Chat Logs for Episode 565 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 91 Posts:TheFu
With 44 Posts:MarshMan
With 44 Posts:Lyndon
With 41 Posts:Solbu
With 39 Posts:SashaR


Chat Logs:

6:58:17 PMMarshMan RobbieF: A buddy of mine may be GIVING me a Dell Poweredge 2950 blade server with dual Xeon 3Ghz processors and 32G of RAM. I'll know Friday night
6:58:45 PMTheFu Well, you have more than 1 button, unlike GeorgeJ
6:58:49 PMMarshMan older yes
6:59:04 PMMarshMan true
6:59:18 PMTheFu 2950 were 2006-ish
6:59:24 PMMarshMan key word was GIVING
6:59:26 PMTheFu and noisy
6:59:30 PMABQTKY Hi, there, SashaR!!
6:59:41 PMGuest_4061 doom server?
6:59:48 PMMarshMan TheFu: Noisy YES!
7:00:14 PMMarshMan his wife forced him to put them in the garage. he had two
7:00:16 PMorangeman it like concord take off
7:00:18 PMTheFu I gave away my servers years ago ... for 2 Core i5 systems instead.
7:00:26 PMMarshMan 3.0
7:00:33 PMSkywriter64 How many cores in that server?
7:00:41 PMMarshMan we have 7 of them in our office
7:00:43 PMTheFu 2U
7:00:51 PMGuest_4061 i've heard concorde on take off in Birmingham.... it was noisey
7:00:53 PMbigkitty yep
7:00:55 PMABQTKY Dell, 2950? They even drive me nuts with the noise! RobbiF
7:00:55 PMorangeman i have save thing my self for client how did want the server
7:01:46 PMGuest_4061 we aren't allow in our server rooms/datacentres without ear defenders anymore...
7:02:15 PMorangeman it sit in our spair room with door shut it make lot noise
7:02:30 PMGuest_4061 and heat
7:02:38 PMMarshMan it will go in the basement
7:03:19 PMTheFu I've been removing power hungry computers and going for 65W and less systems the last 5 yrs. Performance of lower-power systems is good.
7:03:19 PMLyndon hello all =)
7:03:21 PMSolbu Hehe. Best opening, yet. :-)
7:03:29 PMorangeman i dont heat room it has 2 300w power supplys
7:03:35 PMLyndon I did =D
7:04:00 PMLyndon i bought a trailer hitch receiver!
7:04:28 PMGuest_4061 oldroid go
7:04:32 PMABQTKY TheFu, my 65watt AMD machine has a 'slow it down' item in the 'BIOS,' so cheapskate me set it for 45 watts!!
7:04:54 PMTheFu My AMD box is 12.5W.
7:05:14 PMTheFu Usually pulling 7W - it is a router.
7:05:35 PMTheFu 64-bit with AMD-V support.
7:06:13 PMABQTKY TheFu, my other one has a 25Watt CPU, never noticed an undervolt setting. Maybe I'll take another look.
7:08:22 PMTheFu DNA testing scares me, mainly because in the USA, things can be used by insurance companies to raise your rates. They are using social media alrady.
7:09:48 PMTheFu https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/10/medical-data-multibillion-dollar-business-report-warns
7:10:21 PMLyndon social media makes for a great background check for some people
7:10:34 PMSashaR Scares Dave too... which is really why it didn't happen :)
7:11:02 PMTheFu Kodi stream got stuck 2x so far, for about 7 sec.
7:11:15 PMLyndon some people's friends scare me..
7:11:24 PMTheFu SashaR, But I thought Canada had the best "free" health insurance?
7:11:47 PMRobbieF Yeah... I'm getting worried about this broadcast server... even the interview had trouble triggering
7:12:03 PMSolbu TheFu: I noticed that too.
7:12:04 PMSashaR Life insurance companies would likely raise some rates.... our health care is pretty rockin though!!
7:12:25 PMTheFu Using your phone number with online accounts isn't a good idea:
7:12:26 PMTheFu https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vbqax3/hackers-sim-swapping-steal-phone-numbers-instagram-bitcoin
7:12:32 PMSolbu TheFu: I restarted my kodi stream in case it was here.
7:14:46 PMRobbieF It is possible, because we're having to record to a SATA SSD, that the recorder cannot keep up.
