6:58:06 PM | SashaR | If I win the lottery, you are all coming to the show!
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6:58:20 PM | Dennis_Kelley | do you play the lottery?
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6:58:34 PM | TheFu | SashaR, Might want to state a minimum required win ... $5 ain't gonna cut it.
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6:58:46 PM | MarshMan | SashaR: I am hoping to visit next month
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6:58:46 PM | TheFu | Especially in CAD.
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6:58:57 PM | Dennis_Kelley | from where MarshMan
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6:59:03 PM | SashaR | $5 american would!!!
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6:59:03 PM | MarshMan | NY
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6:59:08 PM | TheFu | Robbie sporting THE WORM shirt.
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6:59:10 PM | Dennis_Kelley | nice!
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6:59:12 PM | TheFu | "nice"
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6:59:21 PM | SashaR | That's gonna be awesome!!!
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6:59:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i see the LinuxMint logo!
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7:00:13 PM | Dennis_Kelley | SashaR did you get a microphone? watched RobbieF attempt to fix yours!
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7:00:21 PM | Garbee | Dennis_Kelley: SSSSHHHHH
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7:00:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | oh sorry!
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7:00:39 PM | SashaR | well, I'm borrowing his right now :)
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7:00:42 PM | TheFu | lips moving ... no sound.
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7:00:44 PM | Garbee | That was a very intimate pre-show special.
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7:00:56 PM | Garbee | We do not need to discuss it. Just like fight club.
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7:01:02 PM | Dennis_Kelley | right!
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7:01:11 PM | SashaR | lol. I heard it was intense
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7:01:18 PM | Solbu | TheFu: Yes, they're trying out a new feature: Silent movie.
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7:01:19 PM | Garbee | Oh it was. Lots of whispering.
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7:01:20 PM | Dennis_Kelley | what happens in preshow, stays in preshow!
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7:01:23 PM | Garbee | I even crashed the party.
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7:01:23 PM | SashaR | I'm not plugged in yet!
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7:01:31 PM | KD4MAA | @Garbee someone told me I can have more then one name or list or something?
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7:01:52 PM | MarshMan | SashaR: I also played a VR game this past weekend.
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7:01:52 PM | Dennis_Kelley | KD4MAA you figured it out!
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7:01:57 PM | Garbee | KD4MAA: Yup. On second. first you need to register a nick as your primary.
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7:02:02 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello RobbieF
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7:02:03 PM | MarshMan | it didn't make me sick :)
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7:02:04 PM | Garbee | Then you just register new nicks on that account.
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7:02:19 PM | Garbee | https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
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7:02:25 PM | Garbee | Yes we can hear you!
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7:02:27 PM | MarshMan | do do do
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7:02:45 PM | Garbee | No crackling yet.
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7:03:02 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Nope not on that mic Garbee
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7:03:03 PM | TheFu | HAM ref for DJMike?
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7:03:03 PM | Garbee | A bajillion is a lot.
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7:03:08 PM | Garbee | Are you sure that number is accurate?
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7:03:29 PM | MarshMan | Garbee: She meant bazillion
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7:03:34 PM | KD4MAA | @SashaR amateur radio call sign
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7:03:36 PM | Dennis_Kelley | close to actual number Garbee
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7:03:43 PM | Skywriter64 | Hi from very hot Brooklyn NY
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7:03:58 PM | MarshMan | Skywriter64: Bklyn was hot today
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7:04:02 PM | TheFu | Skywriter64, Hi from relatively cool Georgia.
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7:04:10 PM | Solbu | SashaR: So instead of the mike cracling, your body is doing the cracleing? :-)
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7:04:13 PM | Garbee | Have you ever seen a bajillion of anything?
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7:04:13 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Earth is Hot today!
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7:04:32 PM | SashaR | We are going to be late...almost there
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7:04:48 PM | Garbee | haha omg. I just thought of a terrible delayed joke.
