| 6:58:32 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Bacon
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| 6:58:34 PM | TheFu | Soup time?
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| 6:58:58 PM | bigkitty | hi
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| 6:59:20 PM | bigkitty | thime for
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| 6:59:25 PM | orangeman | i can see the show
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| 6:59:27 PM | orangeman | now
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| 6:59:32 PM | MarshMan | @SashaR Joke of the day?
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| 6:59:40 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I Jeff Sasha and Robbie
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| 6:59:44 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hi
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| 7:00:46 PM | MarshMan | @SashaR you need a hair clip 😃
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| 7:00:51 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF you need to move your camera angle up a bit to allow for the hair bwahahaha
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| 7:01:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | sound is picked up in other mic
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| 7:01:24 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Did you hide the live stream on Youtube's listing?
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| 7:01:28 PM | Dennis_Kelley | right
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| 7:01:39 PM | Dennis_Kelley | yes right pedels
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| 7:01:56 PM | MarshMan | She is wearing it @SashaR
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| 7:02:00 PM | Dennis_Kelley | correct pedels
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| 7:02:09 PM | bp9 | Yes the mute padals sounds correct
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| 7:02:19 PM | TheFu | If you don't say you are pressing a peddle, how can we tell?
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| 7:02:27 PM | Garbee | Oh, hi Jeff.
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| 7:02:32 PM | Garbee | You're still here?
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| 7:02:34 PM | TheFu | Cars have 3 peddles, right?
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| 7:02:55 PM | bigkitty | ya
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| 7:03:04 PM | Garbee | You are live.
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| 7:03:07 PM | agamotto | Pedals, yes
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| 7:03:09 PM | Garbee | http://live.cat5.tv
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| 7:03:12 PM | Dennis_Kelley | no one!!
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| 7:03:23 PM | Garbee | Which really should be HTTPS by now. ROBBIE!
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| 7:03:31 PM | Garbee | 😉 😉 nudge nudge
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| 7:04:14 PM | MarshMan | So @RobbieF we have no souls now?
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| 7:04:34 PM | agamotto | Early chef training...
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| 7:05:06 PM | agamotto | Discord is taking off?
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| 7:05:07 PM | Garbee | Oh, it does work on HTTPS.
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| 7:05:15 PM | Garbee | So why don't your forward to HTTPS?
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| 7:05:20 PM | TheFu | agamotto, no. Stay on IRC!
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| 7:05:22 PM | MarshMan | NO!!!!!!
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| 7:05:26 PM | Garbee | Such poor management here at Cat5. 😛
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| 7:05:31 PM | Garbee | Still not right.
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| 7:05:33 PM | MarshMan | ❤
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| 7:05:34 PM | Garbee | HTTP -
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| 7:05:36 PM | MarshMan | ❤
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| 7:05:37 PM | Garbee | No I don't.
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| 7:05:41 PM | Garbee | I expect secure forwards.
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| 7:05:50 PM | agamotto | TheFu, I was thinking of using it to replace Facebook, not IRC.
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| 7:05:53 PM | alpeck | i am watching https://live.cat5.tv
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| 7:06:11 PM | TheFu | agamotto, review the privacy policy carefully.
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| 7:06:26 PM | Garbee | Now Robbie is wishing my guy did have me away for the whole show.
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| 7:06:26 PM | agamotto | TheFu, As bad as Facebook then?
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| 7:06:41 PM | Garbee | I've started this one by badgering him about the security of the live stream page.
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| 7:07:05 PM | TheFu | agamotto, I don't recall, but after reading my decision was, nope.
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| 7:07:15 PM | agamotto | TheFu, poo
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| 7:07:18 PM | Garbee | Charming?
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| 7:07:22 PM | Garbee | Ginger sure, but charming?
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| 7:07:42 PM | bp9 | Who is that hirsute red fella?
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| 7:07:53 PM | TheFu | I block about 50 facebook domains at the network layer, so if they hope to violate privacy, it is very hard for them.
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| 7:08:20 PM | Garbee | Yea, most of the national stuff there is free entry.
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| 7:08:26 PM | Blokey | good evening all
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| 7:08:33 PM | Garbee | Just LONG lines if you go during a school visit season.
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| 7:09:16 PM | TheFu | Jeff, did you get out to the Air and Space annex at Dulles?
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| 7:09:23 PM | Garbee | Yea, if it falls on the weekdays here people typically go weekend before.