7:14:55 PMLyndon ha. I thought that was my mouse pointer on the screen. I went to move it and then realized it was in the recording
7:14:58 PMRobbieF Patrons know about it.
7:15:08 PMRobbieF Ha Lyndon. Moved it.
7:15:14 PMLyndon thanks
7:15:20 PMRobbieF Skype needs to make mouse cursor go away on full screen
7:15:38 PMTheFu Sophisticated attackers are cloning cell phone SIMs and stealing the number, then using that to clear bank accounts,take over online accounts, etc.
7:16:01 PMSolbu Skype need to create a Free client (As in Free licensing)
7:16:15 PMRobbieF Skype = Microsoft.... hehe Good luck with that.
7:16:22 PMLyndon thats crazy TheFu
7:16:29 PMLyndon wow
7:16:34 PMTheFu Or use Jitsi.
7:16:57 PMTheFu Lyndon, bookmark that link I posted.
7:17:01 PMSolbu … to comumicate with a skype server? Good luck with that. :-)
7:17:02 PMTheFu It is scary.
7:17:14 PMLyndon i did =)
7:17:27 PMTheFu Ah ... yep.
7:17:32 PMTheFu Very scary.
7:18:31 PMTheFu Wish that telecoms did more to assert the caller really is the correct person.
7:18:57 PMTheFu Some of my credit cards have laughable verification security.
7:19:19 PMSolbu It is not possible to assertain who is calling.
7:20:04 PMLyndon I've called as my wife once to cancel one of her accounts. i asked her first ofcourse.
7:20:05 PMTheFu Solbu, especially when there are insiders selling the data for $100.
7:20:23 PMMarshMan I occasionally get calls from myself
7:20:39 PMLyndon if you know enough info about somone, you can really do anything
7:21:11 PMRobbieF Phishing is scary too Lyndon, if they know enough about the person receiving the call, they can be incredibly convincing.
7:21:12 PMTheFu I got a call from my new landlord last fall. ... which was funny since we own the house we live in.
7:21:26 PMSashaR ugh... so scary
7:21:34 PMSolbu MarshMan: At work we used to get calls from the phone we answered. After a while I added our number on the phone and named the contact «Scam, hang up»
7:21:37 PMRobbieF TheFu, 1 in 4 people will fall for it...
7:21:43 PMLyndon yes RobbieF
7:22:06 PMMarshMan Solbu: HaHaha, I've done the same
7:22:22 PMRobbieF I bought a car as SashaR
7:22:30 PMSashaR hey now!!!!
7:22:33 PMSolbu Hehe
7:22:37 PMRobbieF Disguised my voice as Darth Vader.
7:22:37 PMTheFu Golf clap for the guest.
7:22:45 PMSashaR ba ha ha ha
7:23:21 PMABQTKY RobbieF, Camaro or a Vette?? Sasha already has a Spark, so you can't get one of those.
7:23:31 PMTheFu Use different email accounts for different needs online. Social media should never use the same email address as your bank.
7:23:34 PMRobbieF Lambo.
7:23:51 PMTheFu NSX.
7:23:58 PMLyndon I preally hope google never gets hacked.... that would be very bad for me
7:24:03 PMSashaR That's smart and a little late for me at this point TheFu
7:24:16 PMSolbu TheFu: I do that. I currently have 137 email addresses on my mail server.
7:24:27 PMRobbieF all with the same password :P
7:24:28 PMTheFu SashaR, create a new email for banking/brokerage and change it over ASAP.
7:24:28 PMABQTKY RobbieF, betcha can't spell the full name of that one!!!
7:24:35 PMRobbieF Lamborgini?
7:24:36 PMSashaR Will do!
7:24:48 PMRobbieF Lamborghini - thank you firefox
7:24:51 PMTheFu Solbu, I don't know how many addresses I have.
7:24:52 PMRobbieF lol
7:24:57 PMABQTKY RobbieF, I think you're one letter short.
7:25:05 PMRobbieF No self-respecting miner says anything longer than Lambo
7:25:12 PMRobbieF :P
7:25:22 PMTheFu SashaR, ProtonMail is a reputable provider.
7:25:30 PMgarywhite What about the Audi from the iron man movies?
7:25:36 PMSashaR ProtonMail... okay :)
7:25:44 PMTheFu Audi makes very pretty vehicles!
7:25:57 PMRobbieF Our first car was an Audi
7:26:07 PMSashaR I refuse to love anything but Sparks at this point!