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7:04:53 PM | TheFu | SashaR, Have you tried the 1+ Burpee workout? Every day, add 1 more.
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7:04:55 PM | Skywriter64 | I almost melted today!
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7:05:27 PM | TheFu | Not here. Low 80s.
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7:06:03 PM | MarshMan | Skywriter64: went to Microcenter in Bklyn today. Very hot by the Gowanus
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7:06:13 PM | Garbee | Solbu: So, if people are connecting via a recognized web client I'm auto-voicing right away. They should be mostly safe from being spammers.
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7:06:24 PM | Solbu | Garbee: I'm doing the same.
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7:06:29 PM | Garbee | Anyone that is direct connection is being held up.
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7:06:34 PM | TheFu | SashaR, Is that the park with the water fountains?
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7:06:47 PM | TheFu | ATL-ish
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7:06:49 PM | ABQTKY | So Brooklyn - high 90s, high 90s humidity and not even a slight breeze??
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7:06:56 PM | Solbu | Garbee: Clients using «gateway/web» hosts are not bots. Not yet at least.
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7:06:57 PM | Garbee | kk just making sure what is going on is clear. This is a messy situation.
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7:07:02 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Georgia
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7:07:15 PM | Dennis_Kelley | TheFu: is in Georgia?
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7:07:23 PM | Garbee | I've seen it, but it is rare and those clients try to control access in some way.
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7:07:49 PM | Dennis_Kelley | it was hot the last couple days in Michigan!
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7:07:49 PM | TheFu | I moved here just before the '96 Olympics.
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7:08:00 PM | Garbee | Yes we hear her perfectly RobbieF.
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7:08:06 PM | Garbee | I even hear you well through her mic.
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7:08:07 PM | Dennis_Kelley | we have not had a weather check in a long time! and go!
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7:08:16 PM | MoeMaravilla | 25c = 77f
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7:08:27 PM | Garbee | Check check.
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7:08:31 PM | MoeMaravilla | 30c = 86f
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7:08:33 PM | Garbee | Waiter, please, this date is awful.
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7:08:37 PM | SashaR | 43 Celcius
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7:08:44 PM | MoeMaravilla | 35c = 95f
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7:08:46 PM | Dennis_Kelley | double it and add thirty for temp!
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7:08:51 PM | Garbee | Yes RobbieF all clear.
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7:09:02 PM | MoeMaravilla | 40c = 104f
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7:09:11 PM | Solbu | Check bounced.
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7:09:14 PM | TheFu | That's hot, even here.
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7:09:16 PM | Garbee | yes.
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7:09:19 PM | Dennis_Kelley | 87 in michigan
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7:09:20 PM | Garbee | It's right.
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7:09:21 PM | MarshMan | 85F in mid-hudson valley
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7:09:29 PM | Garbee | Farenheit is far from fair. It's mostly stupid.
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7:09:30 PM | TheFu | Not quite ...
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7:09:47 PM | Dennis_Kelley | maybe thats metric
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7:09:54 PM | TheFu | That's the quick and dirty method ... and close enough much of the time.
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7:09:57 PM | MoeMaravilla | Not quite double 9/5
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7:09:58 PM | Garbee | One of us will.
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7:10:09 PM | Dennis_Kelley | strange brew! Canadians dont know about Strange Brew!
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7:10:34 PM | Solbu | And we have liftoff.
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7:10:35 PM | Skywriter64 | Marshman,I went there this past Sunday for a New Tv antenna & hdd.
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7:11:02 PM | TheFu | Weather = off.
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7:11:03 PM | Garbee | Yah, all clear.
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7:11:07 PM | MarshMan | Skywriter64: where did you go?
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7:11:40 PM | MarshMan | Dissected perfect word
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7:11:45 PM | Solbu | Hehe
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7:12:53 PM | Skywriter64 | Went to the freezer to cool off
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7:13:03 PM | TheFu | So I guess Jeff knows where he is in the pecking order? Sent home?