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| 7:09:54 PM | Garbee | You shoulda come to Virginia Sasha.
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| 7:10:18 PM | TheFu | I heard that Canada has mountains too.
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| 7:10:39 PM | Garbee | TheFu, they're covered in ice.
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| 7:10:53 PM | agamotto | I used to love bicycling around Manassass Park when I was a much younger
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| 7:10:57 PM | TheFu | Not always.
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| 7:11:07 PM | MarshMan | So Sasha drove past the mountains of Ny and Pa to get to WV
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| 7:11:09 PM | Garbee | "not always" ha
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| 7:11:12 PM | TheFu | agamotto, I lived in Fairfax, VA.
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| 7:11:28 PM | SashaR | yepper... I heard those were the best mountains
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| 7:11:35 PM | agamotto | Sasha was going for the OxyContin...
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| 7:11:50 PM | agamotto | Kidnip?
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| 7:12:17 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Sasha my parents live in North Carolina in the mountains. Close to WV
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| 7:12:21 PM | Garbee | My grandmother bought a bag of candy "because we won't get anyone" ... I netted some snickers. It was worth it.
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| 7:12:31 PM | TheFu | DK - Boone is wonderful!
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| 7:12:56 PM | TheFu | We do family meetings there every fall during leaf season.
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| 7:13:14 PM | Dennis_Kelley | TheFu, its all beautiful in that area
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| 7:13:24 PM | agamotto | You can't 'trick' in most places now for people suing you over soiled pants...
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| 7:13:30 PM | TheFu | Well, except the cell coverage sucks.
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| 7:13:56 PM | Dennis_Kelley | TheFu = Right!
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| 7:16:05 PM | TheFu | DK - in summer, I love how the locals wear old clothes and slide down the streams on the rocks that have become smooth.
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| 7:16:56 PM | MarshMan | Is it me or is @RobbieF 's mic quieter than the others?
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| 7:17:05 PM | bp9 | Yup
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| 7:17:23 PM | bp9 | That;s what I was trying to tell Robbie earlier.
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| 7:18:06 PM | Solbu | MarshMan: Maybe he's practicing being modest. :-)
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| 7:18:13 PM | SashaR | still really quiet?
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| 7:18:14 PM | MarshMan | Hah!!
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| 7:18:29 PM | MarshMan | a bit yes
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| 7:18:36 PM | bp9 | Not super quiet, just a bit fainter than everyone else's mic
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| 7:18:41 PM | Blokey | Volume levels seem ok to me?
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| 7:18:42 PM | TheFu | If Jeff is 90%, then Robbie is 85%.
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| 7:19:03 PM | MarshMan | Jeff is always louder 😛
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| 7:20:29 PM | agamotto | I don't bother with any of that... do I get some energy credits for saving?
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| 7:20:51 PM | TheFu | I thought they said copper, but I could be wrong.
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| 7:21:28 PM | MarshMan | Wing Dings!!
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| 7:21:31 PM | TheFu | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/05/energy-cost-of-mining-bitcoin-more-than-twice-that-of-copper-or-gold
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| 7:21:44 PM | TheFu | More than twice that to mine copper or gold.
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| 7:23:21 PM | TheFu | I thought Sasha's computer was a year old?
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| 7:23:33 PM | MarshMan | Work pc
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| 7:23:38 PM | bp9 | @Sasha's work computer, I think
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| 7:25:35 PM | TheFu | I thought MS-Word reads ODT just fine?
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| 7:27:32 PM | MarshMan | ❤
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| 7:28:05 PM | agamotto | I just laugh when people complain about ODT files not 'working...'
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| 7:28:09 PM | TheFu | Formating is always an issue.
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| 7:28:28 PM | TheFu | Different fonts, different layouts.
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| 7:29:30 PM | TheFu | Excel Macros don't translate into Calc, IME.
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| 7:30:17 PM | MarshMan | I switched from Roku to the web site and the mic balalnce is better??
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| 7:30:47 PM | MarshMan | And Roku has a twenty five second lag
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| 7:30:54 PM | TheFu | ChromiumOS or ChromeOS?
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| 7:31:05 PM | MarshMan | turn the mic down
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| 7:31:18 PM | bp9 | It's OK @RobbieF We see the flashing red light on the back of your screen LOL
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| 7:31:34 PM | MarshMan | @robb you will not win with me
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| 7:31:41 PM | bp9 | @SashaR I laughed Out Load and scared my cat off my lap!
