac coin
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7:29:10 PM | MarshMan | :)
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7:29:16 PM | TheFu | JWeston: Most of my online passphrases are over 50 random characters.
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7:29:28 PM | alpeck | that's only 320-bit. I thought it would be longer
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7:29:31 PM | TheFu | I'd hope the private key would be 4K or larger.
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7:29:41 PM | JWeston | yeah that sounds right. imm just guessing about the 40....its very long
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7:29:58 PM | BobK54 | feed cut off here in Kentucky
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7:30:00 PM | MarshMan | now stream is gone
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7:30:02 PM | miner4 | You can generate a wallet for turtlecoin offline (for security) using their githib page here: https://github.com/turtlecoin/paper-turtle
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7:30:30 PM | BobK54 | refresh...they're back!
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7:30:35 PM | MarshMan | Yup
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7:30:41 PM | MarshMan | thx
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7:31:22 PM | alpeck | stream has stopped 3 times since show has started...refresh recovers
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7:31:37 PM | TheFu | Pumping seems illegal. At least in the USA.
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7:32:07 PM | miner4 | its ok here in the UK. Its just getting up for work in the morning that will be the problem with the time difference!
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7:34:44 PM | Solbu | JWeston: Question for him: Is there an example of a punp-and-dump coin that people started to use, regardless of the dump?
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7:35:15 PM | Solbu | I.e. that is still operational, which was not intended to be used.
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7:40:51 PM | TheFu | Big brother likes the blockchain.
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7:41:39 PM | MarshMan | https://xentavo.com/
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7:42:20 PM | Nelson1 | Fantastic Guest Robbie !
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7:42:31 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Great Job!
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7:42:47 PM | MarshMan | Thumbs way up!!
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7:43:00 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Double Thumbs Up!
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7:43:49 PM | Dennis_Kelley | now that SashaR_ is ready!! LOL
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7:44:03 PM | Nelson1 | Amazing guest !
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7:44:10 PM | Dennis_Kelley | great and ready!!
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7:44:52 PM | RobbieF_ | hiya
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7:45:05 PM | MarshMan | some orange pop has caffeine
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7:45:09 PM | RobbieF_ | cheers everyone! Glad you enjoyed it
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7:45:17 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Thanks RobbieF_
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7:45:21 PM | Nelson1 | get rid of the brick
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7:45:23 PM | TheFu | Orange pop is good once every 3 yrs.
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7:45:35 PM | RobbieF_ | pictures will be post processed :D
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7:45:39 PM | MarshMan | maybe dog years
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7:45:53 PM | TheFu | Didn't we do this story last week?
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7:46:02 PM | RobbieF_ | nope
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7:46:25 PM | TheFu | Where's the USB port?
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7:46:53 PM | TheFu | Morse code then?
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7:47:08 PM | TheFu | thanks to the LED output?
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7:47:45 PM | TheFu | IoT that we can't see - is scary.
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7:49:08 PM | TheFu | THink Bourne Identity spying ...
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7:49:43 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Mind Blown!
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7:50:04 PM | TheFu | The I/O will be an issue.
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7:50:22 PM | MarshMan | you play the piano and the lights keep going on and off
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7:50:29 PM | Solbu | Hehe
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7:51:01 PM | alpeck | near field communications
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7:51:26 PM | TheFu | And wifi is secure ... uh ... not.
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7:51:55 PM | TheFu | NFC isn't really NFC. People have read those from 50ft away.
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7:52:37 PM | TheFu | Blutooth from 1500ft.
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7:55:00 PM | TheFu | RFID was read in 2010 from 217ft at DefCon. Just because they are advertised a useful for a few feet, doesn't mean they can't be read from much greater distances.
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7:56:02 PM | MarshMan | Inner ear connectivity? for a person with meniere's disease, like me, this is out of the question
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7:56:25 PM | Nelson1 | Fascinating Mr. Spock !!!!
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7:56:45 PM | TheFu | Spocks brain!