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7:13:08 PM | Dennis_Kelley | its not the volts that is the issue, its current you have to worry about. Mics are very low current
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7:13:10 PM | Garbee | SashaR: At least *now* you know!
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7:13:29 PM | Dennis_Kelley | no you didnt RobbieF
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7:13:37 PM | Garbee | Right now, the wires themselves they don't need to worry about. Robbie destroyed them.
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7:13:47 PM | Dennis_Kelley | right Garbee
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7:13:53 PM | Dennis_Kelley | no way!
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7:14:01 PM | Garbee | THERE IS A RECORD. IT IS IN MY BRAIN!
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7:14:03 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF is great at soldering!
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7:14:05 PM | MarshMan | RobbieF: I took screen shots
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7:14:19 PM | Dennis_Kelley | right!
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7:14:25 PM | Dennis_Kelley | we have the proof!
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7:15:05 PM | Garbee | SashaR: Did he show you the components? It was a tight fit. Very hard for anyone to do that without some very specific equipment to help.
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7:15:22 PM | MarshMan | It'll cost you
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7:15:28 PM | Garbee | He was just appreciating your fingernails.
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7:15:33 PM | Garbee | That's all the screenshots were of.
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7:15:38 PM | TheFu | Duct tape could hold it all together, certainly.
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7:15:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF we like your ring by the way!
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7:16:00 PM | Garbee | Robbie's solder job looked like rabbit turds.
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7:16:09 PM | Garbee | #TrueFact
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7:16:31 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i could see, just not talk!
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7:16:58 PM | Garbee | She only winks when her husband is in studio.
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7:17:06 PM | Garbee | Even I get that correlation.
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7:17:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i like being a cylon
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7:18:34 PM | Dennis_Kelley | #TrueSay Garbee
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7:19:13 PM | MarshMan | we beat himup
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7:19:15 PM | Garbee | The difference is, dentist is dealing with human bodies that aren't always understandable. Robbie was dealing with a board and wire.
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7:19:47 PM | Garbee | Robbie has no excuse except big hands and a thick soldering iron that wouldn't fit well in the case.
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7:19:49 PM | Dennis_Kelley | twelve mics later, he will have it fixed!
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7:20:09 PM | Solbu | Hehe
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7:20:23 PM | TheFu | hehe.
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7:21:02 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Magic of post production
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7:21:03 PM | TheFu | I love going to the dentist, especially if there will be blood. NOT!
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7:21:17 PM | TheFu | Nerf football!
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7:21:49 PM | Dennis_Kelley | its fragile, thats why they put it in an envelope!
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7:22:05 PM | Garbee | I was about to say that is the most conveniently timed phantom power adapter delivery.
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7:22:37 PM | TheFu | Looks like a space station model.
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7:22:56 PM | Dennis_Kelley | why not!
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7:23:17 PM | Dennis_Kelley | they are going to go blind!
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7:23:42 PM | Garbee | hahahah, Robbie's face.
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7:23:49 PM | Garbee | You may want to redo this section of the show.
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7:23:52 PM | Garbee | And not turn that on.
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7:24:00 PM | TheFu | Dennis_Kelley, I think that is for something else.
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7:24:18 PM | Dennis_Kelley | the glare!
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7:24:26 PM | GWG | Confirmed to HKG. Wish me luck in getting the rest of the way
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7:24:27 PM | MarshMan | Kelvin
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7:24:39 PM | Garbee | 'ey GWG.
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7:24:42 PM | DJMike | @RobbieF How many light box do you have?
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7:24:52 PM | TheFu | GWG, Visit the Peak! or if you have time, Macua is nice.
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7:25:14 PM | Garbee | Not 90% of the days.
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7:25:21 PM | Garbee | We can be honest.
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7:25:54 PM | Dennis_Kelley | how Garbee he threw you under the bus!
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7:26:00 PM | DJMike | @Robbie @SashaR How many light box do you have?
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7:26:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | *Wow
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7:26:08 PM | GWG | I want to go home
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7:26:13 PM | Garbee | I throw him under the whole set of city public transit busses.
