6:58:16 PM | Solbu | TheFu_: I never install anything using a GUI in Linux, unless I show newbies how to use their new system.
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6:58:49 PM | TheFu_ | But Sasha probably does.
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7:00:31 PM | bp9 | @SashaR but originally from Australia
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7:01:00 PM | GWG | Jeff looks different
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7:01:20 PM | TheFu_ | That's MarshMan
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7:01:23 PM | Solbu | Garbee: Yea, he had a hait cut. :-)
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7:01:30 PM | Solbu | *gwg
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7:01:32 PM | SashaR | Very cool bp9 😃
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7:01:52 PM | bp9 | blushes
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7:01:58 PM | bp9 | Aww thanks
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7:02:10 PM | Skywriter64 | Ok ,where is the show?
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7:02:39 PM | Garbee | Slightly delayed
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7:02:49 PM | SashaR | Barrie... maybe fly into Oro 😃
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7:02:50 PM | bp9 | Yup, that's mine.
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7:02:54 PM | TheFu_ | What model?
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7:03:00 PM | MarshMan | test
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7:03:04 PM | MarshMan | test
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7:03:10 PM | SashaR | getting ready!!!!
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7:03:12 PM | MarshMan | discord works
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7:03:24 PM | bp9 | And yes, customs will probably have something to say about me flying into Canada from the States 😃
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7:03:27 PM | Solbu | Type, type type.
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7:03:33 PM | bp9 | Yay, chat is working again
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7:03:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hi @MarshMan
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7:03:37 PM | SweSG | No YouTube Live?
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7:03:38 PM | bp9 | Bacon!
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7:03:49 PM | MarshMan | Hey @Dennis_Kelley
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7:03:58 PM | TheFu_ | bp9, I'd assume you'd file a FP and take your passport(s).
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7:04:09 PM | bp9 | @TheFu, it's a 1956 Cessna 172. One of the first 100 that Cessna ever made.
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7:04:20 PM | TheFu_ | Nice.
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7:04:32 PM | RobbieF | hi
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7:04:33 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF checklist. LOL
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7:06:41 PM | Guest_7852 | bacon bangers are better
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7:07:05 PM | bp9 | or... bangers wrapped in bacon!
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7:07:40 PM | Dennis_Kelley | chocolate covered bacan
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7:07:40 PM | GWG | I won't be here next week. During the show, I'll be on a flight to Berlin, I hope
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7:08:06 PM | Dennis_Kelley | way to go GWG
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7:08:16 PM | GWG | Way to go what?
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7:08:27 PM | BobK54 | I signed in late, YouTube doesnt seem to be working for me. Is it just me?
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7:08:40 PM | Dennis_Kelley | going to Berlin
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7:09:13 PM | Dennis_Kelley | not working for me either BobK54
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7:09:54 PM | BobK54 | thanks Dennis_Kelley. I just wondered if my system went wonky, apparently not
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7:10:01 PM | GWG | Dennis_Kelley, why? You've been?
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7:10:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | No GWG, just always wanted to go!
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7:11:42 PM | Dennis_Kelley | BobK54 I was wondering the same about my system! LOL
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7:11:45 PM | GWG | Dennis_Kelley: I'm going to a conference.
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7:12:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | about what?
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7:12:26 PM | GWG | Dennis_Kelley: I've built in sightseeing time.
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7:12:47 PM | Skywriter64 | ok guys ,where is the show,discord will not let me in?
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7:12:57 PM | BobK54 | I updated PCLinuxOS earlier and restarted just for fun since we got a load of KDE updates so I wondered if something went wrong.
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7:14:26 PM | stormchaser3000 | I am also unable to watch the stream
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7:15:07 PM | Garbee | It's not up yet.
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7:15:14 PM | stormchaser3000 | oh ok
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7:15:16 PM | Garbee | Slightly delayed. Thank you for your patience.