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7:57:28 PM | TheFu | s/ks/k's/
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7:57:32 PM | Nelson1 | That was the worst TOS episode ever !!!
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8:02:18 PM | TheFu | Someone uses it in their manufacturing control center.
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8:02:29 PM | MarshMan | i hear it when I try to get into the bios setup
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8:02:48 PM | RobbieF_ | I'll miss beep :(
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8:02:51 PM | RobbieF_ | I'm oldschool
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8:02:55 PM | TheFu | Beep does more that just 1 sound. Can control the length and pitch too.
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8:03:02 PM | Nelson1 | me too Robbie
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8:03:10 PM | RobbieF_ | I know, I know... just poking fun at how RIDICULOUS it is that it is exploited!
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8:03:23 PM | MarshMan | apple is calling its chip an olive
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8:03:25 PM | RobbieF_ | it's like finding out "poke" is a root level exploit.
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8:03:37 PM | TheFu | Well ... poke **is** root level.
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8:03:43 PM | RobbieF_ | haha
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8:03:45 PM | Nelson1 | Great show tonight !! very cool topics you guys are discussing
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8:04:19 PM | MarshMan | Apple will TOTALLY PROPRIETARY!!!!!
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8:04:32 PM | TheFu | I always think of the bad things new tech can do or be used for before getting excited too much.
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8:04:52 PM | TheFu | Apple is only 5% of Intel's clients.
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8:04:54 PM | MarshMan | Spectre and meltdown may destroy Intel
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8:06:44 PM | Nelson1 | i still love my blackberry !
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8:07:04 PM | TheFu | And Apple will put into all their contracts that anything made for them will not be provided to any other parties. Period. That means Apple replacement parts won't be cheap from anyone.
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8:07:07 PM | MarshMan | Rotary phones rule!!
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8:07:16 PM | Garbee | Well, I just Star Wars'ed right through the show.
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8:07:21 PM | Solbu | MarshMan: I still have one. :-)
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8:07:23 PM | TheFu | Nelson1: I miss my blackberry 950.
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8:07:35 PM | TheFu | Best thumb keyboard ever!
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8:08:26 PM | MarshMan | I had a 950 as well.
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8:08:31 PM | Nelson1 | i m using the blackberry keyone, best one on the market that is android
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8:09:05 PM | TheFu | I had one of every model from the 950 thru the Pearl - corporate. Also ran over 100 BES internall.y
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8:09:53 PM | Garbee | oh we can greenscreen Jeff's shirt for the whole episode in post.
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8:10:06 PM | Garbee | I think we can make him wear a pile of poo emoji...
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8:10:35 PM | MarshMan | That must be his Wednesday shirt
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8:10:40 PM | TheFu | Garbee: Or some movie characters???
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8:11:32 PM | Garbee | Speaking of movies, we could give him the Finn/Poe love jacket.
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8:11:58 PM | Garbee | In what game?
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8:12:23 PM | Solbu | Shall, we, play, a, game?
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8:12:32 PM | TheFu | Nice.
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8:13:01 PM | SashaR_ | Do any of you have VR capabilities, a steam account... and a need for friends?
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8:13:19 PM | Garbee | Good thinking Jeff on how to handle htat.
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8:13:22 PM | TheFu | SashaR_: Nope. Chromebook is my best GPU.
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8:13:38 PM | Garbee | Oh, it's just JWeston now.
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8:13:48 PM | Garbee | Too good for his first name I see.
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8:13:50 PM | TheFu | All my other systems barely have any GPU, if at all.
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8:13:53 PM | MarshMan | SashaR_: No, no and yes
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8:13:56 PM | SashaR_ | I, thanks to all of you, have a great computer
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8:14:14 PM | TheFu | SashaR_: We know.
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8:14:16 PM | TheFu | ;)
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8:14:29 PM | alpeck | great show
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8:14:49 PM | Nelson1 | GREAT SHOW ROBBIE
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8:14:49 PM | TheFu | Fun times!