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7:26:24 PM | GWG | I am going to stand st the airport until they let me go home
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7:26:25 PM | Garbee | Ok, RobbieF needs to go get that thing.
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7:26:28 PM | Garbee | Keyboard or something.
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7:26:35 PM | DJMike | I am laughing so hard I need to hold on to my desk lol
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7:26:53 PM | Garbee | That's just honest. I am terrible.
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7:26:54 PM | TheFu | GWG, sometimes enough travel is enough travel.
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7:26:58 PM | Garbee | Rabbit turd soldereer.
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7:27:15 PM | TheFu | Off the air, Garbee .... he says that.
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7:27:19 PM | Garbee | solderist?
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7:27:21 PM | Dennis_Kelley | that is RobbieF new nickname, Garbee
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7:27:23 PM | Garbee | I don't know how we'd say that one properly.
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7:28:08 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Rabbit Turd soldering person, doesnt sound the same
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7:28:32 PM | TheFu | Like the Rocketeer?
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7:28:35 PM | GWG | TheFu, exactly
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7:28:39 PM | TheFu | Soldereer?
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7:28:43 PM | Garbee | SashaR: The sushi cam is a bonus feature.
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7:28:55 PM | Garbee | TheFu: I meant solderer*.
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7:29:14 PM | MarshMan | Tre cool
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7:29:45 PM | Solbu | Nest week: Robbi builds a new microphone.
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7:29:45 PM | Dennis_Kelley | wait, that Sushi thing is made in china? What?
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7:30:13 PM | Garbee | hahahaha
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7:30:21 PM | Garbee | I shall feed you my blood.
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7:30:34 PM | Garbee | And hey! No crackling so far.
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7:30:49 PM | Dennis_Kelley | no Solbu, next show is how RobbieF turns off the solder iron!
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7:31:02 PM | Solbu | Dennis_Kelley: Ahh, yea. One step at a time. :_)
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7:31:05 PM | Solbu | :-)
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7:31:17 PM | Dennis_Kelley | ask him to show his arm!
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7:31:34 PM | Dennis_Kelley | SashaR ask RobbieF about his arm!
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7:31:37 PM | MarshMan | RobbieF: did you start recording?
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7:31:41 PM | Garbee | You also have heckling RobbieF.
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7:31:46 PM | Garbee | Dont' forget I'm watching.
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7:32:16 PM | Garbee | We watched the burn happen live.
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7:32:18 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF does your arm smell like Sushi?
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7:32:30 PM | Dennis_Kelley | No it does not!
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7:32:39 PM | Garbee | Without Jeff here you can actually hit everything.
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7:32:53 PM | TheFu | G'night.
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7:33:00 PM | TheFu | Tip your waiters.
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7:33:02 PM | Garbee | See ya TheFu.
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7:33:32 PM | TheFu | Ah ... that wasn't the end of the show.
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7:33:38 PM | Garbee | nope
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7:33:43 PM | Garbee | This show is going into overtime.
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7:34:43 PM | TheFu | Video editing is one of 3 things I still do on Windows. As a LUG organizer, it is embarrassing.
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7:35:11 PM | Garbee | Solbu: Oh nice, IRCCloud easily shows me if people are logged in or not. So that can help speed up letting some people in too.
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7:35:30 PM | Solbu | Garbee: irc-what?
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7:35:42 PM | Garbee | SashaR... um, Linux is that one guy at the top. We call him Linus.
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7:36:06 PM | Garbee | irccloud.com The online client I use.
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7:36:32 PM | TheFu | Linux development is a huge pyramid scheme ... that works.
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7:36:56 PM | Garbee | We have recently learned, MS now has a backchannel to discuss security issues with Linux devs. So that's nice.
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7:37:07 PM | Garbee | Spectre/Meltdown brought one good thing for us.
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7:37:14 PM | Dennis_Kelley | give it to world or sell it to the world. two different mind sets!
