Chat Logs for Episode 570 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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With 59 Posts:TheFu
With 37 Posts:Garbee
With 17 Posts:GWG
With 14 Posts:Solbu
With 6 Posts:MarshMan


Chat Logs:

6:58:15 PMTheFu My spelling for that thing behind RobbieF
6:58:36 PMGWG RobbieF: Yes. It's Dalek
6:58:44 PMSashaR TheFu: GWG
6:58:47 PMGWG Yes, Tab
6:58:52 PMSashaR ABQTKY:
6:58:53 PMTheFu tab.
6:59:00 PMGWG I just like the gasp
6:59:13 PMMarshMan Hello all!!
6:59:25 PMGWG Hello, Marshman. How's the weather
6:59:28 PMSashaR MarshMan: Hi
6:59:30 PMTheFu Just imagine SashaR with a shell?!!!!
6:59:31 PMABQTKY SashaR What?? You rang??
6:59:35 PMMarshMan Warm!!
6:59:35 PMGWG SashaR: All you had to do was ask
7:00:14 PMGWG It is hot here.
7:00:26 PMSolbu SashaR: When that happens, hitting Tab 2 times gives a list of possible matches. Then you type a few more chars and try Tab again.
7:00:36 PMTheFu You could have a call-in guest like Solbu to fill in.
7:01:06 PMSolbu Tab-complete error. heh.
7:01:49 PMGWG SashaR: What are you judging?
7:02:43 PMGWG Is that Jeff behind RobbieF?
7:03:14 PMMarshMan Jeff was exterminated
7:04:53 PMMarshMan ACTION!
7:05:03 PMTheFu Torchwood is in the DrWho universe, but with a little more action and UK centric.
7:05:04 PMGWG You two held those smiles for entirely too long
7:05:16 PMGWG TheFu: That's why I said spinoff
7:05:27 PMTheFu I'm a little behind.
7:05:55 PMTheFu I prefer Torchwood over DrWho.
7:06:53 PMGWG I give Category 5 money each month
7:07:02 PMGWG But not on Patreon
7:08:00 PMGWG I miss This Old Nerd with RobbieF
7:09:15 PMGWG I meant when he was fixing up the studio
7:09:20 PMTheFu You should!
7:09:44 PMTheFu And "our greatest fans" is good too.
7:09:47 PMABQTKY Robbie was great with those drywall episodes!
7:11:50 PMTheFu Fake SD cards are hard to avoid - basically, just have to buy from a company that does returns honestly.
7:14:32 PMGWG Come on, Americans are supposed to make the CAD jokes
7:14:52 PMTheFu Also, before you do anything, copy enough files over on your computer to fill it. If all the files are actually there, great!
7:15:26 PMTheFu GWG, I thought it was about US$0.80 to 1CAD?
7:16:43 PMGWG 0.77
7:16:59 PMTheFu US$ .77 = CAD 1
7:17:16 PMTheFu Yep, just pulled up an app, XE.
7:17:48 PMGWG The wedding photographer was RobbieF? Plot twist
7:18:11 PMTheFu Amazon doesn't usually mis-price anything. But many other stores do and sometimes you can get a crazy good deal from Staples.
7:20:33 PMTheFu Aren't any SD cards over 64G always shipped with an exFAT file system?
7:21:46 PMSolbu RobbieF: Why would fdisk report the card as bigger than it is? Regardless of filesystem on the card that shouldn't matter.
7:21:47 PMGarbee $10 for 256MB now... That must be the *most reliable* 256MB to exist at that size.
7:23:11 PMTheFu Never had an Uncle Bob, must be a great guy.
7:24:05 PMGarbee Do that even if it is *genuine* looking. Some places take the non-company grade stuff, brand it, and package it to sell as if it were authentic.
7:24:09 PMTheFu Many cameras have a 30min video limit.
7:24:18 PMGarbee Because manufacturing isn't tightly controlled.
7:24:21 PMTheFu and stop.
7:24:24 PMSolbu Uncle Bob is Joch Connors mechanical uncle.
7:24:30 PMSolbu *John
7:25:14 PMTheFu Amazon has a bad habit of mixing products on a single page so the reviews are all mixed too.
7:25:58 PMGarbee Jeff carries on, but it is fun.
7:26:44 PMTheFu Garbee, you play Jeff tonight.
7:27:38 PMGarbee Nah I'm good.
