| 6:58:14 PM | MarshMan | A hot dog on a bun is not a sandwich cuz the bun is one piece and not two
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| 6:58:22 PM | MarshMan | So the argument goes
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| 6:58:26 PM | TheFu | Not me. Don't really "do" ads or tweets.
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| 6:58:43 PM | TheFu | https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/07/24/big-dairy-is-going-after-your-almond-milk/
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| 6:59:01 PM | MarshMan | Do you ever leave the house/cave? 😛
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| 6:59:16 PM | MarshMan | Bunker?
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| 6:59:23 PM | TheFu | Mom's basement?
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| 7:00:05 PM | bp9 | I see the live feed now
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| 7:00:21 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream is working.
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| 7:00:58 PM | bp9 | Ooooh @Sasha is that the black or dark green hoodie you're wearing?
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| 7:01:05 PM | bp9 | I'm trying to decide on color.
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| 7:01:28 PM | bp9 | May have to get one of each 😃
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| 7:01:55 PM | MarshMan | Cliff The Fu Clavin
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| 7:02:17 PM | TheFu | good audio.
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| 7:02:21 PM | Solbu | No echo.
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| 7:02:36 PM | MarshMan | negative
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| 7:04:03 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan, after last week I have a question for you. Rockland or Orange? 8-)
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| 7:04:35 PM | BobK54 | 756! I win! Haha, my fitbit has been on my desk all day
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| 7:04:36 PM | MarshMan | K has been allowed to leave the dinner tsable to watch Cat5
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| 7:05:05 PM | MarshMan | Ulster
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| 7:06:12 PM | citadelofswords | i have my dinner with me though
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| 7:06:15 PM | citadelofswords | small victories
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| 7:06:29 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan, so let's see...Esopus, Kingston, New Paltz or somewhere to the west?
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| 7:06:40 PM | MarshMan | New Paltz
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| 7:07:15 PM | bp9 | The crew is easily amused LOL
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| 7:07:50 PM | bp9 | Change the text on the button again @RobbieF
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| 7:08:14 PM | MarshMan | Mrs M just yelled BACON!
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| 7:08:31 PM | MarshMan | Nothin g you would like @SashaR
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| 7:08:47 PM | Solbu | And … press Record.
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| 7:09:07 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan, very nice! 32 from NooBoig to NP is a nice ride...or used to be but the Thruway is faster.
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| 7:09:53 PM | MarshMan | Still a nice ride ABQTKY. I live south of the village anyway
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| 7:10:26 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan Excellent!!
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| 7:12:44 PM | BobK54 | pfffft testing. overrated
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| 7:12:53 PM | GWG | What did I miss? My neighbor showed up to have me fix his iPhone
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| 7:12:55 PM | bigkitty | is the stream working?
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| 7:13:06 PM | GWG | On a side note, I don't know anything about iPhones
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| 7:13:22 PM | MarshMan | We are live!
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| 7:14:01 PM | bigkitty | website still shows last weeks episode?
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| 7:17:45 PM | MarshMan | doo doo doooo
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| 7:17:53 PM | TheFu | checklist item?
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| 7:18:31 PM | MarshMan | @SashaR I luv voluntold!!
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| 7:18:38 PM | MarshMan | Awesome word!
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| 7:18:39 PM | GWG | There's a checklist?
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| 7:18:52 PM | GWG | The first item should be to check the checklist
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| 7:18:57 PM | SashaR | We are fixing the link thing 😃
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| 7:21:47 PM | bigkitty | yay! working!
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| 7:21:58 PM | MarshMan | ❤
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| 7:22:14 PM | bp9 | Here's a discord question: I haven't logged in for a few days, but when I logged in this morning, discord only showed me messages from this morning, not my last login a few days ago.
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| 7:22:17 PM | bp9 | Any idea why?
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| 7:24:36 PM | BobK54 | amazon has a version of that sd card holder that also has a standard sd card adapter slot
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| 7:24:56 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF how does static electricity affect those SD cards in that holder?