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7:38:13 PM | TheFu | RobbieF, have you looked at Ubuntu-Studio?
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7:38:40 PM | Solbu | TheFu: I was having the same idea.
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7:39:03 PM | Garbee | I'm sure he has. But he's trying to stay behind Canonical.
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7:39:06 PM | Garbee | er, ahead of.
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7:39:16 PM | Garbee | So Robbie prefers Debian direct based distros now.
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7:39:40 PM | TheFu | THat's what PPAs give you ... and snaps.
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7:39:46 PM | TheFu | I think.
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7:39:53 PM | MoeMaravilla | I use Debian with Mate.
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7:40:12 PM | MoeMaravilla | Have used RedHat/CentOS and SLES.
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7:40:31 PM | Garbee | Yah. I regret recommending Elementary.
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7:40:53 PM | Garbee | So many little quirks ended up annoying me so much too.
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7:41:27 PM | Garbee | They are working on multiple monitor support with varied DPIs and all. It's a part of the HiDPI push. But it is still some ways out because that stuff is hard.
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7:41:37 PM | Garbee | I think they are collaborating with System76 on it.
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7:42:06 PM | DJMike | I only have pi-star from http://www.pistar.uk/
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7:43:14 PM | TheFu | Slackware, Arch, Debian, RHEL ... are the biggies.
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7:43:26 PM | SashaR | Thank you :)
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7:43:48 PM | Garbee | SashaR: Here you go, be amazed after the show: https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=family-tree
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7:44:26 PM | TheFu | That graph is huge - hard to read on less than a projector. ;)
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7:44:32 PM | Garbee | You can install Flatpak on this and get an up-to-date GIMP in an isolated and secure space.
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7:44:37 PM | Garbee | That's another alternative.
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7:44:50 PM | TheFu | Snaps are the Canonical version of Flatpaks.
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7:45:02 PM | Garbee | Yea, snaps that no one but Canonical supports.
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7:45:02 PM | SashaR | Awesome ... thanks :)
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7:45:03 PM | TheFu | 18.04 is build using Snaps for many things.
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7:45:26 PM | TheFu | I think Flatpak will win ... when Canonical finally gives up in 5 yrs.
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7:45:28 PM | Garbee | Literally, no one is working on supporting Snaps. Canonical pissed everyone off when they launched it the way they handled it.
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7:45:58 PM | Garbee | I think Flatpaks will absorb some of the good ideas of snaps as far as configuration/ease-of-use in the end.
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7:46:05 PM | TheFu | Garbee, I'm pissed off about snaps being used without asking. They install stuff with it and don't ask first.
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7:46:07 PM | Garbee | In terms of making a container.
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7:46:48 PM | Garbee | TheFu: Eh, it is a sandboxed environment. It makes sense to default to them where you can for the best security for users.
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7:46:58 PM | TheFu | I use Zimbra and Thunderbird + Lightning + an addressbook link into Zimbra. All works well.
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7:47:35 PM | TheFu | Garbee, But they break many things that leverage external libraries ... like their VLC can't play commercial DVDs.
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7:48:00 PM | TheFu | I like the idea too.
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7:48:22 PM | Garbee | TheFu: Yes because of licensing issues there. I agree that kind of thing eventually needs to be addressed. But right now, they're all doing the best they can with what they have.
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7:48:43 PM | TheFu | But I hate the current implementation. The loops for each package are sucking up boot time and resoruces in 18.04 so people complain.
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7:49:03 PM | TheFu | Garbee, and that's anti-LTS.
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7:49:13 PM | TheFu | They should test on non-LTS releases.
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7:49:30 PM | Garbee | That's absolutely a Canonical bone-headed decision.
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7:49:39 PM | Garbee | Neither snaps nor flatpaks are perfect. Even AppImages aren't. But, they are at least working towards a solution that is very much needed.
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7:49:49 PM | Garbee | Canonical doing it poorly is its own thing.