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7:15:58 PM | bp9 | Takes about 4 seconds to load Libre Writer on my middling laptop (xubuntu linux)
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7:16:29 PM | orangeman | blink and miss loading
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7:16:41 PM | bp9 | Takes about 4 seconds to load Libre Writer on my middling laptop (xubuntu linux)
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7:16:56 PM | Skywriter64 | Third request ,where is the show?
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7:17:29 PM | Guest_7852 | the password is monkey1234
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7:17:55 PM | RobbieF | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoRoQ9UXJHs
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7:18:23 PM | SashaR | I hope that helps 😃
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7:18:31 PM | bp9 | @MarshMan love that evil cackle
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7:18:43 PM | GWG | I'm getting a bit of a lag
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7:19:15 PM | Skywriter64 | Thanks!
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7:19:26 PM | orangeman | thanks robbie
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7:19:30 PM | Dennis_Kelley | so that is @MarshMan ! good to see you!
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7:19:42 PM | Guest_7852 | yahoo!!!!! they live!!!!!!
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7:19:45 PM | GWG | That guy on the screen is MarshMan?
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7:19:54 PM | GWG | I'm bad at names
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7:19:56 PM | SashaR | the one and only
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7:19:58 PM | Solbu | GWG: Yes.
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7:19:59 PM | SashaR | 😃
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7:20:54 PM | alpeck | Hi everyone. Just arrived. Is stream down???
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7:20:59 PM | GWG | That reminds me. I really would like to find a way to power a Pi Zero that fits inside a single case.
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7:21:03 PM | TheFu_ | The show is fine on Kodi and Roku.
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7:21:21 PM | alpeck | nothing on youtube
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7:21:30 PM | SweSG | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoRoQ9UXJHs
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7:21:38 PM | Solbu | alpeck: I lost the stream too (kodi)
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7:21:59 PM | Dennis_Kelley | alpeck I followed the previous link
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7:22:07 PM | TheFu_ | Solbu, here the kodi stream has been good.
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7:22:19 PM | Solbu | TheFu_: What else is new. heh.. :-)
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7:22:22 PM | alpeck | thanks SweSG. That link works
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7:22:36 PM | SweSG | :)
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7:22:51 PM | TheFu_ | Solbu, water is wet?
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7:23:58 PM | Solbu | TheFu_: What? No way? So it's a new utility update? :-)
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7:24:08 PM | Garbee | hm, that's weird. YouTube never gave me the link notification.
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7:24:45 PM | bp9 | Hmm, chat room on stream has stopped again.
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7:26:42 PM | Garbee | Yea, they'll probably get it fixed during the first break.
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7:26:50 PM | orangeman | i you short out the power supply will shut down just take power out lead and reisert the power lead
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7:27:01 PM | bp9 | no worries just wanting to make them aware. 😃
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7:27:29 PM | Garbee | Yup, I just got a note in the right place.
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7:27:30 PM | ChrisM | for backup I'm using a 2 disk Netgear ReadyNAS, it can support 12 TB drives and supports rsync over SSH. There not expensive about 200 plus drives
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7:27:46 PM | MarshMan | test
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7:27:54 PM | MarshMan | test
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7:28:21 PM | Garbee | It hasn't moved since I started the stream.
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7:28:28 PM | orangeman | there very bomb proff and need now blow one up robbey
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7:28:32 PM | Garbee | ❤
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7:28:40 PM | Garbee | There we go, moving again.
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7:28:43 PM | Garbee | ❤
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7:29:02 PM | Garbee | 🥓
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7:29:09 PM | bigkitty | https://live.cat5.tv/ SAYS An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: EzBSUhr2plnD-Dba)
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7:29:12 PM | GWG | I recommend sweet potato fries
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7:29:20 PM | GWG | MarshMan, why are you there, by the way?
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7:29:21 PM | RobbieF | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoRoQ9UXJHs
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7:29:32 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF chat on stream looks good now
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7:29:36 PM | orangeman | i been do of number years use computors power supply
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7:29:48 PM | GWG | Don't forget New York Deli
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7:30:06 PM | TheFu_ | NYC has some of the cleanest water in the world.