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| 7:32:15 PM | MarshMan | bwahahahah
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| 7:32:17 PM | bp9 | (your off-key comment)
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| 7:32:27 PM | agamotto | Silence! Or, I will kill you all!
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| 7:32:31 PM | MarshMan | @SashaR where is your new coat?
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| 7:33:32 PM | TheFu | Sasha becoming a Buddhist?
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| 7:33:42 PM | bp9 | run, @SashaR Run!
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| 7:34:20 PM | bp9 | Must be getting cold up there in Canada LOL
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| 7:35:28 PM | MarshMan | My favorite time while in Barrie
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| 7:35:32 PM | bp9 | We have mid 50's here right now
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| 7:35:40 PM | MarshMan | Sasha hid a coat price and had me guess I was off by more than $1000.00
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| 7:36:14 PM | Blokey | 6C or 1C with windchill here atm
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| 7:36:48 PM | MarshMan | Puppy
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| 7:36:51 PM | Solbu | agamotto: Carefull, or I'll have Walter gas you in your suitcase – again. :-)
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| 7:37:06 PM | TheFu | Lubuntu or TinyCore.
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| 7:37:56 PM | bp9 | cloud = someone else's computer
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| 7:38:20 PM | TheFu | For more Chromebooks, you can wipe the included OS and install a Linux. Works fine, unless the CPU is very low-end.
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| 7:38:36 PM | Solbu | Stallman would be prou… err, pulling his hair.
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| 7:38:56 PM | Blokey | Chromebooks don't usually have much storage space?
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| 7:39:19 PM | bp9 | Right because all your stuff is in the cloud
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| 7:39:45 PM | TheFu | I have a Toshiba 2015 chromebook w/ Core i3 CPU, 1080p, sub-3 lbs, 10+ hrs of battery.
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| 7:40:23 PM | TheFu | Blokey, on my Chromebooks, they ahve an m.2 SSD which can be swapped.
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| 7:40:52 PM | TheFu | Plus Linux doesn't need 60G for the OS.
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| 7:41:53 PM | MarshMan | 🖖
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| 7:42:08 PM | TheFu | Chromebook hardware tied to ChromeOS is probably the most secure computing available today that gets on a neetwork.
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| 7:42:22 PM | TheFu | s/neetwork/network/
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| 7:43:18 PM | MarshMan | Friendface
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| 7:43:22 PM | agamotto | So, like a tablet...
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| 7:44:46 PM | Solbu | Cloudready is free of charge, but not Free software.
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| 7:47:00 PM | TheFu | Bet it will be nice inside a VM.
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| 7:47:54 PM | MarshMan | Should give it a try
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| 7:47:55 PM | Blokey | What's the minimum internet speed?
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| 7:48:31 PM | TheFu | Blokey, huh?
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| 7:49:13 PM | TheFu | The great thing about ChromeOS is the automatic patch management and fantastic security at the OS+HW level.
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| 7:49:21 PM | Blokey | Is there a minimum internet connection required?
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| 7:49:47 PM | Solbu | Jeff, SashaR: What happens with such a system if for whatever reason the internet connection is gone? A «cloud OS» is often useless without internet access.
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| 7:49:50 PM | TheFu | The bad thing about ChromiumOS is no patch management. Upgrades are a wipe + install.
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| 7:50:00 PM | TheFu | Blokey, Depends on what you do.
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| 7:50:37 PM | TheFu | Solbu, GoogleDocs work offline.
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| 7:50:55 PM | Solbu | TheFu: I ask for the benefit of other viewers. :-)
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| 7:51:31 PM | TheFu | ChromeOS/ChromiumOS are great for travel!
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| 7:51:57 PM | TheFu | RobbieF - Testify!
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| 7:51:58 PM | agamotto | ChromeOS does it all for you
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| 7:52:30 PM | TheFu | Used Chromebooks are found for $80.
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| 7:53:12 PM | TheFu | agamotto, ChromeOS forces updates and there isn't any way to prevent them.
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| 7:55:32 PM | Blokey | I have an old Acer that needs a new hdd (will be an ssd) I'll try this on.
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| 7:57:05 PM | TheFu | If you are into the Cloudy services and keep everything in the cloud (damn the privacy!), then chromeOS/ChromiumOS are a great option.
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| 7:57:38 PM | TheFu | I'd think there was an ARM version of ChromiumOS ... let me google.
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| 7:58:25 PM | Dennis_Kelley | working great!