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8:14:56 PM | Garbee | Have a good week SashaR_ and JWeston!
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8:14:59 PM | Garbee | Thanks for coming.
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8:15:25 PM | RobbieF_ | thanks everyone!
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8:15:29 PM | RobbieF_ | cheers Nelson1
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8:15:29 PM | TheFu | SashaR_: is looking a little pale.
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8:15:31 PM | SashaR_ | Thank you all... you are all so great :)
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8:15:42 PM | Garbee | The tan is slowly going away TheFu.
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8:15:45 PM | SashaR_ | hahaha... my tan is fading!
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8:15:48 PM | RobbieF_ | no dropouts tonight - wonderful!
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8:15:53 PM | SashaR_ | good night :)
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8:15:54 PM | TheFu | Beautiful, sunny weather here.
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8:16:02 PM | Garbee | RobbieF_: I wouldn't know. I just showed up. I'm a slacker.
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8:16:17 PM | Solbu | RobbieF_: I only had to restart the kodi stream 2 times. :-)
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8:16:19 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Great show RobbieF_
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8:16:38 PM | TheFu | Pollen count is huge,however. Extreme - 5,098.
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8:17:00 PM | TheFu | Highest levels since 2015.
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8:17:36 PM | TheFu | Solbu: Kodi stuttered once,but never dropped here.
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8:18:21 PM | Solbu | TheFu: Once it starts stuttering, I have to restart,. if not it wil stutter untill the end of the show.
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8:18:34 PM | Solbu | as in, I restart the stream, not the system.
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8:18:41 PM | TheFu | Solbu: Which platform? I'm on a pi v2.
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8:18:51 PM | Solbu | i7 laptop.
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8:18:58 PM | TheFu | OS?
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8:19:06 PM | Solbu | GNU :-)
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8:19:06 PM | TheFu | BSD something?
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8:19:14 PM | Solbu | Mageia 6.
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8:19:32 PM | Solbu | It is only the cat5 stream that does this.
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8:20:08 PM | Solbu | THe laptop is my dedicated media senter, connected to my big screen TV.
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8:20:11 PM | TheFu | I may have upped the caching on my kodi settings.
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8:20:33 PM | TheFu | An i7 for media? Seems wasteful when a $35 r-pi will do.
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8:20:44 PM | Solbu | TheFu: That just it, id doesn't use up the cache before stuttering.
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8:20:47 PM | Solbu | *it
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8:21:16 PM | Solbu | I use Kodi 17.3, as that is the latest for Mageia 6.
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8:22:16 PM | TheFu | I did a dist-upgrade last week. Older vp6 streams are crashing the system - like I have to reboot to get audio back. h.264 is perfectly fine, however.
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8:25:11 PM | Solbu | I do dist-upgrade on our servers several times a week.
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8:26:02 PM | Solbu | That way we are sure that any new updates which require new dependencies are also updated, and not requirering manual install afterwards..
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8:33:38 PM | Garbee | Solbu: How old is the OS ya'll are running?
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8:33:54 PM | Solbu | Garbee: REleased last year. :-)
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8:34:04 PM | Solbu | It is the latest Mageia releas.e
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8:34:08 PM | Garbee | Ubuntu (at least since 16.04) with `apt upgrade` installs new deps with it.
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8:34:13 PM | Garbee | Ah, mageia.
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8:34:25 PM | Solbu | I am one of the packagers.
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8:34:43 PM | Garbee | Cool
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8:35:00 PM | Garbee | I never really need to run `dist-upgrade` itself now I find.
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8:35:17 PM | Garbee | So just sounded odd to me that someone is still doing that one actively.
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8:36:14 PM | Garbee | I get to migrate from 16.04 servers to 18.04 at the end of this month.
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8:36:30 PM | Garbee | Already doing some initial Linode testing on a fresh VPS to get my software packages right.
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8:36:34 PM | Solbu | Garbee: A few months ago I switched my ssh update script to use «apt full-upgrade».