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7:30:10 PM | GWG | As a New Yorker, I resent that water crack
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7:30:14 PM | bp9 | @GWG sweet potato fries YUMMY
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7:30:22 PM | Dennis_Kelley | is the display blurry?
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7:31:11 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I go tit!
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7:31:18 PM | Dennis_Kelley | got it
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7:31:33 PM | Garbee | GWG, you can deal with the water crack as well as you deal with drinking that garbage.
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7:31:43 PM | BobK54 | @GWG - as a former Long Islander...I agree with the water comment! :)
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7:31:44 PM | bp9 | Careful @Dennis_Kelley you'll have to moderate yourself! LOL LOL LOL
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7:31:56 PM | GWG | I have a three stage filter on my tap water
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7:32:11 PM | Dennis_Kelley | right thanks bp9
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7:33:01 PM | Solbu | Sasha: Tell RobbieF that the overview/audience camera have sound turned on when it's on screen.
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7:33:10 PM | TheFu_ | +1 Solbu
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7:33:43 PM | alpeck | getting an echo when you select wide view of deboxing table
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7:33:52 PM | TheFu_ | Sasha - you should probably interrupt them.
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7:34:07 PM | SashaR | maybe I'll just keep it on the table then... I don't want to inturrupt 😦
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7:34:21 PM | TheFu_ | That works.
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7:34:31 PM | SashaR | But I will if you think it's essential
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7:34:46 PM | Solbu | Sasha: I would have them do it all over again. It was really bad audio when that camera was on screen.
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7:35:32 PM | Garbee | Yea, the echo was pretty bad when it was up on that shot.
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7:35:45 PM | Garbee | I'm not sure if he can dub over it well.
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7:36:08 PM | Garbee | And now the chat on the stream needs to be restarted too.
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7:36:12 PM | Garbee | 😦
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7:36:29 PM | TheFu_ | Garbee, Can you just ssh in and restart it?
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7:36:39 PM | Garbee | Nah.
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7:36:44 PM | GWG | This is going to go way past 8PM
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7:37:02 PM | TheFu_ | yep.
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7:37:08 PM | Garbee | Just have that chat auto restart every 4 minutes.
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7:38:25 PM | TheFu_ | GWG they've been hitting 8:20p
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7:38:37 PM | GWG | TheFu_: I Know. Just saying
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7:39:12 PM | SashaR | I'm going to stay on the table shot for as long as I can, as I don't want to cause a disruption
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7:39:23 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF what about the speaker?
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7:39:55 PM | TheFu_ | What sort of watch does Bill have?
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7:40:06 PM | Garbee | Magnetic screwdriver ftw.
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7:40:22 PM | Mortimer | heyo
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7:40:23 PM | Garbee | And chat thing crashed again.
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7:40:31 PM | TheFu_ | Well, and I'd need reading glasses to help too. ;)
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7:40:37 PM | Garbee | Is it even worth restarting anymore?
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7:40:38 PM | SashaR | ugh... really?
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7:40:44 PM | SashaR | likely not
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7:40:49 PM | Garbee | It worked so well last week.
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7:41:36 PM | bp9 | @SashaR check with @RobbieF that the speaker doesn't need to go in before the circuit board is screwed down?
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7:41:36 PM | TheFu_ | Garbee, more non-text this week?
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7:42:31 PM | SashaR | did that sound okay?
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7:42:46 PM | TheFu_ | sound seems fine ... all 3 shots.
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7:42:48 PM | Garbee | Yup, sound is fixed on that shot.
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7:42:53 PM | Garbee | Buffering now though
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7:42:54 PM | bp9 | Wide shot sounds good now
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7:43:00 PM | SashaR | okay... thank you!
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7:43:04 PM | TheFu_ | big buffering.
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7:43:05 PM | Garbee | So we're getting delayed slightly I think.
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7:43:29 PM | Garbee | offline now...
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7:43:33 PM | TheFu_ | Bill - I'll challenge you to a Tank #4 game!
