| 6:58:08 PM | ABQTKY | The suspense is building!!! Will we will or will we won't have Cat5 tonight???
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| 6:58:15 PM | TheFu | Leaches work!
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| 6:58:21 PM | SashaR | we will!!!
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| 6:58:54 PM | TheFu | Lubbuck - dry
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| 6:59:12 PM | TheFu | So to maggots
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| 6:59:44 PM | TheFu | Same with ticks.
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| 6:59:57 PM | TheFu | What about chiggers?
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| 7:00:28 PM | TheFu | Sorry - I'm on a 15sec delay. ;(
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| 7:00:35 PM | orangeman | is there show tonight
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| 7:00:45 PM | TheFu | Yep.
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| 7:01:33 PM | RobbieF | Hiya!
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| 7:01:36 PM | TheFu | No! Chiggers burrow into your flesh - they are tiny. Basically, you cut off the air for a few days and they die.
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| 7:02:13 PM | orangeman | very very hot here like south france
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| 7:02:40 PM | TheFu | Pretty hot here too - rain cooled things down to 90.
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| 7:03:02 PM | TheFu | https://safesymptoms.com/are-chiggers-contagious/
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| 7:03:09 PM | orangeman | it never this hot here
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| 7:04:07 PM | TheFu | Speedtest? Speedtest?!
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| 7:04:40 PM | orangeman | has start ket
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| 7:04:51 PM | orangeman | has start yet
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| 7:05:05 PM | SashaR | yes!!! :)
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| 7:05:39 PM | orangeman | i cant get picture yet
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| 7:05:45 PM | fking | Nothing live or roku here.
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| 7:05:56 PM | SashaR | Is everyone else getting it?
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| 7:06:07 PM | orangeman | not live here
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| 7:06:12 PM | rd_blair | no
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| 7:06:13 PM | ABQTKY | Not just yet, SashaR
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| 7:06:20 PM | BobK54 | nothing here yet either
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| 7:06:23 PM | TheFu | All working for me - kodi.
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| 7:06:42 PM | ABQTKY | Soon we hope, real soon now...
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| 7:06:47 PM | TheFu | Bet it would be find on Roku too.
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| 7:06:59 PM | SashaR | I'll see if I can get Robbie on it!!!
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| 7:07:06 PM | TheFu | How r u trying to watch?
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| 7:07:34 PM | BobK54 | hit the link on the bottom of the cat.tv homepage
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| 7:07:37 PM | TheFu | Sorry, I type fast.
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| 7:07:42 PM | fking | Nothing on roku.
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| 7:08:15 PM | Guest_1852 | nothing on http://live.cat5.tv/
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| 7:08:50 PM | orangeman | STILL NOT LIVE HERE YET
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| 7:09:03 PM | TheFu | Sasha is taking notes and will let robbie know at the break.
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| 7:09:29 PM | SashaR | He knows now!!! It's coming!
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| 7:09:52 PM | TheFu | Odd that it works for kodi,but not roku?
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| 7:10:14 PM | TheFu | Robbie is going to push the button.
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| 7:10:34 PM | TheFu | Or the webpage.
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| 7:11:13 PM | SashaR | He is fixing it now...
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| 7:11:19 PM | TheFu | Not on webpage. Not working on Roku ... works find on kodi.
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| 7:11:29 PM | TheFu | Perhaps the DNS updates didn't get pushed out?
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| 7:11:39 PM | orangeman | DOES WORK http://live.cat5.tv/ HERE
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| 7:11:54 PM | albert3 | this works - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNUFXQSkWBw
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| 7:12:01 PM | Jeff_W | scabies....thats what tehye were TheFu
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| 7:12:15 PM | Jeff_W | yes we have chiggers too
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| 7:13:04 PM | SashaR | Orangeman... and everyone else, it's about to happen!
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| 7:13:09 PM | DBLK | roku is working
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| 7:13:13 PM | ABQTKY | SashaR - Youtube seems to work!
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| 7:13:17 PM | BobK54 | thanks albert3, now watching on youtube!
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| 7:13:28 PM | albert3 | NP
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| 7:13:32 PM | TheFu | Scabies sound like crabs.
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| 7:13:35 PM | ABQTKY | Is everyone having fun yet??
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| 7:13:37 PM | Jeff_W | yup
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| 7:13:40 PM | TheFu | er ... so I hear.
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| 7:13:49 PM | Guest_1852 | http://live.cat5.tv/ just gone live
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| 7:15:46 PM | TheFu | Remember re-IPing a company before NAT existed. Only 300 systems, what a pain.
