| 6:58:25 PM | Solbu | No echo.
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| 6:58:51 PM | Garbee | Sasha is just getting intimate with the corner.
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| 6:59:03 PM | MarshMan | How are you liking that side @Jeff Weston ?
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| 7:00:22 PM | Garbee | It seems more rightish here.
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| 7:01:00 PM | Solbu | Jeff: What? You're not going to write a strongly worded letter? :-)
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| 7:01:00 PM | Garbee | Or, do we have a proper view of reality?
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| 7:01:04 PM | TheFu_ | Checklist checked?
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| 7:01:08 PM | bp9 | @SashaR I was having a good chat with @lukasz about Pineboard and he (or she) retired for the evening. 😃
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| 7:01:42 PM | SashaR | ahhh... that makes sense!!
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| 7:01:45 PM | Garbee | Your cheque is $40 USD for that meal.
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| 7:02:01 PM | Garbee | Minimum tip percentage: 120%
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| 7:02:13 PM | Skywriter64 | Hey guys are you the same timeas me (701pm)nom
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| 7:02:42 PM | bp9 | We know how this night will end LOL
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| 7:02:50 PM | Garbee | Above average intelligence compared to what? A wrench?
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| 7:03:16 PM | Garbee | No Sasha. Water + Hand.
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| 7:03:20 PM | bp9 | Not seeing the blinking light on the ATOMOS...
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| 7:03:21 PM | Garbee | That was pretty much it.
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| 7:03:22 PM | MarshMan | Convo is sinking fast!
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| 7:03:33 PM | TheFu_ | Muslims do that still.
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| 7:04:48 PM | Garbee | But Sasha cares to actually hear how you're doing Jeff.
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| 7:04:54 PM | Garbee | She doesn't care about the rest of us plebs.
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| 7:05:02 PM | Garbee | My chicken was delicious.
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| 7:05:04 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:16 PM | MarshMan | ❤
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| 7:05:17 PM | RobbieF | Wonderful!
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| 7:05:19 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:20 PM | MarshMan | ❤
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| 7:05:21 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:22 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:23 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:24 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:25 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:26 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:27 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:28 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:29 PM | MarshMan | ❤ 🥓
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| 7:05:30 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:31 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:42 PM | TheFu_ | Sorry.
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| 7:05:55 PM | MarshMan | Stop that @RobbieF
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| 7:06:00 PM | BobK54 | oops
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| 7:06:18 PM | Garbee | Happy Birthday is no longer copyrighted... You'll probably still get demonetized for doing it on YouTube.
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| 7:07:09 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF Cardigan, cardigan, yeah!
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| 7:07:13 PM | MarshMan | Uh oh
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| 7:07:16 PM | Garbee | Starting off the night with a lie...
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| 7:07:21 PM | Garbee | It's not, a judge threw it out.
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| 7:07:26 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF press record
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| 7:07:32 PM | Garbee | Because the original copyright paper couldn't be properly traced by a legal standard.
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| 7:08:04 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF I feel so much better now thanks
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| 7:08:10 PM | RobbieF | 😃
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| 7:08:38 PM | TomTheCat | Topic tonight?
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| 7:09:11 PM | Garbee | The day of the sales means nothing anymore.
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| 7:09:43 PM | MarshMan | They commercialized Black Friday and Cyber Monday?
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| 7:10:13 PM | TheFu_ | Deliveries have all missed the "2 day" promise under prime for me.
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| 7:10:25 PM | MarshMan | Me too
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| 7:10:26 PM | Garbee | so... Sanded Lemon Drops. Awesome little treat.
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| 7:11:54 PM | Solbu | I have 5 terminals open on 2 computers, at any one time.
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| 7:12:02 PM | Solbu | total of 10 terminals.
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| 7:12:33 PM | TheFu_ | 8 xterms open to other systems right now.
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| 7:12:34 PM | Garbee | Flashlights. Now in all kinds of forms because you never know when you'll need one.
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| 7:14:03 PM | TheFu_ | My portable USB charger has a soft-touch switch for the flashlight, but it sticks out and is constantly bumped on.