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| 7:58:26 PM | bp9 | Fish and Chips!
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| 7:58:45 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF feed is excellent on Roku so far
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| 7:58:55 PM | TheFu | https://flintos.io/ ... ARM with ChromiumOS - for Jeff
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| 7:58:57 PM | Blokey | I'm waiting for show to end to go cook some egg and chips
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| 8:00:02 PM | MarshMan | Neverware is going to acquire FlintOS
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| 8:00:21 PM | Solbu | The kodi stream was just fine, up untill now,. when it started craping out – as usual
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| 8:00:47 PM | TheFu | Solbu, fine here on kodi ... so far.
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| 8:00:54 PM | MarshMan | There is a download of FlintOS for RPi
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| 8:01:03 PM | Solbu | … as usual.. heh.
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| 8:01:19 PM | TheFu | Rep. "They" know it is you.
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| 8:01:41 PM | MarshMan | There is a FlintOS download for TinkerBoard
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| 8:01:53 PM | Blokey | All fine here but i'm less than an hour's drive away
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| 8:01:57 PM | bp9 | Roku is good
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| 8:03:06 PM | MarshMan | do do do
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| 8:03:23 PM | Dennis_Kelley | TheFu that is something I can use FlintOS looking for a light web interface for my pi
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| 8:03:36 PM | Solbu | jeff: It's fine now, thou. Something happened when robbie reinstalled one of the main cat5 systems (the recorder system?) and it's been unstable since. But today has been good in comparison.
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| 8:04:12 PM | bp9 | Torvalds
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| 8:04:21 PM | MarshMan | Bacon
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| 8:13:37 PM | bp9 | Quiet too LOL
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| 8:13:59 PM | bp9 | Digesting bacon
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| 8:14:08 PM | TheFu | There's no fix. Nothing can be done.
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| 8:14:19 PM | bp9 | Blame @MarshMan
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| 8:14:22 PM | bp9 | LOL
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| 8:14:37 PM | MarshMan | What did I do now?
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| 8:14:46 PM | bp9 | bacon LOL
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| 8:14:49 PM | MarshMan | oh bacon
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| 8:14:55 PM | MarshMan | my bad
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| 8:14:57 PM | TheFu | Secret websites aren't on the internet. That's Rule #1 of SECOPS.
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| 8:14:59 PM | bp9 | hee hee
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| 8:15:22 PM | MarshMan | 🥓 🥓 🥓 🥓
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| 8:15:44 PM | TheFu | And don't forget that https://www.shodan.io/ is always crawling the web too.
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| 8:16:53 PM | agamotto | I need to go make dinner
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| 8:17:08 PM | bp9 | Enjoy your dinner!
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| 8:17:15 PM | bp9 | Make sure it includes bacon
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| 8:17:18 PM | bp9 | 😃
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| 8:17:44 PM | TheFu | Upper management has political or business degrees, not Computer Security.
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| 8:18:14 PM | TheFu | CIA makes all sorts of OPSEC failures.
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| 8:18:29 PM | bp9 | I keep hearing "communication channels" but that means nothing without properly encrypted messges
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| 8:19:15 PM | bp9 | Don't assume anything traveling over a channel is secure unless it is independently encrypted using public-private key encryption at least.
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| 8:19:34 PM | TheFu | Only Neil Breen knows everything.
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| 8:20:26 PM | TheFu | Double Down - the greatest spy movie ever!
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| 8:21:25 PM | TheFu | CIA agents have been traced because they used their real names to get hotel reservations overseas and wanted the airline points.
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| 8:24:57 PM | TheFu | Did you see the Facebook stuff on PBS this week? They did a 2-part on how FB is used to splinter politics around the world.
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| 8:25:15 PM | TheFu | Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T48KFiHwexM
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| 8:25:23 PM | TheFu | Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuA4qxPbpQE
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| 8:25:33 PM | TheFu | PBS-Frontline episodes.
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| 8:27:24 PM | TheFu | OPSEC failures of Spies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwGsr3SzCZc
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| 8:29:13 PM | bp9 | @SashaR They may not be native english speakers
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| 8:29:22 PM | MarshMan | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495592877733183489/509902208536543252/TickBlueMMscale.jpg
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| 8:31:30 PM | TheFu | Candy coated? Yummy!
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| 8:31:43 PM | bp9 | bacon!
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| 8:36:19 PM | TheFu | Robbie isn't the normal phone buyer.