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| 7:25:48 PM | MarshMan | @RobbieF I am using a 3A brick with no issues
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| 7:26:07 PM | BobK54 | https://www.amazon.com/Micro-SD-card-holder-BLUE/dp/B006J73RAI/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1542846332&sr=8-8&keywords=micro+sd+card+holder
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| 7:27:17 PM | bp9 | BobK54 I've had one of those units fail when I lost the write protect thingy in the adapter. The computer decided it was write protected and would not write to the card.
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| 7:27:47 PM | MarshMan | OMG he soldered!!
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| 7:27:54 PM | bp9 | 😃
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| 7:28:32 PM | MarshMan | 116A to spare
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| 7:28:33 PM | BobK54 | @bp9 well thats not good! I rarely use the standard SD size so I didnt run into that problem.
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| 7:29:34 PM | bp9 | Yeah so I don't use them any more. Instead I use a 72-to-1 adapter that takes all kinds of cards and plugs into a regular USB port.
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| 7:29:35 PM | MarshMan | Sayal has ALMOST everything
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| 7:29:38 PM | bp9 | Works much better.
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| 7:29:54 PM | MarshMan | LOVE that store!
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| 7:30:44 PM | BobK54 | that multi adapter is what I use in the car to play music/podcasts off the micro sd card. the micro sd also fits my cheap mp3 player so I can go either way
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| 7:30:57 PM | GWG | Eleduino, not aleduino
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| 7:31:00 PM | GWG | Never mind
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| 7:32:19 PM | MarshMan | No XU4?? 😮
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| 7:34:56 PM | MarshMan | No XU4?? 😮
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| 7:36:49 PM | bp9 | So I got that wrong -- I thought the more giggles the better.
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| 7:36:56 PM | BobK54 | yell out the current time so I can see if I am behind
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| 7:37:46 PM | BobK54 | ok, I'm current apparently. THANKS
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| 7:37:49 PM | bp9 | BobK54, just watch for your message on the chat and you can figure out the latency from that.
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| 7:43:44 PM | bp9 | So the best giggle value comes from low price and high performance
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| 7:44:14 PM | SashaR | That's exactly it 😃
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| 7:44:47 PM | bp9 | Excellent!
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| 7:46:15 PM | bp9 | I feel like these SBCs can go a long way performance wise, especially since they each run linux if I understand correctly.
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| 7:46:54 PM | bp9 | But I'd probably still use a general computer (laptop, etc) instead of an SBC
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| 7:47:47 PM | bp9 | And I like that an arduino will just recover and keep on running when power goes out and comes back...
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| 7:55:30 PM | MarshMan | OH PLEASE! Worrying about your age!
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| 7:55:47 PM | MarshMan | Did you see all of my greys?
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| 7:56:12 PM | bp9 | Good job pressing record @RobbieF
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| 7:56:13 PM | bp9 | :-0
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| 7:56:54 PM | bp9 | I rasPi as well, just make sure you shut that puppy down properly.
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| 7:57:33 PM | MarshMan | Can you say corruption?
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| 7:57:44 PM | bp9 | oooohh yeah
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| 7:57:48 PM | bp9 | been there done that
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| 7:58:40 PM | MarshMan | I see no grey @SashaR
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| 7:59:00 PM | MarshMan | or gray
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| 8:04:49 PM | MarshMan | Ubuntu would outlast the toaster
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| 8:04:56 PM | MarshMan | and thr fridge
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| 8:05:14 PM | GWG | The Quirky Egg minder is still getting security updates and it isn't supported by its manufacturer anymore
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| 8:05:34 PM | MarshMan | There you go
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| 8:05:52 PM | GWG | Of course, why someone thought an internet connected egg tray was a good idea is beyond me
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| 8:06:05 PM | MarshMan | LOL
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| 8:06:43 PM | MarshMan | Remember, Target was hacked thru their air conditioner
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| 8:08:04 PM | TheFu | Sasha, your smartphone uses a SIM? SIM cards can be cloned. Effectively, someone else can become you, since they have your phone.