7:26:23 PMTheFu My first car was a POS Mercury Lynx built from parts.
7:26:23 PMRobbieF sparklyballs - you hear that?
7:26:35 PMSashaR hahaha
7:26:53 PMABQTKY SashaR, good idea. nice machine...with very NICE gas mileage, too!
7:27:01 PMTheFu It didn't have a thermostat ... didn't notice until a trip to Colorado.
7:27:10 PMMarshMan After watching what all of my friends went thru, I bought a NEW Nissan as my first car
7:27:27 PMSashaR My passwords used to be the names of popular bands that had numbers in their names... I thought I was smart
7:27:36 PMSolbu I remember back when I had Windows 98. I hacked the registry so one was forced to have an account. (MustBeValidated-string somewhere) I had «DF» as password. One time a friend was visiting and I had to login. So I pyped «DF
7:27:56 PMTheFu SashaR, random and long. You should only need to memorize 3-4 passwords. The rest, you shouldn't know.
7:28:19 PMSashaR I am learning... slowly, but learning!
7:28:20 PMMarshMan I know 2 passwords
7:28:33 PMTheFu I actually don't know the login names for my bank or brokerage accounts.
7:28:52 PMTheFu Each has a different email address.
7:29:03 PMLyndon well thats better than using your family's names SashaR
7:29:05 PMSolbu SashaR: Don't use a passWORD, use a pass-PHRASE. Use a short sentence, without spaces.
7:29:13 PMTheFu I never use my real-name for logins.
7:29:33 PMSashaR where are all of you during all the bad decisions I make daily?
7:29:34 PMgarywhite On an unrelated note, free fries at McDonald's every Friday with the app
7:29:36 PMSolbu TheFu: What? You mean to tell me «TheFu» is Not your name?
7:29:36 PMLyndon Hexadecimal is the best
7:29:38 PMRobbieF TheFu isn't your real name?!
7:29:39 PMSolbu ;-)
7:29:43 PMLyndon in my opinion
7:30:05 PMMarshMan dodecadecimal would be better
7:30:24 PMSashaR what are these words you are using?
7:30:29 PMTheFu RobbieF, Nope. Shocking, I know. But even my "real" accounts elsewhere use different aliases.
7:30:42 PMRobbieF TheFu2
7:30:47 PMLyndon 2 Pies 6 Dogs 7 Cats ...
7:30:57 PMMarshMan Words that make you go hmmmmm
7:31:06 PMTheFu RobbieF, only on IRC, if I don't connect using a BNC.
7:31:10 PMSashaR Wednesdays in a nutshell
7:31:10 PMLyndon 2P6D7C
7:31:21 PMLyndon stuff like that
7:31:25 PMTheFu Lyndon, that isn't long enough to be secure.
7:31:31 PMSashaR Thank you :)
7:31:39 PMMarshMan q-08mq=3098-38v989v-m,02M-9847V2NM92UMN90M,4-M258VM34,8VV,-OUNVHTPWH[OTH[0y[hh]oirjg]ihu
7:31:42 PMLyndon i know, just an example
7:31:44 PMSashaR I could so that!!
7:31:50 PMRobbieF password123
7:31:52 PMSashaR do, not so
7:31:56 PMTheFu If you are random, 16+ characters are enough. If you use words, need 30+ characters.
7:32:04 PMSolbu SashaR: As an example: "Thisismypassword" is a better password than pimekEf0, as it's easier to remember and it doesnt exist in any dictionary. Not untill now at least. ;-)
7:32:42 PMSashaR I'll just do MArshMAnTheFuLyndon :)
7:32:49 PMSolbu Hehe
7:32:52 PMTheFu There are articles by professional passwork cracking teams ... they know about the "sentence" things already.
7:33:01 PMRobbieF and your recipe can just be "Name of favorite people"
7:33:13 PMSolbu SashaR: That is actually a secure password, if you didnt' publish it here. :-)
7:33:14 PMMarshMan My name was first!!
7:33:15 PMSashaR And I'll change all the as to @s
7:33:19 PMTheFu SashaR, now that you've posted it, it isn't good. Also, never begin with caps or end with numbers of punctuation.
7:33:31 PMSashaR so many rules!!!
7:33:43 PMTheFu L33T speak is automatically checked too.