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| 7:14:23 PM | TheFu_ | RTFM.
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| 7:14:48 PM | BobK54 | OK Jeff.....give up your "Man Card"!!!!
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| 7:14:48 PM | Garbee | Even if I read the manual, I'd never remember it.
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| 7:14:50 PM | TheFu_ | Different USB ports have multiple output capabilities.
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| 7:14:54 PM | Solbu | I'm with Jeff. I also read the manuals.
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| 7:15:04 PM | TheFu_ | I'm with Solbu.
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| 7:15:07 PM | bp9 | @Jeff Weston is the one man who reads the destructions LOL
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| 7:15:32 PM | Garbee | hahaah, In my groups. We all read the manuals. But we only learn by playing. Because most games are too complex to just read once or twice and know what to do.
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| 7:15:53 PM | TheFu_ | For complicated toys (like a camera), I reread the manual yearly to learn things I wasn't ready to learn before.
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| 7:16:18 PM | Solbu | I used to read the manuals for my VCR's when I got them. The manuals allways had some info that was not obvious by looking at the remote.
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| 7:16:34 PM | TheFu_ | .... and how to set the clock.
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| 7:16:52 PM | Garbee | So, you went tactical as if it were an invasion.
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| 7:18:18 PM | Solbu | I still have the manual for my 22 year old stereo amplifier.
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| 7:19:09 PM | TheFu_ | Bet I can find the manual for my office stereo, purchased in the 1980s.
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| 7:19:23 PM | bp9 | but there's more! We'll throw in ANOTHER knife!
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| 7:19:50 PM | Garbee | And in your commercial, plug Cat5.
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| 7:20:08 PM | Garbee | Like Robbie's lower third in it, "Cat5 Host for over 40 years"
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| 7:22:10 PM | noeman5 | I used to have Telegram on my phone but the wires kept getting tangled. :}
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| 7:22:26 PM | MarshMan | Doh!
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| 7:22:37 PM | TheFu_ | I never learned morse code
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| 7:23:04 PM | noeman5 | I learned it in Boy Scouts, but forgot it probably a month later.
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| 7:23:07 PM | Garbee | When this started, Robbie had some hair.
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| 7:23:18 PM | MarshMan | @RobbieF and the gerbil cam
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| 7:23:19 PM | TheFu_ | .... on the top of his head.
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| 7:23:36 PM | noeman5 | Garbee, I know, I just watched the very first episode on my Roku earlier this week.
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| 7:23:58 PM | TheFu_ | Any plans for CAT7.tv?
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| 7:24:06 PM | Solbu | In 11 years the show is in 16k. :-)
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| 7:24:07 PM | Garbee | Noeman5, Don't forget to watch episode 11.
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| 7:24:14 PM | POPSiCLE | sup, I haven't been around for a bit, got rid of the irc?
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| 7:24:36 PM | Garbee | @POPSiCLE Nope, IRC still exists. It is even bridged here so all the chat shows up.
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| 7:24:40 PM | TheFu_ | POPSiCLE - IRC is still going strong!
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| 7:24:51 PM | noeman5 | What a difference in production values between the first ep and now.
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| 7:25:06 PM | POPSiCLE | ahh gotcha thx
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| 7:25:21 PM | RobbieF | ❤
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| 7:26:04 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF remind me -- lower giggle score is better, correct?
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| 7:26:14 PM | MarshMan | Correct
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| 7:26:15 PM | Garbee | hahahaha, that face.
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| 7:26:22 PM | bp9 | Cool, thanks!
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| 7:26:30 PM | Garbee | @RobbieF Get Sasha a box to stand on.
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| 7:26:44 PM | Garbee | Equal hight for all hosts.
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| 7:27:18 PM | Garbee | Robbie, don't forget about your mute switch when Jeff rambles on.
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| 7:27:21 PM | Solbu | Who of you where here from the beginning?