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| 8:08:35 PM | MarshMan | The text tells you it expires.
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| 8:08:38 PM | MarshMan | Usually
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| 8:08:51 PM | TheFu | But they've taken over your smartphone.
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| 8:09:15 PM | TheFu | Changed your bank login
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| 8:09:17 PM | GWG | Exploits are extremely valuable on the market
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| 8:10:05 PM | MarshMan | @Henry Baillie-Brown your mic moved way away from your mouth
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| 8:10:13 PM | TheFu | If they control your phone number, most businesses will trust that person with just a little extra proof.
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| 8:10:39 PM | TheFu | https://www.wired.com/2016/06/hey-stop-using-texts-two-factor-authentication/
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| 8:11:58 PM | GWG | I'll go to my local cell phone shop and tell them I'm Sasha Rickman and see how it works out
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| 8:14:30 PM | SashaR | It may work
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| 8:15:30 PM | TheFu | 430 GT here!
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| 8:15:44 PM | MarshMan | Integrated video here
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| 8:15:48 PM | MarshMan | 😛
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| 8:16:04 PM | TheFu | Love the iGPUs!
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| 8:16:39 PM | TheFu | Lockheeeeeeed / Martin.
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| 8:16:47 PM | bp9 | LOL
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| 8:17:01 PM | TheFu | One of my former employers. ;(
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| 8:17:08 PM | MarshMan | @SashaR said she had some words that were going to trip her up
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| 8:17:15 PM | MarshMan | Guess we found them
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| 8:17:44 PM | MarshMan | Dirt that isn't dirt cheap
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| 8:17:56 PM | SashaR | lol... yep
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| 8:18:06 PM | ABQTKY | TheFu, how about the original spelling of Lockheed??
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| 8:18:18 PM | TheFu | Just put it in the calendar.
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| 8:18:54 PM | TheFu | I only worked for that company a few months after they bought the part of Loral I worked at.
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| 8:19:13 PM | bp9 | Arrival
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| 8:19:14 PM | MarshMan | Remember there were credits
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| 8:19:29 PM | ABQTKY | TheFu, so were you in Westchester or some such place??
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| 8:19:30 PM | MarshMan | and people in it
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| 8:19:30 PM | bp9 | District 9?
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| 8:19:32 PM | TheFu | "life"
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| 8:19:51 PM | MarshMan | ABQTKY, I work in Manhattan
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| 8:19:57 PM | TheFu | ABQTKY, nope. Houston.
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| 8:20:02 PM | TheFu | And Marietta
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| 8:20:44 PM | GWG | Earth Dirt?
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| 8:20:54 PM | GWG | Earth is dirt
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| 8:21:06 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan, the bus terminal to NP, back and forth every day? Oy!!
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| 8:21:07 PM | TheFu | Japan is returning samples from another asteroid - next year?
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| 8:21:22 PM | bp9 | GW, Earth dirt vs. Mars Dirt LOL
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| 8:21:46 PM | MarshMan | ABQTKY, Yup, Oy covers it
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| 8:22:24 PM | ABQTKY | TheFu, Houston is just the western suburbs of NY.
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| 8:22:48 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan, Oy DOESN'T quite cover it. 8-(
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| 8:22:49 PM | TheFu | Different pronunciation, methinks.
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| 8:23:18 PM | bp9 | YAY, excellent job @RobbieF @SashaR @Henry Baillie-Brown
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| 8:23:50 PM | MarshMan | ABQTKY, Lost a lot of my life commuting
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| 8:23:54 PM | BobK54 | good show as usual! night all
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| 8:24:19 PM | SashaR | Thank you everyone 😃 😃
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| 8:24:22 PM | TheFu | Checklist update Robbie?
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| 8:24:32 PM | ABQTKY | But you can watch Category5 on Wednesdays on the bus, right?