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7:50:07 PM | TheFu | They were smart rolling back Wayland support for 18.04 ... but pushing snaps without a full test in 17.10 was foolish, IMHO.
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7:50:45 PM | Garbee | You'd come to us SashaR.
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7:50:47 PM | Garbee | This chatroom.
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7:51:00 PM | Garbee | Response time varies between 5 minutes and 5 years. But we are here for you.
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7:51:16 PM | TheFu | Ubuntu server 18.04 has stability issues being reported, still.
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7:51:33 PM | Skywriter64 | Which e-mail?
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7:51:38 PM | TheFu | SashaR, If you ask on UBuntuForums, I'll try to answer.
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7:51:39 PM | Solbu | Ask RobbieF, ask your doctor.
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7:52:34 PM | Dennis_Kelley | If SashaR was not playing VR games, she would have time for us in the chat
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7:53:21 PM | TheFu | With scooters, Uber doesn't need as many "contractors."
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7:53:46 PM | MoeMaravilla | So Uber will pick you up on a scooter?
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7:54:22 PM | TheFu | MoeMaravilla, No, I'll have to drive 30 miles into town to rent a scooter for a 4 block scoot, instead of walking it.
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7:55:43 PM | TheFu | I have an extreme performance issue with Firefox on my main desktop.
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7:56:02 PM | MoeMaravilla | We're not tracking you... But don't turn off your camera.
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7:56:38 PM | TheFu | The exact same FF install and addons works fine on my limited laptop.
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7:59:16 PM | Garbee | Not Google ads. But many adverts are very heavy on processors, especially mobile where everything matters.
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7:59:40 PM | Garbee | Just look at any news site that has ads that overtake the page. Those are the ads that hurt web performance.
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8:00:33 PM | Garbee | That youtube thing pointed out is the Youtube ad service.
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8:00:42 PM | Garbee | Youtube video embed itself is above that and much smaller.
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8:00:49 PM | TheFu | https://zoompf.com/- web performance tuning.
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8:01:51 PM | Garbee | TheFu: Anything that place is doing you can do for free with webpagetest and chrome devtools and the knowledge of how to interpret the data.
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8:02:15 PM | Garbee | And in the case of DevTools, they actually make pretty nice reports using Lighthouse now when you audit a site.
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8:02:27 PM | TheFu | Garbee, agreed. That company is run by a friend.;)
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8:02:43 PM | Garbee | Congrats on the acquisition.
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8:03:32 PM | TheFu | Yep, he's been buying the beers recently, but it was lean for about 4 yrs.
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8:04:40 PM | TheFu | At a security conf presentation, he once hacked into a European bank just to show how easy it was, live.
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8:05:33 PM | TheFu | It was off the cuff ... not part of the planned presentation.
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8:06:35 PM | TheFu | Maybe it wasn't a eurobank ...
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8:10:29 PM | TheFu | Uber got a new CEO.
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8:14:15 PM | TheFu | Can you balance on a scooter if you are elderly? Perhaps not.
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8:22:01 PM | Garbee | Good show there Rabbit Turd Solderer.
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8:22:37 PM | Garbee | So those Elementary OS bugs finally consumed you too RobbieF?
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8:23:11 PM | Garbee | Yea. I've been meaning to ask you about that. But you're not online. Just to see how things are.
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8:23:19 PM | MarshMan | G'night all!!
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8:23:22 PM | SashaR | Thank you all ... I can't wait until next week :)
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8:23:38 PM | Garbee | I still deal with Elementary when I am on Linux because I love structure of the DE. But damn those little quirks add up.
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8:23:52 PM | Garbee | No crackling
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8:23:56 PM | Garbee | All show
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8:23:59 PM | Garbee | Not a peep of it.
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8:24:02 PM | Garbee | Bye SashaR
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8:24:14 PM | SashaR | Good night :)
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8:28:43 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF great show
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8:38:10 PM | Garbee | RobbieF: Ya'll are very good at keeping a straight face through all the heckling.
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