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7:43:41 PM | bp9 | Thanks @SashaR you rock 😃
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7:43:46 PM | Garbee | And coming back
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7:43:55 PM | Garbee | Back offline..
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7:44:15 PM | bp9 | yaa buffering on Roku as well
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7:44:28 PM | Garbee | And "video is unavailable"
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7:44:32 PM | TheFu_ | Had to restart the stream ... audio is off and on now.
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7:44:43 PM | Garbee | Refresh if you're on Youtube
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7:44:44 PM | SashaR | I wish this was a smooth night 😦
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7:45:00 PM | Garbee | Yea, it's a bad night to have all the glitches. Such a cool project.
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7:45:08 PM | bp9 | NO worries that's half the fun!
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7:45:16 PM | TheFu_ | Does changing shots too quickly have anything to do with the stream buffering?
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7:45:21 PM | Garbee | At least the local recording is perfect. 😛
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7:45:22 PM | bp9 | As long as @RobbieF remembered to press "record" LOL
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7:45:32 PM | SashaR | he did!
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7:45:39 PM | bp9 | Excellent!
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7:45:52 PM | TheFu_ | Are those finger prints on the screen?
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7:46:16 PM | Garbee | Back offline here...
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7:46:19 PM | Guest_5839 | youtube keeps "burping" (dropping signal)
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7:46:42 PM | SashaR | Is it something I am doing with the camera switching that is causing the issues?
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7:46:46 PM | Garbee | This might be a night to just finish up recording locally.
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7:46:50 PM | bp9 | Yup, Roku as well 😃
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7:46:52 PM | Solbu | Yea, the stream is just crap today.
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7:46:52 PM | Garbee | No not your at all Sasha.
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7:46:57 PM | Garbee | your fault*
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7:47:08 PM | Garbee | It's all the internet connection/stream providers.
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7:47:14 PM | TheFu_ | It was great until about 5min into the demo table.
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7:47:39 PM | Garbee | Like, this stream is just about unbearable with all the buffering if it keeps up.
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7:48:47 PM | Garbee | Ok, things seem to be picking back up now. (knock on wood)
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7:48:56 PM | Guest_4761 | just looking to see why no youtube video feed.
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7:49:38 PM | Garbee | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H8itfWFPhg
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7:50:01 PM | Garbee | It's there, the notification didn't go out, nor the Cat5 Page updating on YouTube for some reason. :/
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7:50:12 PM | TheFu_ | VM-ware
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7:50:24 PM | Garbee | Today is riddled with technical difficulties for the live stream. Sorry.
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7:50:38 PM | TheFu_ | A or B?
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7:50:44 PM | TheFu_ | 1 or 2?
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7:50:44 PM | bp9 | No worries it's fun to watch the bloopers
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7:51:27 PM | RobbieF | hi
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7:51:45 PM | TheFu_ | Stream stuck for others?
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7:51:56 PM | orangeman | yes
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7:52:16 PM | orangeman | ground hog day for cat 5 tv
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7:52:31 PM | Guest_5839 | buffering buffering buffering (its the ISP's)
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7:53:16 PM | Solbu | Maybe RobbieF used up todays alotted secret upload quota. :-)
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7:53:47 PM | Guest_4761 | Garbee, got it on chrome. Thanks
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7:53:49 PM | TheFu_ | I'm gonna need to rewatch the news.
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7:54:06 PM | TheFu_ | r-Pi OTA tuner is a good thing.
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7:54:14 PM | bp9 | I keep thinking MY internet is going down but it seems the problem is at the source
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7:54:55 PM | TheFu_ | We have 2 antennas in the attic and 6 tuner here.
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7:55:03 PM | TheFu_ | HDHR FTW!
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7:55:22 PM | alpeck | Just get an HDHomeRun. it comes with 2 tuners.
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7:55:36 PM | GWG | I have the HDHomeRun Prime
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7:56:35 PM | TheFu_ | alpeck, yep. Be certain you have the DLNA compatible HDHR tuners. They do much more than the older HDHR3 models.