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| 7:27:44 PM | MarshMan | One year for me
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| 7:28:03 PM | BobK54 | been here several years. not every night but most
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| 7:28:04 PM | noeman5 | I've been watching since about season 4 or 5, I forget which, but not since the beginning.
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| 7:28:43 PM | Garbee | boom bomm nerm nerm
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| 7:29:02 PM | Garbee | Me doing that will trigger demonetizing.
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| 7:29:30 PM | noeman5 | Robbie, followed your recommendation and got the Power Locus headphones. I use them at the gym and LOVE them.
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| 7:30:12 PM | Garbee | Labels Robbie.
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| 7:30:20 PM | Garbee | Label the boards. Nice big stickers so you know which is which.
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| 7:30:22 PM | MarshMan | But no Pi
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| 7:30:48 PM | Garbee | Now the show starts.
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| 7:30:49 PM | noeman5 | Marshman, but how many of us can say we've been ON the show. That trumps years of watching.
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| 7:30:59 PM | Garbee | Sasha takes the reign on explaining something.
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| 7:31:24 PM | MarshMan | It was fun for sure
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| 7:31:55 PM | bp9 | YAY @SashaR well done!
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| 7:31:59 PM | Garbee | I avoid all of their attempts to coax me into being on the show somehow.
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| 7:32:19 PM | Garbee | We keep saying I'll do something. But I never do.
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| 7:34:54 PM | Garbee | The true value is whatever return you get from the device.
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| 7:35:21 PM | Garbee | There is nothing like a child's smile playing games or making something work from one of these. Regardless of power.
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| 7:35:52 PM | noeman5 | I bought an OrangePi One for my grandson and I to play with, to teach him programming. now looking at a new board. several possibilities.
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| 7:36:47 PM | Garbee | I'm gonna be old when Robbie gets to episode #600...
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| 7:36:53 PM | TheFu_ | Is the giggle program cross-platform? Like for x86?
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| 7:37:07 PM | Garbee | Linux only.
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| 7:37:31 PM | noeman5 | I'm already old Garbee, so no problem. :}
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| 7:37:36 PM | TheFu_ | Android included?
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| 7:38:03 PM | Garbee | No pure Linux installs only is what the scripts are for.
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| 7:38:20 PM | Garbee | That's what comes on most SBCs.
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| 7:39:03 PM | TheFu_ | I'm struggling to compare low-end x86/AMD64 with ARM SBCs.
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| 7:39:10 PM | SashaR | That makes sense, but it was worth asking :):)
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| 7:39:45 PM | Solbu | Garbee: He means, is it for arm devices only, or can it be used on intel cpu devices, such as laptops and desktops.
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| 7:39:50 PM | Garbee | Oh, the scripts should run on ARM chips just fine, as long as Linux runs.
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| 7:40:14 PM | Garbee | It just doesn't work for Android bases even though it is running on Linux. (I mean, it may but good luck.)
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| 7:41:13 PM | TheFu_ | Really more interested in AMD64/x86 SBCs ... like the AMD E-450 or APU2 which are sub-$100 now. The Android question was to compare phones and Nokia Debian devices.
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| 7:41:36 PM | MarshMan | Forgot to give it to him @Jeff Weston
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| 7:42:42 PM | SweSG | No Asus Tinker Board?
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| 7:42:46 PM | SweSG | I have one!
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| 7:43:01 PM | noeman5 | Thank you Sascha
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| 7:43:11 PM | MarshMan | I ran the Giggle on the Asus
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| 7:43:28 PM | SashaR | :):)
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| 7:43:34 PM | MarshMan | Quite high on the Giggles
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| 7:43:52 PM | SweSG | https://www.99.se/forum/p/2305354
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| 7:47:00 PM | Garbee | I wonder if Jeff uses a hair product to make it shiny on camera just to tease Robbie doing post work...
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| 7:48:19 PM | Garbee | We need to make a website for this Giggle stuff.
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| 7:51:20 PM | Garbee | No heatsink.
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| 7:51:28 PM | Garbee | It will have a built in teleporter to move the heat away.