7:34:03 PMSashaR ugh... I will get it right eventually!
7:34:05 PMRobbieF so p455w0rd123 is best
7:34:07 PMRobbieF LOL
7:34:09 PMTheFu Use a good password manager and let it make a 55 character random password for each account.
7:34:09 PMGarbee SashaR: and most rules are bad rules.
7:34:16 PMLyndon hahaha
7:34:26 PMLyndon 1qaz!QAZ
7:34:37 PMLyndon i used that one
7:34:42 PMSashaR I will check my DNA. then use it as my password!!
7:34:46 PMSolbu SashaR: Steve Gibson of GRC, who is the one behind the podcast «Security Now» says that it is the lengt of the password that determins if it's secure, not what it actually is. So the longer the better.
7:34:51 PMLyndon not now ofcourse
7:34:53 PMTheFu Really, using passwords for authentication is a failure for online accounts.
7:34:54 PMGarbee Password advice is 99% psuedo science.
7:35:18 PMSashaR I clearly need to get mine far more under control
7:35:23 PMRobbieF ... and ever changing Garbee
7:35:35 PMRobbieF that's part of why I thought the biometrics discussion would be fun
7:36:02 PMTheFu Garbee, password crackers are driving the rules using real password databases leaked over the years. Billions of leaked passwords are whatthey check first.
7:36:02 PMGarbee Solbu: it is in some cases. But now with a certain software and hardware setup even up to 55 or so characters, iirc, isn't enough.
7:36:07 PMLyndon i don't understand small e-stores
7:36:36 PMSashaR luckily I don't have social media any longer.... although I suspect my FB account my just be sleeping... and I need to log into it to delete it. It occurs to me that I still have contact via Messenger, when I ought not to
7:36:44 PMGarbee RobbieF: I'll shoot you an email if I remember when my head stops hurting about some cool new web authentication stuff.
7:37:01 PMRobbieF :) K buddy
7:37:07 PMTheFu Passwords on mobile devices are just scary. I don't consider any tablet/smartphone secure enough to use with passwords.
7:37:51 PMGarbee It's all shipping now too in all major browsers. So it's not a "in 3 years" kind of thing.
7:37:52 PMTheFu U2F is reasonable. Usually for a 2nd factor.
7:38:41 PMLyndon Hey, thats a nice Blue shirt you got there
7:38:50 PMTheFu Garbee, were you on something newer?
7:39:02 PMMarshMan yup
7:39:10 PMABQTKY ditto
7:39:19 PMSolbu yes, froze for a few seconds.
7:39:24 PMTheFu yes.freeze
7:39:28 PMTheFu .5 sec
7:39:30 PMGarbee SashaR simple trick though, pick a random set of symbols you can remember. I do my set as a pattern. Start your password with that, do the word or phrase, then end with the set of symbols again.
7:39:56 PMABQTKY SashaR you have to spell it out...the entire thing!!
7:40:05 PMGarbee Easy buffer to pad it out more, and more focus on using a unique phrase/word on each site.
7:40:21 PMGarbee But really... Password Manager and try to not use password where possible.
7:40:33 PMSolbu My password is, full of stars.
7:40:38 PMMarshMan 50
7:40:52 PMGarbee Solbu: that's because of all the curse words being filtered.
7:40:52 PMTheFu Garbee, yep - use a password manager.
7:41:01 PMTheFu 50 states.
7:41:18 PMSolbu Garbee: Ahh. I have always wondered about that. :D
7:41:20 PMSolbu hehe
7:41:24 PMGarbee Wait, newer about what TheFu ?
7:41:25 PMTheFu and a few territories like Puerto Rico and Guam.
7:41:36 PMMarshMan SashaR: That's ok most Americans would get it wrong too
7:41:57 PMABQTKY Not quite, SashaR, also not 57 states like someone we won't mention said a few years ago.
7:41:57 PMABQTKY SashaR, how many of us Yanks can spell Saskatchewan??
7:42:14 PMTheFu I might be able to name 8 Canadian provinces. Maybe.
7:42:14 PMGarbee 48 states. Then we have some islands and a pimple beside Canada.
7:42:25 PMMarshMan ABQTKY: hOW MANY WANT TO?
7:42:34 PMABQTKY SaahaR, how many of us Yanks ever heard of Nunavut?
7:42:39 PMTheFu Alaska isn't exactly a pimple.