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7:56:42 PM | MarshMan | Recording is on
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7:56:45 PM | MarshMan | 😛
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7:56:54 PM | TheFu_ | GWG, does the Prime support OTA ATSC?
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7:56:55 PM | bp9 | bwahahaha
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7:57:09 PM | GWG | TheFu_: I have an older regular one for that
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7:57:12 PM | MarshMan | You slipped on you're duties @bp9
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7:57:43 PM | bp9 | @MarshMan naah, I didn't want to cheese off @RobbieF LOL
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7:58:04 PM | TheFu_ | The HDHR4 can be used from **any** computer that has wget. The r-pi Kodi has a nice addon for live viewing.
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7:58:38 PM | GWG | I may need to upgrade my HDHomerun next sale
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7:59:16 PM | TheFu_ | I've seen them on for $65 "refurb"s
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7:59:39 PM | Solbu | NTSC - Not The Same Color
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7:59:41 PM | GWG | TheFu_: The 4?
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7:59:44 PM | TheFu_ | We get 90 channels here with our antennas.
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7:59:46 PM | bp9 | @MarshMan @RobbieF @SashaR back in the analog days US TV was NTSC. Europe and Australia TV is PAL
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7:59:57 PM | bp9 | Maybe similar problem on digital?
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8:00:18 PM | bp9 | I thought all the digital TV formats were the same regardless of region
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8:00:31 PM | TheFu_ | US broadcast is ATSCv1 now ... it is mpeg2 steams and 20Mbps per frequency.
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8:01:10 PM | TheFu_ | In 2022-ish, ATSCv3 will probably be pushed. I haven't seen which encoding they plan, but h.265/AVC1 are expected.
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8:01:51 PM | TheFu_ | bp9 ... digital what?
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8:02:23 PM | Solbu | RobbieF. MarshMan, Sashas micek just died for 20 seconds.
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8:02:42 PM | TheFu_ | Robbie, that toggle changed Sasha's audio.
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8:02:47 PM | TheFu_ | Back now.
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8:02:51 PM | MarshMan | is it back Solbu
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8:02:55 PM | MarshMan | OK
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8:03:15 PM | MarshMan | did you hear the story?
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8:03:34 PM | TheFu_ | Sasha needs virtualbox - now!
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8:03:41 PM | Solbu | Marshman, it died while she talked..
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8:03:58 PM | Solbu | Marshman, but only for about 15, 20 seconds
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8:04:15 PM | bp9 | @TheFu digital TV format vs. old analog TV format
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8:04:43 PM | TheFu_ | Ah ... NTSC vs ATSCv1 (ooops that's reversed)
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8:05:10 PM | bp9 | Right... and what are the equivalent Australian (PAL) standards?
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8:05:31 PM | TheFu_ | https://www.atsc.org/newsletter/atsc-3-0-where-we-stand/
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8:06:17 PM | TheFu_ | DBD, I think. This is more like what satellite TV uses. Don't quote me.
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8:07:01 PM | TheFu_ | CATV in the USA is planning to move the ATSCv3 encoding too, so the decoding needed by our devices would be standardized again.
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8:07:05 PM | TheFu_ | For the USA.
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8:07:22 PM | bp9 | OK. I wonder if I were to take my US dumb TV (not smart TV) which can catch over-the-air stations in the USA, ship it to Australia, and expect it to work there?
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8:07:45 PM | bp9 | And would netflix, hulu, etc. still work?
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8:08:27 PM | bp9 | I think broadcast TV standards are likely different to internet transmission standards... but I don't know for sure.
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8:09:02 PM | TheFu_ | Doubtful. You'd need a local tuner - probably $20-$40. Do large appliances work using the different voltages there?
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8:09:05 PM | Solbu | I don't trust my ISPs router. I use a GNU/Linux computer that serves as our NAT router where all traffic must go through.
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8:09:23 PM | TheFu_ | In the old days, people would put all their stuff into storage until they returned home when moving overseas.
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8:09:35 PM | bp9 | @TheFu most electronics will accept anywhere from 100 to 240 volts
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8:09:47 PM | bp9 | Australia mains voltage is 240V.