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| 7:16:04 PM | TheFu | Every desktop and server had routable IPs.
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| 7:18:19 PM | jlim | Newsroom episodes 358 and 359 and returning 404 page not found in Kodi
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| 7:18:43 PM | jlim | SashaR: \o
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| 7:19:12 PM | jlim | RobbieF: Newsroom episodes 358 and 359 and returning 404 page not found in Kodi
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| 7:19:41 PM | TheFu | there's a live show happening now, so Robbie is a little busy.
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| 7:19:52 PM | jlim | SashaR: nice to see you again live.
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| 7:20:30 PM | SashaR | Thank you!! It's great to see you too :):)
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| 7:20:54 PM | Garbee | I'm around.
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| 7:21:19 PM | Garbee | I wish I didn't notice.
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| 7:21:24 PM | Garbee | My brain might thank me if I could.
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| 7:23:25 PM | Skywriter64 | Hi,everyone from Brooklyn,NY
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| 7:24:51 PM | jlim | RobbieF: you have been pushing my raspberrypi buttons lately. i am all fired up about pi projects lately.
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| 7:28:37 PM | Guest_1852 | @Jeff_W @RobbieF @SashaR check your pm's
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| 7:30:09 PM | SashaR | :)
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| 7:33:21 PM | TheFu | Plex is hard on storage. Beware if you leave the plex DB/files on the SD card.
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| 7:36:08 PM | SashaR | Hi Scorpio55
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| 7:36:10 PM | orangeman | MY PLEX BEEN RU 24 7 FOR 3MONTHS
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| 7:37:01 PM | Scorpio55 | Hi Sasha did you remember me lol
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| 7:37:05 PM | jlim | lol
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| 7:37:15 PM | orangeman | HI ROY SCORIPO55 MI0RTX
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| 7:37:35 PM | TheFu | My plex server uptime: 19:37:06 up 48 days
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| 7:38:05 PM | Scorpio55 | Hi orangeman de G7VBX/M0NWR
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| 7:38:31 PM | Garbee | 'ello gonva.
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| 7:38:33 PM | Scorpio55 | Hi Jeff
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| 7:38:36 PM | TheFu | e-sports? Like Elf Bowling?
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| 7:38:41 PM | Scorpio55 | Hi Robbie
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| 7:39:23 PM | jlim | SashaR: how have you been?
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| 7:43:30 PM | BobK54 | "Do you want to play a game?
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| 7:44:00 PM | alpeck | 180 years of game play does not equal 180 years of knowledge
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| 7:44:21 PM | TheFu | Not for humans.
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| 7:44:59 PM | TheFu | They should get these AIs making room-temperature fusion work.
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| 7:45:17 PM | alpeck | TheFu: yes
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| 7:45:57 PM | alpeck | if i played a game for 180 years i am sure i could kick AI ass
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| 7:46:26 PM | alpeck | only problem is it took me 180 years
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| 7:47:52 PM | napa_polarbear | Jeff, what was that game site 4 card?
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| 7:48:47 PM | Jeff_W | odroidarena.com
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| 7:52:13 PM | TheFu | There's only 3 RAM makers.
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| 7:52:57 PM | TheFu | China is suing some over the price fixing RAM and trying to gain access to their IP. Making fast RAM is hard.
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| 7:53:46 PM | Jeff_W | http://odroidarena.com/downloads/
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| 7:53:54 PM | Jeff_W | thats where you can get the iso
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| 7:54:22 PM | TheFu | https://www.techrepublic.com/article/samsung-hynix-micron-sued-for-dram-price-fixing-that-could-have-raised-pc-prices/
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| 7:55:49 PM | TheFu | "here are only a handful of semiconductor manufacturers with the capability to produce DRAM chips, and they are Micron (Crucial), Samsung, and Hynix."
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| 7:56:17 PM | TheFu | ref: http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/store-truth-about-memory-manufacturers
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| 7:59:52 PM | Cee_128d | I'm betting that they'll upgrade them to Windows 7 that support ends in Jan 2020.
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| 8:00:07 PM | alpeck | linux
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| 8:01:15 PM | TheFu | Banks need to check the entire communications line ... starting from the mainframe all the way out to the ATM.
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| 8:02:08 PM | Cee_128d | RHEL or Centos FTW
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| 8:02:18 PM | TheFu | I've worked on system upgrades that took 5 yrs. Linux doesn't make it much cheaper.
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| 8:02:44 PM | TheFu | The cost of the software isn't really a consideration.
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| 8:03:07 PM | TheFu | The software in the end-user device.