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| 7:52:20 PM | noeman5 | Robbie uses powder to cut the shine
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| 7:52:51 PM | Garbee | I truly just like pestering Robbie.
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| 7:52:54 PM | Garbee | It's fun.
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| 7:53:26 PM | noeman5 | Put some wiggle in your giggle
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| 7:54:46 PM | Garbee | Your Ethernet Port is showing!
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| 7:55:42 PM | noeman5 | I feel like such a geek right now. Typing on Discord on my laptop while watching the show on my desktop and listening to music on my Kindle.
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| 7:56:29 PM | Garbee | At least it isn't stage fright.
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| 7:57:06 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF so professional LOL
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| 7:57:27 PM | MarshMan | @noeman5 One night I watched the show on one phone and Discord on my other phone
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| 7:58:00 PM | MarshMan | While riding on the bus
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| 7:58:41 PM | TheFu_ | or just put the phone into a $10 faraday cage.
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| 7:59:31 PM | TheFu_ | An ABC reporter in Australia posted 30 days of his GPS coordinates for his followers to figure out his life from.
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| 7:59:51 PM | TheFu_ | They figured out some amazing things that he never expected.
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| 8:00:19 PM | MarshMan | @jeff is percolating
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| 8:00:26 PM | noeman5 | TheFu, putting the phone in a Faraday cage will make it drain your battery as it constantly searches for signal.
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| 8:01:21 PM | TheFu_ | Privacy or having to use a charger ...
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| 8:01:25 PM | TheFu_ | https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-16/metadata-retention-privacy-phone-will-ockenden/6694152 is the story
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| 8:02:12 PM | TheFu_ | It isn't just google with access to the data. Data wants to be leaked. There are API failures which get abused.
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| 8:02:17 PM | Garbee | Most companies purposefully obscure why they need the access and especially for what they use the data.
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| 8:02:26 PM | Garbee | I think that is the root problem that needs solving in this context.
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| 8:02:40 PM | Garbee | It's the "dark UX patterns".
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| 8:02:55 PM | TheFu_ | I'd like the data to be forgotten daily, automatically.
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| 8:03:34 PM | Garbee | I installed a simple barcode scanner and it immediately upon installing wanted to touch my contact list.
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| 8:03:45 PM | Garbee | Thankfully, I am running Lineage OS now so it stopped that proactively.
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| 8:04:04 PM | Garbee | But it is scary that I saw that happen. Why does a barcode scanner need contact access?
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| 8:05:42 PM | noeman5 | That's what bugs me about most apps. They want access to almost EVERYTHING, including things that has nothing to do with the app.
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| 8:06:35 PM | TheFu_ | Health care data is very important in places where it feeds into and from your normal credit reports.
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| 8:06:46 PM | noeman5 | That's why I refuse to use FaceBook Messenger. Too many unnecessary permissions required.
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| 8:06:55 PM | TheFu_ | That changes the interest rates you are offered for all sorts of thing.
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| 8:07:18 PM | Garbee | I run an application on my computer that blocks new software from getting internet access until I approve it.
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| 8:07:22 PM | Garbee | It's great.
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| 8:07:58 PM | Garbee | After the show Jeff.
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| 8:08:51 PM | bp9 | I'm with @Jeff Weston on this. I don't use Bookface or any genetic services because of those privacy concerns.
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| 8:09:08 PM | Garbee | The genetic stuff is crazy.
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| 8:09:27 PM | Garbee | I honestly don't understand how things like 23andMe are even a business.
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| 8:09:39 PM | TheFu_ | If you've ever had a personal stocker, privacy becomes a major life choice.
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| 8:09:58 PM | TheFu_ | and it is very hard.
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| 8:10:13 PM | bp9 | @Garbee they are into selling data just like google
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| 8:10:35 PM | Garbee | bp9, I get that. I don't get why people pay them money and give them their DNA.
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| 8:10:42 PM | Garbee | Equifax's leak.
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| 8:10:57 PM | Garbee | Data privacy and security is an issue far beyond Silicon Valley.