7:42:59 PMGarbee It's the pimple mascara won't hide.
7:43:09 PMTheFu RAID0 for SSDs?
7:43:39 PMTheFu Alaska is amazing.
7:43:58 PMGarbee I'm going to go make some grilled cheeses and soup. I feel terrible.
7:44:04 PMMarshMan SashaR: I love how you nod and agree when RobbieF splains things
7:44:15 PMTheFu SashaR, Tell RobbieF to use RAID zero with multiple SSDs.
7:45:18 PMMarshMan RobbieF: make sure you change your shirt again
7:45:25 PMTheFu Garbee, toasted cheese like the brits do it?
7:46:22 PMMarshMan oh no, the busy ruler again!
7:46:25 PMSashaR mmm grilled cheese
7:46:28 PMSkywriter64
7:46:44 PMSashaR haha... that is one crazy ruler!!
7:47:47 PMSashaR I'm working towards a bit of a weight goal, so cheese is not a constant for me as much as an exception!
7:48:10 PMLyndon would u clasifiy it as a ruler or a multi tool?
7:48:25 PMSolbu robbie should hold the items a few inches longer into the table.
7:48:28 PMMarshMan SashaR: robbie is going off screen
7:49:02 PMSolbu Debian install, yey.
7:49:24 PMLyndon my precious!
7:51:06 PMMarshMan centimeters
7:51:25 PMSolbu SashaR: Ask him if these devices can be powered by POE (Power over Ethernet).
7:51:26 PMMarshMan and he's Canadian!!
7:52:04 PMTheFu ROC-RK3328-CC?
7:53:59 PMMarshMan RobbieF: I opened the floodgates
7:54:11 PMSolbu The Cable Guy.
7:54:14 PMMarshMan I do like the PINE boards
7:55:32 PMSolbu SashaR: One of the dorm room employees where I whent to school used to drink coffee in order to go to sleep.
7:55:54 PMTheFu VP9, h.265, and h.264 support in HW. Nice!
7:56:39 PMSolbu RobbieF: No problem with the stream. :-)
7:57:00 PMTheFu VR goggles
7:57:14 PMMarshMan Looks like no PoE for the PInes
7:57:51 PMTheFu MarshMan, yep. No attic deployments for me. But as a 4k media center, very interesting.
7:58:51 PMSolbu A friend of mine bought a 32 port POE switch at a flea market, for aprox $150.
7:59:30 PMLyndon think of how much realestate we could reclaim with all the roads that will be unused
7:59:40 PMTheFu Flying cars means more deaths from stuff dropping out of the sky too. Anyone who hasn't crashed their drone, raise your hand.
7:59:55 PMTheFu And think of the noise!
7:59:57 PMSolbu I haven't crashed a drone yet.
8:00:17 PMSolbu It might be doe to the fact that i haven't tried one yet. ;_)
8:00:21 PMSolbu *due
8:01:18 PMTheFu So hopeful, this show is.
8:01:29 PMSolbu Didn't the Blues Brothers have a few flying cars following them? ;-)
8:01:48 PMMarshMan Solbu: Several dozen
8:02:27 PMLyndon flying police cars!
8:02:48 PMTheFu Does amazon.com use perl still?
8:03:51 PMTheFu SashaR, you can escape it. There is a setting NOT to get their spam/msgs.
8:04:15 PMLyndon or you can go to walmart...
8:05:34 PMLyndon amazon is going to take over all eCommerce in the future
8:06:05 PMMarshMan Getting minor skips in the feed
8:06:41 PMLyndon unless Google buys Amazon
8:08:15 PMTheFu Tequila?
8:10:06 PMTheFu Google can't track you if you aren't connected.
8:11:27 PMSolbu Is it just me or are the skip's increasing in duration?
8:11:35 PMTheFu seems so here.
8:12:04 PMMarshMan definitely
8:12:17 PMTheFu And it isn't like the entire screen is being redrawn. Guess there isn't any compression happening on-the-fly.
8:13:13 PMLyndon how nice =)
8:13:39 PMTheFu PS2 supported Linux on delivery ...before SONY removed it.
8:13:40 PMLyndon maybe we can make one for ourselves mwa haha
8:14:04 PMSolbu «We'll hack it…»
8:14:29 PMLyndon ;)
8:15:04 PMMichael-hele good night from the UK bedtime now 1:14am
8:15:10 PMTheFu Any suggestions for a media manager that runs under Linux and supports AllMovie.com data scraping?