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| 8:25:04 PM | BobK54 | Logitech K400, has integral mouse pad too
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| 8:25:05 PM | MarshMan | I did one time. Watched the show on one phone and used Discord on another
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| 8:26:04 PM | MarshMan | Get the story update in 2023
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| 8:26:09 PM | Solbu | A pen is an old school printer.
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| 8:27:11 PM | TheFu | Anyone use GTD methods still?
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| 8:27:15 PM | MarshMan | Like carbon paper is old school copier
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| 8:27:26 PM | TheFu | with a better smell.
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| 8:27:30 PM | bp9 | No but I found taskwarrior and I love it
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| 8:27:36 PM | bp9 | Works on linux and android
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| 8:27:41 PM | ABQTKY | A pen is like a 9 pin dot matrix printer.
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| 8:28:14 PM | MarshMan | TheFu, what about mimeograph? That was a GOOD smell
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| 8:29:58 PM | bp9 | I always like to watch the live show. I'm glad my interwebs held out long enough that I could watch it all the way through.
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| 8:30:32 PM | bp9 | OMG @MarshMan good memories!
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| 8:30:36 PM | TheFu | MM - you are correct. My mind isn't as good as I vaguely remember it being.
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| 8:31:07 PM | TheFu | Hey - zero stutters or buffering with the show tonight! Yippy!
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| 8:31:57 PM | MarshMan | When I went for my passport a few months ago the clerk at the Post Office used a piece of tattered carbon paper.
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| 8:32:08 PM | MarshMan | Could not believe my eyes.
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| 8:32:38 PM | GWG | MarshMan, budget cuts
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| 8:32:44 PM | TheFu | Been anywhere interesting with it? I like to travel.
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| 8:33:34 PM | MarshMan | Just Barrie, Ontario Canada
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| 8:33:46 PM | TheFu | Ah. Heard something about that.
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| 8:33:48 PM | TheFu | ;)
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| 8:34:30 PM | GWG | I just went to Germany
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| 8:34:32 PM | TheFu | Last time I was in Canada a passport wasn't needed.
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| 8:34:41 PM | TheFu | Which part of DE?
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| 8:34:52 PM | GWG | I was in Berlin for a conference and did some touring
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| 8:35:10 PM | GWG | I got to see the place in between the inner and outer wall where they would shoot people if they entered
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| 8:35:33 PM | MarshMan | I just came out of the office from watching the show and everone left. I am home alone.
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| 8:35:47 PM | TheFu | My heritage is German, but I've never gone. Been close, but the airfares to get there are never a good deal, it seems.
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| 8:35:49 PM | GWG | I'm moving furniture. But I'm making progress.
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| 8:36:05 PM | GWG | TheFu: No one in my family has been there since my grandparents met in a displaced persons camp after the war
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| 8:36:16 PM | RobbieF | \o Hope ya'll enjoyed the show!!
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| 8:36:27 PM | MarshMan | I did
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| 8:36:28 PM | bp9 | Yes sir it was excellent.
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| 8:36:43 PM | TheFu | YEp - no video stutters or audio issues at all tonight!
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| 8:36:52 PM | RobbieF | WOW @TheFu!!!
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| 8:37:17 PM | RobbieF | Was my description of Giggles clear and [hopefully] exciting?
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| 8:37:18 PM | GWG | RobbieF, someone today at work wished a Canadian a Happy Thanksgiving. I thought of you.
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| 8:37:18 PM | TheFu | It's all you!
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| 8:37:32 PM | GWG | RobbieF, why is it called a Giggle again?
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| 8:37:40 PM | RobbieF | aww thanks GWG 😛
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| 8:37:53 PM | RobbieF | GWG because that's what I named it. 😛
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| 8:38:30 PM | TheFu | I understood the goal of giggles. Don't understand the RAM/CPU/something else merged scoring, but I like details for new benchmarks.
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| 8:39:34 PM | TheFu | And does the "price" part include power, case, storage addons? Are the prices pulled from some known vendor or manually entered from real purchases?