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| 8:03:09 PM | Gopher | They may have/had extended MS support beyond mainstream EOL if they paid for it
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| 8:04:09 PM | albert3 | this is from 2008 - https://www.atmmarketplace.com/articles/brazilian-banks-look-to-linux-for-atms/
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| 8:04:11 PM | TheFu | I was asked to swap out 25K laptops from Windows to Linux. The cost of all the other software and integration to other systems was beyond prohibitive.
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| 8:04:25 PM | albert3 | Brazilian banks look to Linux for ATMs
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| 8:04:53 PM | TheFu | Brazil has govt subsidies to avoid external tech.
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| 8:06:07 PM | Gopher | How many ATMs are going to open a malicious webpage or email
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| 8:06:27 PM | TheFu | Brazil has home-grown voting machines too - they use Java.
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| 8:07:17 PM | TheFu | Gopher - the ATMs here show ads. I bet those are pulled over the internet.
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| 8:07:53 PM | alpeck | I agree SashaR, it is the job of our government to protect us
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| 8:08:35 PM | Gopher | Is that the US TheFu. Why does that not surprise me
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| 8:09:29 PM | Gopher | I agree TheFu . That would be a vector
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| 8:09:55 PM | Cee_128d | alpeck, it's the responsibility of the individual to protect themselves from every day things. The Government is there to protect us from bigger things like Wars. It's called personal responsibility.
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| 8:10:28 PM | Gopher | You have to be a twat to connect an ATM to the internet
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| 8:10:45 PM | TheFu | How do you think ATM transactions happen?
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| 8:11:15 PM | Gopher | A private network
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| 8:11:17 PM | Cee_128d | Gopher, then how do the ATM's connect to the Banks for transaction authorizations? Phone calls?
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| 8:11:20 PM | TheFu | ATM machines are privately owned in many parts of the world.
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| 8:11:39 PM | alpeck | tell me Cee_128d, can you build a car baby seat and market it without testing for compliance
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| 8:12:18 PM | TheFu | alpeck - yes, in many countries that is perfectly legal.
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| 8:12:46 PM | alpeck | not in Canada and US though
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| 8:12:58 PM | TheFu | Not in CA,US,EU,JP,AU,... but lots of places.
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| 8:13:00 PM | alpeck | and i am sure in the EU
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| 8:13:30 PM | Cee_128d | alpeck, no. But I can do my own research to find out which ones are safe and which ones aren't. When you see a deal that's too good to be true then you have to be an idiot to buy it. That's what I was refering to.
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| 8:13:47 PM | TheFu | Regulations are good for things that are 5 yrs old and have proven they ARE dangerous.
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| 8:13:48 PM | albert3 | It is a joke that anyone is using a legacy operating system like windows in the year 2018
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| 8:14:07 PM | Jeff_W | i agree albert3
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| 8:14:45 PM | TheFu | Tesla bought a solar panel company that had too many manufacturing locations.
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| 8:15:19 PM | alpeck | but the court system will side with the idiot Cee_128d
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| 8:15:44 PM | Cee_128d | alpeck, not always.
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| 8:16:37 PM | TheFu | SashaR - if nobody is buying.
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| 8:17:01 PM | Cee_128d | alpack, and even it the court does it won't bring back a love one who was killed by the poorly designed and manfactured product. Personal Responsibility.
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| 8:17:04 PM | TheFu | They need to make just as much as they sell.
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| 8:17:36 PM | Garbee | Cee_128d: In the US they will always, *unless* the situation is the person in commission of the sale explicitly said something was wrong/untested whatever. Unless it was clear in the sale, there is assumed fault on the supplier.
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| 8:18:06 PM | TheFu | Garbee "As-Is"
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| 8:18:11 PM | Cee_128d | alpack My father taught me that I might have the right away on the street, but what good is it if I'm dead trying to enforce that.
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| 8:18:18 PM | alpeck | That is why our government has to hold importers to the same standard as a home land manufacturer
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| 8:18:20 PM | Garbee | TheFu: That doesn't mean everything people think it does.
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| 8:18:53 PM | alpeck | true Cee_128d, not much good if you are dead right
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| 8:19:09 PM | Cee_128d | aplack, I live in the US and have for over 60 years. Trust me that the courts do NOT always side with the individual over the corporation.
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| 8:19:19 PM | Garbee | In many cases there are assumed warranties and/or expectations that you can't take away with "as-is". Unless, as said before, you explicitly state those issues in the commission of the sale.
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| 8:19:48 PM | TheFu | Garbee that is highly dependent on state laws, which vary wildly.