8:16:11 PMSashaR You are all so awesome for being here every week :)
8:16:16 PMSolbu :-)
8:16:44 PMMarshMan We love you SashaR
8:16:52 PMSashaR I love you all :)
8:16:55 PMMarshMan Enjoy your trip!!!
8:16:58 PMSolbu SashaR: THis is something I've been wanting for a long time. Something like Twit, only with a christian base line.
8:17:05 PMSashaR Thank you!
8:17:08 PMTheFu Loved the SashaR car video!
8:17:35 PMMarshMan 6 or 7 times
8:17:45 PMMarshMan Oh no!!
8:17:46 PMLyndon not as much as in the middle though right?
8:17:53 PMTheFu MarshMan, about the same here.
8:17:55 PMABQTKY SashaR it was stuttering on YouTube, too.
8:17:58 PMMichael-hele butter smooth stream in the UK most of the time
8:18:22 PMSolbu SashaR: The stuttering increased in duration as the show went on.
8:18:23 PMABQTKY In between the little anomalies it's all FINE!!
8:19:08 PMMarshMan that last one was several seconds
8:19:17 PMTheFu Can RobbieF just enable compression pre-disk?
8:19:25 PMLyndon it was a good show either way
8:19:30 PMSolbu SashaR: But on the good side, no dropouts. ;-)
8:19:38 PMSashaR I'm sad that Robbie seems to always have an uphill battle of things to fix!
8:19:59 PMTheFu Going from 1080p to 4K is a huge jump.
8:20:00 PMABQTKY SashaR, ask him which version of PCIe the Dell 2950 server has...its' probably an old version.
8:20:04 PMMarshMan Lyndon: always a good show
8:21:01 PMLyndon the more you know the more you have to fix
8:21:09 PMTheFu Idea - SashaR's home computer would make a great video recorder for the show. ;)
8:21:31 PMSashaR Talk to Dave about that.... I'm not sure he could part with it! :)
8:21:46 PMSolbu TheFu: Hehehe
8:21:46 PMTheFu Cold dead hands?
8:21:48 PMABQTKY Great idea, TheFu!! 8-)
8:22:26 PMLyndon yes
8:22:26 PMLyndon ok guys and gals, gotta go
8:22:26 PMLyndon see you all hopefully next week
8:22:34 PMSashaR We may have to do a slight re record ... Robbie is working on salvage at this point
8:22:38 PMTheFu bye Lyndon -
8:22:43 PMSashaR Goodnigh
8:22:48 PMSashaR t
8:23:12 PMTheFu SashaR, Whasn't the "5" on your laptop screen?
8:23:22 PMLyndon see ya TheFu
8:23:39 PMMarshMan I may have a slightly used Dell 2950 avaliable.
8:23:48 PMSolbu SashaR: I can watch it again, if you need feedback for re-recording. :-)
8:24:38 PMSashaR thanks Solbu... I'm just waiting to find out what Robbie wants to do
8:25:54 PMTheFu It wasn't that bad.
8:26:25 PMTheFu What about dropping back to 1080 recording?
8:26:26 PMSashaR It's not recorded here though... so the show isn't complete
8:26:32 PMMarshMan SashaR: Have Robbie check the Tip Jar.
8:28:26 PMSolbu Robbie: Know that some of us will be praying for this sitation in the comming days.
8:29:07 PMTheFu 4k recording is hard.
8:30:04 PMTheFu I have a 1080p recorder - $80.
8:30:25 PMMarshMan Yes sir
8:31:33 PMMarshMan I say again. Let's do a build. I'll deliver the parts.
8:31:53 PMTheFu The 1080p recorder goes in-line using HDMI cables. Zero latency.
8:32:07 PMTheFu No computer.
8:32:41 PMMarshMan RobbieF: your scalp will be all disheveled
8:33:04 PMRobbieF thanks everyone!!!
8:33:10 PMRobbieF yeah, peeling from stress MarshMan :P
8:33:35 PMSashaR Goodnight... see you in two weeks!!!

Participants

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ABQTKY
Garbee
Guest_4061
Lyndon
MarshMan
Michael-hele
RobbieF
SashaR
Skywriter64
Solbu
TheFu
bigkitty
garywhite
orangeman