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8:38:00 PM | Solbu | I like apt's progress bar when installing packages.
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8:38:07 PM | Garbee | yea, full-upgrade is just dist-upgrade.
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8:38:11 PM | Garbee | Same function.
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8:38:27 PM | Garbee | I mostly use apt for the quicker to type stuff.
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8:38:42 PM | Garbee | Progress isn't too relevant unless I have *loads* of updates. Because stuff goes so quickly.
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8:38:51 PM | Solbu | But apt doesnt seem to have a «clean» target to clean the deb cache.
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8:41:24 PM | Garbee | Yea nope.
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8:41:40 PM | Garbee | I setup our old point-of-sale system as a local apt cache proxy.
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8:42:19 PM | Garbee | https://wiki.debian.org/AptCacherNg
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8:42:23 PM | Garbee | Using that software.
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8:42:43 PM | Solbu | That's no good for me. At home I have a fully local rsynced copy of the distro versions I use.
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8:42:47 PM | Garbee | Super easy to setup. and for the apt config on clients I have a script to test if the server is available. If it isn't, just go direct.
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8:43:15 PM | Garbee | I don't have that kind of HDD space available or bandwidth to mirror and keep updated.
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8:43:23 PM | Garbee | So the cache proxy method works much better.
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8:43:32 PM | Garbee | Since I'm only caching what I need specifically.
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8:43:45 PM | Solbu | du -h --max-depth=1 /lager/distros/mageia/
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8:43:45 PM | Solbu | 219G /lager/distros/mageia/5
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8:43:45 PM | Solbu | 154G /lager/distros/mageia/6
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8:44:10 PM | Solbu | And that is excluding the debug packages.
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8:44:14 PM | Garbee | The goal for me is, reduce bandwidth usage when updating multiple machines or re-installing. So it does it's job.
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8:44:39 PM | Solbu | My goal is to have the repo available if I for some reason lose my internet connection.
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8:44:53 PM | Solbu | I also have a copy of the source tree.
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8:44:56 PM | Garbee | Debian amd64 mirror size is: 284GB.
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8:45:07 PM | Garbee | THen add Canonical's custom bits on top, probably not too much more.
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8:45:27 PM | Garbee | But, as far as *HDD*'s laying around, I don't even have one that large that is reliable anymore.
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8:45:57 PM | Garbee | The only 3 that are large enough, are laptop sized drives and I don't feel like buying an adapter to get them into the box.
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8:46:18 PM | Garbee | Also, 284GB is 1/3rd of our monthly data cap.
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8:46:36 PM | Garbee | So just mirroring that kinda defeats the purpose of having a proxy cache.
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8:46:47 PM | Solbu | Norwegian ISPs don't have data caps.
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8:46:57 PM | Garbee | Yea yea, we're screwed here in 'murica. I know.
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8:47:02 PM | Solbu | :-)
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8:47:15 PM | Garbee | But, for my needs. The proxy cache is baller awesome. ;)
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8:47:34 PM | Solbu | Yea, a proxy is nice.
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8:48:06 PM | Solbu | I run privoxy, for the single purpose of blocking ads.
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8:49:10 PM | Garbee | I guess Reddit doesn't care about the accessibility issues too much. :/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/8b2ptl/accessibility_issues/
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8:49:31 PM | Solbu | I also have configured my bind instance on my gateway system (also running mageia) as the authorative server for the big ad domains, like doubleclick domains.
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8:49:40 PM | Garbee | No word back yet at all from the employees. While other posts have been responded to fairly promptly.
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8:53:41 PM | TheFu | I don't have any data cap.
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8:53:41 PM | Garbee | Oh well, I'm gonna head on off to bed.
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8:54:00 PM | TheFu | I also use apt-cacher-ng.
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8:54:00 PM | Garbee | Super tired from designing my new website's homepage today.
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8:54:09 PM | Garbee | ya'll have a goodnight.
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8:54:16 PM | TheFu | G'night.
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