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| 8:40:32 PM | MarshMan | I used the price from the websites
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| 8:40:46 PM | MarshMan | RPi is $35
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| 8:41:07 PM | MarshMan | Unless you get it from Amazon with their markup
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| 8:41:16 PM | GWG | RobbieF: I got that. Why though?
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| 8:41:18 PM | MarshMan | I used the Pine64 site too
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| 8:41:38 PM | TheFu | shipping?
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| 8:42:04 PM | MarshMan | No just the price of the board, shipping can vary too much
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| 8:43:33 PM | TheFu | Good to know and no disagreement, just the addons cost relatively more for cheaper systems, which could impact the giggle-value if included.
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| 8:44:42 PM | MarshMan | True but you can get a Pi case for $5 or $15 shouldn't factor in
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| 8:45:31 PM | MarshMan | Actually, I had a printout of a folding paper case back when I got my first Pi B
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| 8:45:36 PM | TheFu | "cheapest available case" for each SBC ... but I'd never run any SBC without a case.
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| 8:45:50 PM | MarshMan | Too true
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| 8:47:46 PM | bp9 | You won't need hardly any editing at all 😃
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| 8:48:26 PM | bp9 | That one was for @RobbieF from about 20 mins ago when we were talking about the show. LOL
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| 8:53:20 PM | RobbieF | @lukasz make sure you check out Episode 583 if you didn't see it live. Your boards excelled more than we could have expected. Next week we put the Rock64 and RockPro64 (this week's champions) up against the ODROID XU4Q and the NanoPi M4.
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| 8:55:22 PM | MarshMan | I am living the Home Alone movie
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| 8:55:38 PM | MarshMan | They left me alone with a half gallon of ice cream
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| 8:57:38 PM | bp9 | yummy!
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| 8:58:02 PM | MarshMan | Yeah, this won't last
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| 8:58:09 PM | bp9 | :-
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| 9:15:10 PM | MarshMan | Thought so, ice cream is gone and they came home.
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| 9:16:42 PM | MarshMan | @RobbieF I was on the FriendlyElec site checking out the NanoPi Neo4
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| 9:16:48 PM | MarshMan | https://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=241
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| 9:17:50 PM | RobbieF | Oh wow
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| 9:17:53 PM | RobbieF | look at the size!
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| 9:18:06 PM | MarshMan | There is also this guy: https://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=206
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| 9:18:24 PM | RobbieF | Woh
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| 9:18:29 PM | RobbieF | they're doing some exciting things to be sure!
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| 9:19:23 PM | MarshMan | Amazing stuff
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| 9:19:53 PM | RobbieF | I'm so eager to put the NanoPi M4 up against the Pine64 Rock64 next week!
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| 9:20:11 PM | MarshMan | I suppose you saw the Odroid H2 is out at $111
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| 9:20:14 PM | RobbieF | yep
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| 9:20:16 PM | RobbieF | sure did
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| 9:20:21 PM | MarshMan | RAM is extra tho
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| 9:20:23 PM | RobbieF | It's on my wish list 😛
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| 9:20:24 PM | RobbieF | yep
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| 9:20:34 PM | RobbieF | If only I knew of a sponsor who made RAM..........
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| 9:20:35 PM | RobbieF | 😛
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| 9:21:00 PM | MarshMan | Hmmmmmm
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| 9:21:41 PM | MarshMan | lol
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| 9:21:45 PM | RobbieF | hehe
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| 9:22:44 PM | MarshMan | Now that I see the Giggle values my wish list may contain a Pine cluster
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| 9:23:19 PM | bp9 | When SBCs start getting really capable, when do you switch to a general purpose computer?
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| 9:23:37 PM | MarshMan | These are more fun
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| 9:24:39 PM | bp9 | I feel like the line between SBC and general purpose computer is starting to blur quite a bit,especially performance wise
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| 9:24:53 PM | bp9 | Although the SBC has a lot more IO options
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