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8:10:01 PM | TheFu_ | The quality new routers have 1 button updates in their admin screens.
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8:10:29 PM | TheFu_ | bp9, I know small electonics does. I wasn't assuming that for desktops, monitors, TVs, etc.
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8:10:34 PM | bp9 | But I just realized you asked about large appliances like fridges, washing machines, dryers, etc. and I'll bet that the will not work if configured for USA 110V operation.
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8:10:59 PM | TheFu_ | Some dryers in the USA use 220V.
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8:11:13 PM | TheFu_ | Actually, I think my fridge does too.
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8:11:24 PM | bp9 | LOL
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8:11:35 PM | bp9 | I think my fridge uses 110V
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8:11:41 PM | TheFu_ | Those funny plugs.
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8:11:52 PM | bp9 | and you're correct about dryers... my bad
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8:12:20 PM | TheFu_ | And don't expect old electric clocks to keep proper time. 50hz vs 60hz.
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8:12:30 PM | MarshMan | My dryer is 110V
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8:12:46 PM | bp9 | @TheFu yeah I wondered if you'd notice that. 😃
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8:13:03 PM | TheFu_ | I've traveled a little. ;)
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8:13:49 PM | bp9 | @TheFu my 1984 Kaypro 2X CP/M machine (surprisingly) started up on both 110 and 240 volts.
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8:13:57 PM | TheFu_ | Odroid should sponsor Cat5
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8:14:04 PM | bp9 | Even with the 50Hz vs. 60Hz difference.
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8:14:13 PM | bp9 | Color me surprised! 😃
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8:15:03 PM | Solbu | In an island on Norways south ewst coast somewhere, Old huses have both 220v and 110v sockets in the wall. When they roled out electricity on the island, a lot of the population sailed across the water to England to buy electric equipment. They still serve both voltages to those houses.
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8:16:45 PM | TheFu_ | Read that 220V + 50Hz is safer. The Americas (Central and North) will probably never change. When power first arrived, 60Hz made lots of sense. Not anymore.
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8:17:30 PM | TheFu_ | I think South America follows the European standards (somewhat).
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8:17:58 PM | bp9 | @MarshMan Great job!
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8:18:02 PM | bp9 | You're hired
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8:18:03 PM | bp9 | 😃
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8:18:52 PM | MarshMan | Thanks
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8:18:59 PM | TheFu_ | Nicely done team!
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8:19:51 PM | SashaR | Marshman is awesome!!!!
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8:20:02 PM | TheFu_ | Australia is 230V/50Hz and funky I-type plug https://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plugs-and-sockets/
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8:20:34 PM | bp9 | now my internet is being al flaky and stuff.
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8:20:36 PM | bp9 | sigh
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8:21:15 PM | SashaR | You guys rock so much for seeing us through 😃
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8:21:30 PM | Dennis_Kelley | great job @MarshMan
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8:21:35 PM | TheFu_ | Showing off your humanity is good.
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8:21:46 PM | bp9 | And YOU rock for persevering even through the tough technical times. 😃
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8:22:16 PM | TheFu_ | I want an H2
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8:26:32 PM | bp9 | Looks like the only one left on stream is the dalek playing with the Cat5 laptop 😃
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8:42:38 PM | Solbu | And of cource when the show is over, the kodi stream starts to behave. Heh.
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8:59:56 PM | RobbieF | was it having trouble Solbu?!
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9:00:38 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Nt untill about 40 minute into the stream, when you had just started the show.
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9:00:49 PM | Solbu | I ahve updated the github issue.
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9:01:28 PM | Solbu | I eventually gave up and looked for the youtube feed.
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9:01:54 PM | RobbieF | k. I had other technical issues this week (unrelated) but will review. Thanks Solbu.
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9:08:44 PM | RobbieF | Great job tonight @MarshMan ‼
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9:15:06 PM | RobbieF | Such an honor to have you and D visit our humble studio. Thanks for joining us on air!
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