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| 8:20:17 PM | Garbee | Yup, but there are also some federal laws on sales as well.
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| 8:20:52 PM | Garbee | But, in *many* cases, means most states have some form of laws around it. Few don't have some kind of consumer protection.
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| 8:21:00 PM | TheFu | People do things because they can.
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| 8:21:09 PM | alpeck | Cee_128d, I live in Canada for the past 58 years. I like to think I am intelligent but the sad fact is as a society we seem to be getting dumber.
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| 8:22:18 PM | Garbee | Like most states have laws protecting consumers who buy used vehicles from dealerships from certain safety problems shortly after buying them. But those laws don't apply to private sales for the same issues. Because any business is expected to provide a safely operable vehicle. Where private parties aren't trusted with the same duty.
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| 8:22:47 PM | Garbee | Sale protection laws are very much all about the exact context and the state.
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| 8:23:01 PM | Garbee | But, generally, things err to business fault over consumer fault.
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| 8:23:23 PM | Cee_128d | alpack Same here in the US. Probably a third of the people I deal with on a daily basis don't know enough to have been able to graduate 2nd grade back when I was a kid.
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| 8:23:24 PM | alpeck | +Garbee, in Canada you can not sell a baby seat at a yard/garage sale as it is against the law.
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| 8:23:59 PM | alpeck | it might not meet current government standards
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| 8:24:09 PM | Garbee | Or just be broken in a subtle way.
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| 8:24:15 PM | TheFu | Roy?
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| 8:24:16 PM | Garbee | Honestly, that's a regulation I can get behind.
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| 8:24:44 PM | TheFu | Is it still sunning out there?
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| 8:24:51 PM | Garbee | No drops or lags in quality at all tonight.
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| 8:24:56 PM | Garbee | Fantastic new internet service.
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| 8:24:56 PM | TheFu | sunny?
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| 8:25:16 PM | TheFu | Where's Solbu? He's got the stuttering usually.
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| 8:25:47 PM | Scorpio55 | MI0RTX 73 G7VBX
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| 8:25:49 PM | Garbee | SashaR: When ya'll do his cake, switch the numbers!
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| 8:25:49 PM | alpeck | who is watching on Youtube...max quality was only 720p tonight
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| 8:25:58 PM | Cee_128d | My daughter's insurance company wouldn't insure her if she used her 3 year old car seat with her last child. They wouldn't take the chance.
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| 8:26:32 PM | alpeck | insure her to drive her car Cee_128d???
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| 8:27:11 PM | Cee_128d | alpack, Yes.
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| 8:27:31 PM | alpeck | good for them Cee_128d
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| 8:27:36 PM | Garbee | They want all the latest safety stuff and to make sure it is all fresh.
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| 8:27:53 PM | alpeck | btw it is ALPECK not ALPACK
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| 8:27:58 PM | alpeck | hahaha
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| 8:28:05 PM | Garbee | What did Robbie just say about me?
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| 8:28:08 PM | Garbee | Ya'll laughed way too hard.
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| 8:28:12 PM | SashaR | Thank you all once again for being here :)
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| 8:28:17 PM | alpeck | nice chatting everyone
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| 8:28:30 PM | Garbee | See you SashaR. Have a great week.
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| 8:28:57 PM | Cee_128d | Sorry. I have cataracts and can't see the screen very well, plus still recovering from a series of strokes so I don't type very well either.
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| 8:29:19 PM | alpeck | hahaha Cee_128d, nice chatting
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| 8:29:26 PM | alpeck | take care
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| 8:29:37 PM | Garbee | Cee_128d: Depending on your client type the first 2 or 3 characters then press tab.
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| 8:29:37 PM | Cee_128d | You too. have a good week folks.
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| 8:29:57 PM | Garbee | It should cycle through nicks matching and with 2 characters for his name you should pretty much have it.
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| 8:30:08 PM | Garbee | At least, *most* IRC clients do it. Not all.
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| 8:30:19 PM | Garbee | Just one method to help possibly.
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| 8:30:27 PM | Cee_128d | +Garbee, nice trick. I'll have to remember that.
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| 8:30:43 PM | Garbee | Enjoy yourselves.
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| 8:30:45 PM | alpeck | I use that all the time Cee_128d
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| 8:31:03 PM | Garbee | I'm off to eat some pizza rolls and watch another episode of Sense8 possibly before bed.
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| 8:31:05 PM | alpeck | good by all
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| 8:31:33 PM | Cee_128d | Well folks, I have to go install an SSD at the church and update to the new EasyWorship.
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