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| 8:11:01 PM | bp9 | Nor do I... unless they just don't understand the privacy implications
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| 8:11:06 PM | Garbee | And we need proper regulation that works across the board.
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| 8:11:27 PM | Garbee | We can't target Silicon Valley companies. It needs to oversee everyone who handles personally identifiable information.
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| 8:11:37 PM | bp9 | I'm paranoid so I don't give out personal data unless I really have to.... and even then I squawk.
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| 8:11:58 PM | bp9 | But sometimes (and you mentioned equifax) there is no choice.
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| 8:12:14 PM | TheFu_ | Universities are pushing out Data Scientists ... so they can figure out how to monetize all that data.
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| 8:12:30 PM | Garbee | I now run through ProtonVPN for internet access. Except for the like 4% of the time where it is broken for some reason (only on cell network at times.)
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| 8:12:57 PM | Garbee | It isn't a big help. But it does help to a minor extent.
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| 8:13:11 PM | TheFu_ | Once you have a stalker, things change.
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| 8:14:10 PM | bp9 | @Jeff Weston I'm with you on this..
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| 8:14:32 PM | noeman5 | buttphone?
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| 8:15:37 PM | TheFu_ | Extra fun to connect to speakers in a hotel.
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| 8:16:17 PM | TheFu_ | at 4am
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| 8:17:24 PM | bp9 | NASA Heck YEAH!
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| 8:17:33 PM | TheFu_ | Oh BABY!
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| 8:18:03 PM | TheFu_ | Anyone else see the "Superbowl" high-5 after the landing in the 2nd row?
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| 8:18:16 PM | TheFu_ | Sasha - NAILED it!
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| 8:18:44 PM | noeman5 | Imagine waiting for a message from Insight, only to find out it's updating it's Windows software.😂
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| 8:18:54 PM | TheFu_ | No Windows on Mars.
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| 8:19:15 PM | bp9 | @noeman5 D'Oh!
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| 8:19:55 PM | TheFu_ | It runs VxWorks.
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| 8:21:01 PM | noeman5 | Imagine a BSOD from the Red Planet
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| 8:21:04 PM | TheFu_ | Robbie ... there are 2 microSats for that. Plus it is 8 minutes for radio to go from Mars to Earth.
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| 8:23:22 PM | TheFu_ | Didn't BC bounce up 15% today?
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| 8:24:37 PM | Garbee | So, about that genetic stuff... What?
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| 8:24:38 PM | MarshMan | It did climb
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| 8:25:13 PM | bp9 | Excellent show @RobbieF @SashaR @Jeff Weston WELL DONE
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| 8:25:16 PM | MarshMan | BC was down to $3775
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| 8:25:58 PM | SashaR | Thank you so very much 😃
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| 8:26:13 PM | bp9 | You're welcome very much 😃
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| 8:26:20 PM | Garbee | I think they still have the intro to do.
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| 8:27:40 PM | Garbee | The recalls aren't the waste problem. The big food waste is the US company absurdity.
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| 8:27:49 PM | TheFu_ | But the tech isn't in the fields, yet.
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| 8:28:07 PM | Garbee | Grocery stores don't donate food to food banks because it is a cost to them to get it there.
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| 8:28:23 PM | Garbee | So they throw the excess from the shelves into the dumpster.
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| 8:28:33 PM | Garbee | And order so much more than necessary just to "never run out".
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| 8:28:50 PM | TheFu_ | Garbee - some grocery stores DO donate to homeless shelters multiple times each week.
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| 8:28:59 PM | Garbee | Very very few.
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| 8:29:13 PM | MarshMan | G'night all!
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| 8:29:15 PM | TheFu_ | Entire chains do.
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| 8:29:15 PM | Garbee | Like compared to how many there are, it's hardly a dent in the waste.
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| 8:29:38 PM | SashaR | Heading home... but I'l check in before bedtime 😃
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| 8:29:46 PM | Garbee | Bye Sasha. have a good night.
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| 8:30:01 PM | TheFu_ | Kroger donates 3 million meals a week, for example.