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| 8:37:16 PM | TheFu | But the iPhone "just works"
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| 8:38:06 PM | MarshMan | Oh @SashaR I love you
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| 8:38:14 PM | TheFu | MM - she is great!
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| 8:38:43 PM | TheFu | Where is FOSSDOM this year?
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| 8:40:01 PM | MarshMan | Hey @RobbieF just to confuse things: http://wiki.radxa.com/News/2018/11/introduce-the-new-rockpi-4-hardware
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| 8:40:27 PM | SashaR | I love you all!!!
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| 8:40:35 PM | TheFu | Jeff ... a rpi BBQ monitoring system?
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| 8:40:38 PM | bp9 | Time for @MarshMan to co-host another show LOL
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| 8:40:48 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Be Safe @Jeff Weston
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| 8:42:01 PM | SashaR | Time to log off momentarily whilst I drive home 😃
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| 8:44:01 PM | TheFu | Sasha - not biking home?
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| 8:44:26 PM | Solbu | Good to see you back on the show Jeff. We missed you. :-)
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| 8:44:31 PM | MarshMan | I would love to @bp9 especially instaed og havin the test that I need to have done
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| 8:44:44 PM | TheFu | I biked to/from work every day living in ND.
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| 8:44:53 PM | TheFu | Layers. ;)
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| 8:45:27 PM | bp9 | ouch @MarshMan !!
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| 8:45:45 PM | bp9 | bye @Jeff Weston !!
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| 8:45:55 PM | MarshMan | Cystography - look it up
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| 8:46:05 PM | bp9 | great show as always!
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| 8:46:25 PM | TheFu | MM - I know it well.
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| 8:46:36 PM | MarshMan | sorry
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| 8:46:49 PM | TheFu | Reminds me of that scene in Fletch.
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| 8:47:05 PM | bp9 | double ouch since I think I know wht it is without even looking it up
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| 8:47:21 PM | MarshMan | yup
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| 8:47:33 PM | TheFu | Runs in my family too. ;(
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| 8:50:47 PM | bp9 | I guess I didn't type enough today... everyone leveled up except me
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| 8:50:48 PM | bp9 | boo
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| 8:51:18 PM | MarshMan | I didn't either
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| 8:51:30 PM | MarshMan | looooong way to go
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| 8:57:01 PM | bp9 | So I know who @Blobby McBlobface and @IRC Bridge is.
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| 8:57:01 PM | bp9 | Who is @Sean DeSitely ?
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| 8:57:10 PM | bp9 | (all bots)
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| 8:59:43 PM | MarshMan | it's a way to embed Discord on a web page
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| 9:00:15 PM | MarshMan | Sean. not like Shawn but more like Seein'
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| 9:00:29 PM | MarshMan | Just a guess
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| 9:01:16 PM | MarshMan | Or maybe Showin'?
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| 9:04:07 PM | bp9 | Yeah it reads to me like "Seein'" but I know that Sean is pronounced "Shawn"
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| 9:05:08 PM | bp9 | I thought discord was already embedded -- like discordapp.com
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| 9:06:28 PM | MarshMan | @RobbieF would know.
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| 9:06:38 PM | MarshMan | Crashing early
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| 9:06:50 PM | MarshMan | Goodnight all
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| 9:06:57 PM | bp9 | No worries -- have a good night!
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| 9:06:58 PM | RobbieF | Night bro
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| 9:08:20 PM | RobbieF | Bp9 click interact and view discord without account on our site
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| 9:08:49 PM | bp9 | stand by -- doing that now
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| 9:08:59 PM | RobbieF | Meet sean :)
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| 9:09:46 PM | bp9 | Not Found The requested URL /interact.php was not found on this server. Apache/2.4.25 (Debian) Server at www.category5.tv Port 443
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| 9:10:08 PM | bp9 | https://www.category5.tv/interact/
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| 9:12:35 PM | bp9 | Oh OK it works through the menu system
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| 9:12:49 PM | bp9 | (that I can't see because it's white on a light green logo LOL
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| 9:13:27 PM | bp9 | That looks suspiciously like the chat room on the live feed 😃
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| 9:16:11 PM | RobbieF | That it is.
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| 9:16:18 PM | RobbieF | Sean makes it all possible.
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| 9:21:15 PM | bp9 | Well that's just cool.
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| 9:21:49 PM | bp9 | Also, great show tonight, I loved the pre-show banter that just sort of flowed right into the show. 😃
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