7:27:46 PMGarbee Plus, I'm the original Jeff.
7:27:56 PMGarbee Oh no, I'm not.
7:28:02 PMGarbee Either way, he got on camera first.
7:28:44 PMSolbu Pluss the speakers lifted Jeff's hair. :-)
7:30:37 PMTheFu h.265 ... they are working on GPU drivers for it on newer Pis. h.264 has GPU driver support, so the GPU does it all, very little CPU needed.
7:31:15 PMSolbu THere's always MPEG 2, which is now patent free. (The last patent have expired)
7:31:17 PMTheFu Or put a Plex Server on an x86 (intel/AMD) box that can transcode in real-time for the Pi.
7:31:18 PMalpeck buy an mpeg license
7:31:18 PMSolbu :-)
7:31:40 PMTheFu h.264 has world-wide decoding for free.
7:31:55 PMSkywriter64 Maybe Joe needs a MPEG 2 license from the PI Foundation.
7:32:11 PMTheFu 1G for mpeg2 --
7:33:28 PMTheFu Joe is probably "acquiring" the files from "somewhere" ... not from DVDs or broadcasts, I suspect.
7:34:43 PMGarbee Reminder on subttiles if you want those, you need to get subtitle files to encode in. It can't pull those out unless you want them burnt into the video permanently.
7:35:00 PMSolbu For season 1 episode 3 I use 1x03
7:35:00 PMTheFu Garbee, No true.
7:35:34 PMGarbee TheFu: what program pulls subtitles in an optional way from a disc when making a video file?
7:35:36 PMTheFu Both SRT and SUBS can be pulled out as external files and retained with the correct container, like MKV.
7:35:55 PMTheFu handbrake, avidemux, pretty much all of them.
7:36:02 PMGarbee Yea, but if you're using something like handbrake to make an MP4. They must be burnt in from that.
7:36:14 PMTheFu Stop using an inferior container.
7:36:15 PMGarbee You'd have to have an external SRT file to embed as an optional subtitle.
7:36:26 PMTheFu DVDs have SRTs.
7:36:45 PMTheFu They also have SUBs. Both work effectively the same in handbrake.
7:37:05 PMTheFu SUBs and SRT are VERY different formats.
7:37:19 PMGarbee I have never found handbrake to pull in optional subtitles from an MKV making it an MP4.
7:37:27 PMGarbee I always have to go get SRT files to embed optionally.
7:37:31 PMTheFu Don't use inferior containers.
7:37:35 PMalpeck Solbu: where can you get free mpeg 2 decoder for pi
7:37:40 PMGarbee TheFu: That is arrogant.
7:37:53 PMGarbee Seriously, stop calling it inferior just because you happen to have some issue with it.
7:38:04 PMTheFu MKV is well supported across all platforms, even Windows.
7:38:12 PMSolbu alpeck: It starts to get included in the various distros, as they release new versions. It just takes time.
7:38:15 PMGarbee Does not matter.
7:39:23 PMTheFu Garbee, but it doesn't do what you claim to want and there is an alternative that is 100% F/OSS which is well supported across all platforms.
7:39:34 PMSolbu alpeck: Besides, all mpeg2 decoders on Linux is free software, it just wasn't included in most distros due to patents.
7:40:24 PMTheFu I don't have an issue with mp4. Haven't used it in about 8 yrs.
7:41:18 PMGarbee TheFu: Great for you. Stop trying to get a point across. I've made the point that MP4 type containers work differently and some care may be needed in using them. It's done. No need to push your preferred choice as "the only superior way to do things". It simply doesn't matter.
7:43:42 PMTheFu alpeck, the free mpeg2 decoder for a r-pi requires using the CPU. Most r-pi CPUs aren't fast enough to handle any mpeg2 resolutions over 600p.
7:44:15 PMalpeck Solbu: thanx
7:44:41 PMTheFu For hidef mpeg2, the paid mpeg2 license which enables the GPU hardware is about US$2.
7:45:02 PMTheFu It may have changed, but that's what I paid about 2 yrs ago.
7:45:39 PMTheFu alpeck, this is about raspberry pi mpeg2 decoding.
7:46:06 PMalpeck TheFu: yes
7:46:34 PMGarbee Why is the dalek trying to exterminate SashaR?
7:49:57 PMTheFu This story is a reason to reconsider connecting your smartphone with any financial accounts.