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| 8:30:15 PM | Garbee | hold up.
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| 8:30:32 PM | oosgearoo | Night folks 01:30 here enjoyed the show
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| 8:30:40 PM | Garbee | Is that from their overstock that would otherwise be thrown away with no return? Or is that from the people buying the stuff in the checkout line to send to the food bank?
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| 8:31:18 PM | TheFu_ | https://www.kroger.com/topic/community
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| 8:31:48 PM | noeman5 | Another reason for lack of donations is liability. Yet another thing the lawsuit mentality has screwed things up for.
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| 8:33:19 PM | Garbee | thefu, reading over the info available here it isn't meaningful until the future. Which is good since the first deadline they set is very close (2020.) But, it doesn't show how they differentiate what they are donating.
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| 8:33:34 PM | Garbee | So, a skeptic can only assume, the majority of that is the paid for donations by customers.
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| 8:35:38 PM | TheFu_ | Long ago, I worked as a stocker in a grocery chain. Baked goods were donated daily to the local food shelter.
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| 8:35:57 PM | TheFu_ | Liability may have changed it. IDK.
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| 8:36:12 PM | Garbee | Liability has not changed since like 1890.
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| 8:36:18 PM | Garbee | And it is, there is no liability.
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| 8:36:53 PM | Garbee | Places often claim they don't donate because of lawsuit fears. However, written law prevents lawsuits of food donations made in good faith.
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| 8:37:16 PM | TheFu_ | I've volunteered at many food banks over the years. Much of the canned goods would be dented, but otherwise fine.
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| 8:37:38 PM | TheFu_ | You are referencing all liability laws in every jurisdiction?
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| 8:37:40 PM | bp9 | I still don't know how the blockchain is supposed to fix this. What stops someone from moving the tag on one item of produce to another, thereby invalidating that tag (and the item of produce that it was attached to)??
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| 8:37:44 PM | Garbee | Yah the "It's dented so I don't want to buy it" mentality is insane.
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| 8:38:00 PM | Garbee | In the United States the federal law prevents lawsuits in that context.
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| 8:38:21 PM | Garbee | It is to protect donators from suits that are difficult to prove in order to encourage them to donate excess.
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| 8:38:39 PM | RobbieF | Hope you all had fun!!
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| 8:38:43 PM | TheFu_ | Well ... dented items might break an internal coating and it has been proven to reduce shelf life.
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| 8:39:03 PM | bp9 | Sure did, @RobbieF !!
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| 8:39:08 PM | TheFu_ | If you rotate your canned goods, a dented tin won't matter.
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| 8:39:13 PM | TheFu_ | Always fun.
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| 8:39:17 PM | Garbee | Shelf life of things with expiration dates 6 years in the future.... yea, could care less.
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| 8:39:26 PM | Garbee | Unless it is an emergency stash.
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| 8:39:31 PM | bp9 | TO the point where I am considering a Pinebook just to see if it will do what I hope it can.
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| 8:39:35 PM | TheFu_ | Preppers care about shelf life.
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| 8:39:37 PM | Garbee | But then, you should be rotating that stuff out every 2-3 years.
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| 8:40:05 PM | TheFu_ | Rotating? Don't you mean eating?
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| 8:40:28 PM | Garbee | I meant rotate as take the stash and replace it to consume what was in the stash.
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| 8:40:44 PM | TheFu_ | I've had some canned items not be nearly as good with just a few months in the pantry. Canned tuna for example.
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| 8:40:50 PM | Garbee | So you aren't stuck in an emergency with stuff that "expired" 4 years before.
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| 8:40:57 PM | TheFu_ | Canned salmon too.
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| 8:41:07 PM | Garbee | Yea, I'm not saying every canned thing lasts for years.
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| 8:41:09 PM | TheFu_ | The meat isn't a firm.
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| 8:41:21 PM | TheFu_ | s/a/as/
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| 8:41:40 PM | TheFu_ | Didn't someone want to talk DNA testing?
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| 9:11:19 PM | rob | hi guys
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