7:50:01 PMGarbee lol, look forward to presenting.... what?
7:50:47 PMTheFu AT&T has a clause that says they aren't responsible for anything in all their cellular contracts.
7:50:48 PMSolbu TheFu: It has changed: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/15/world_farewells_the_last_mpeg2_patent/ – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2#Patent_pool
7:50:55 PMGarbee Not phone (smart or not.) Phone number for access.
7:50:58 PMGarbee Big difference.
7:51:12 PMTheFu SIM - cellular.
7:51:28 PMTheFu IF it was his POTS line, he definitely has a case.
7:51:30 PMGarbee Properly connecting a mobile device with something unique to get access is perfectly fine (and encouraged.) It's the phone network itself being used that is the root problem.
7:53:31 PMTheFu Having more than $10K connected to a phone number or email account that is widely know is less than brilliant.
7:54:51 PMGarbee SashaR: Not weird. They don't want to pay the people to talk to customers on the weekend.
7:55:59 PMGarbee Why did AT&T have a security vulnerability where you could just change the URL number to see someone else's account?
7:56:23 PMGarbee They've had repeated issues that are root caused in poor software allowing access being given where it clearly shouldn't have.
7:58:50 PMTheFu Garbee, AT&T trains their people, but not all representatives/employees understand it. For every 1 customer like this, there are 1,000 who come in and are yelling for help. Literally.
7:59:24 PMTheFu I've never been a CSR for any telecom, thank God.
7:59:37 PMGarbee Yup I know. But it shouldn't be the reps issue either. They handle everything through software. if the account *needed* that 6 digit pin. Why were they ever allowed access to make the change without it? Period. The software failed.
7:59:54 PMGarbee The rep should literally have no control to bypass security functionality, ever.
8:00:30 PMTheFu Garbee, Early features that marketing/management agree to make happen are often initially implemented with notes in the customer file.
8:01:38 PMTheFu Management wants to show they are "doing something" ... but the software changes take 8+ months and $1.5M in funding, which wasn't approved for this year.
8:01:42 PMTheFu For example.
8:03:04 PMTheFu All software has bugs - except perhaps LaTex.;)
8:05:23 PMSolbu https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/56810065/trust-me-there-are-no-bugs-in-our-software.jpg
8:07:03 PMTheFu More about SIM hijacking: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vbqax3/hackers-sim-swapping-steal-phone-numbers-instagram-bitcoin
8:07:30 PMGarbee SashaR: OMG that's a terrible error phrase for that.
8:09:01 PMGarbee Fear sells the stuff they advertise in between segments.
8:09:02 PMTheFu RobbieF is correct. 98% of the world is good, nice people. But when it comes to news, 2% bad becomes 98%....
8:09:40 PMTheFu People outside the USA think everyone inside the USA have guns and shot anyone over tiny issues.
8:09:56 PMGarbee TheFu: Well, the latter part isn't wrong.
8:10:06 PMGarbee Many people do start shooting over nothing.
8:10:51 PMTheFu Garbee, not true. A few people start shooting over nothing. If many people did, there would be millions of injuries and deaths daily.
8:11:04 PMMarshMan RobbieF: It's called Pay it Forward
8:11:15 PMTheFu Unless you count target shooting, which I do a few times a week. ;)
8:11:34 PMGarbee TheFu: In scale compared to other nations, the US is majorly out of wack in that regard. But we should probably not talk about gun issues too much here. Too politically driven of a topic.
8:12:07 PMTheFu I will defend your right to choose.
8:12:44 PMMarshMan G'night all
8:12:48 PMGarbee No crackling at all this week.
8:12:50 PMRobbieF Thanks everyone!!
8:12:51 PMGarbee That's good.
8:12:57 PMRobbieF glad to hear it Garbee- thanks for the note!
8:13:02 PMRobbieF [good news from garbee]
8:13:11 PMGarbee Good news, just like the USB Condom.
8:13:16 PMGarbee :D
8:13:57 PMSashaR Thank you!! I don't get to chat as mch when Jeff isn't here... but I love glancing down and seeing the chatter on my screen :)
8:14:27 PMSolbu SashaR: You do a good job.
8:15:00 PMTheFu SashaR, you remind me of Gwen Cooper from Torchwood.

Participants

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ABQTKY
GWG
Garbee
MarshMan
RobbieF
SashaR
Skywriter64
Solbu
TheFu
alpeck