| 6:58:17 PM | TheFu | We are being watched.
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| 6:59:11 PM | Zigon | Nice π
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| 7:00:59 PM | Garbee | Yes, I am watching.
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| 7:01:59 PM | Ronnicat | yes we are watched lol
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| 7:02:23 PM | MarshMan | All three Moderators are watching.
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| 7:03:24 PM | Solbu | And the doscord chat is frozen, again.
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| 7:03:27 PM | Solbu | *discord
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| 7:03:46 PM | Garbee | Hi Sasha!
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| 7:03:57 PM | Garbee | Yes it is frozen
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| 7:04:01 PM | ABQTKY | Testing, one, two, two and a half...two and three quarters? Ooh, there's Sasha!
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| 7:04:18 PM | TheFu | kicked out.
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| 7:04:23 PM | Ronnicat | ok Roku disappeared
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| 7:04:49 PM | MarshMan | Hey ABQTKY!
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| 7:04:52 PM | Ronnicat | well not Roku but Cat5
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| 7:05:11 PM | TheFu | Solbu, "polar vortex"
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| 7:05:36 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan, how's Ulster Cty right now??
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| 7:05:38 PM | Solbu | Jeff: Do the Hal9000 fix. Unscrew the memory modules, and reinsert. That should fix RobbieF. :-)
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| 7:06:02 PM | MarshMan | Chilly and snowy ABQTKY.
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| 7:06:05 PM | Ronnicat | Going on website broken Roku channel
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| 7:06:20 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream is also down.
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| 7:06:21 PM | Ronnicat | oh snap that is broken too
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| 7:06:46 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan - chilly is okay. As long as 'chilly' isn't 30 or 40 below.
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| 7:06:47 PM | Solbu | Perhaps the light in the fiber cable froze. ;-)
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| 7:06:53 PM | SashaR | Robbie is on it π
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| 7:07:12 PM | Ronnicat | ok we know just
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| 7:07:37 PM | Ronnicat | letting him know and enjoying everyone
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| 7:07:45 PM | MarshMan | @SashaR It's the wind chilly that will get us
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| 7:08:05 PM | SashaR | It's so cold .... arg
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| 7:08:23 PM | ABQTKY | SashaR - so how cold is it????
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| 7:08:29 PM | MarshMan | There is no sense in complaining that it's cold in the wintertime
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| 7:08:31 PM | TheFu | Brrrrr ... even way down here in GA.
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| 7:08:37 PM | SashaR | ohhh wait... I have a joke
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| 7:08:51 PM | TheFu | How cold is it, Sasha?
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| 7:08:52 PM | MarshMan | Here it comes
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| 7:08:55 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream is back
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| 7:08:57 PM | ABQTKY | It's that darned Global Warming!
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| 7:09:11 PM | Ronnicat | what is it @SashaR SashaR
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| 7:09:55 PM | MarshMan | all good now @SashaR
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| 7:10:11 PM | MarshMan | @RobbieF is soldering!!!!!
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| 7:10:47 PM | Ronnicat | lmbo
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| 7:10:49 PM | ABQTKY | Electrons are so much slower in bitter cold weather, RobbieF is trying to compansate.
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| 7:10:55 PM | Dennis_Kelley | good one @SashaR
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| 7:10:57 PM | MarshMan | You have that effect on people @Jeff Weston
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| 7:11:10 PM | TheFu | Isn't that camera behind you recording?
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| 7:11:16 PM | TheFu | --Jeff?
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| 7:11:26 PM | TheFu | Stream dropped again.
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| 7:11:54 PM | Zigon | its up now
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| 7:12:07 PM | Solbu | Is it just be or did the video stutter a little?
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| 7:12:12 PM | Solbu | *just me
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| 7:12:16 PM | Ronnicat | This is going to be some show tonight i can feel it
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| 7:12:26 PM | TheFu | 20 sec stutters?
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| 7:12:27 PM | ABQTKY | Jeff Weston, you could turn that little blue guy in front of you on. You could if you wanted to.
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| 7:13:05 PM | Ronnicat | yes we see you
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| 7:13:27 PM | ABQTKY | No, the blue guy!!
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| 7:13:35 PM | ABQTKY | The BLUE one.
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| 7:13:35 PM | MarshMan | You need help @Jeff Weston
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| 7:14:35 PM | TheFu | Jeff - throwing the gang signs.
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| 7:14:54 PM | Solbu | Video is stable now. Been stable for the last 2 minutes.
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| 7:14:54 PM | MarshMan | Negative on echo
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| 7:15:30 PM | Ronnicat | No echoes here
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| 7:15:50 PM | Dennis_Kelley | working
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| 7:16:06 PM | Dennis_Kelley | on live.cat5.tv
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| 7:16:15 PM | Garbee | Pinebook Pro!
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| 7:16:34 PM | Garbee | Oops.
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| 7:17:08 PM | TheFu | But will he be able to play the violin?
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| 7:18:12 PM | MarshMan | With or without ear wax @Jeff Weston ?
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| 7:19:34 PM | SashaR | eeeewwwwwww
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| 7:20:17 PM | Ronnicat | I want the pillow speakers π¦
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| 7:20:35 PM | TheFu | I love books on tape (digital downloads) from the library.
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| 7:20:54 PM | Ronnicat | same here
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| 7:21:27 PM | TheFu | Been listening to "The Expanse" the last few weeks. On book 6 now.
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| 7:22:03 PM | Garbee | oooh. I want to take a Pineboard SoC and make a custom digital photo frame.
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| 7:22:41 PM | TheFu | Kodi 18 includes RetroPi, doesn't it?
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| 7:28:32 PM | RobbieF | β€
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| 7:30:17 PM | Garbee | yes kill mics.
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| 7:31:52 PM | Garbee | Pinephone interested me more with the announcement.
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| 7:32:28 PM | Garbee | OS support on it will be very interesting.
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| 7:32:55 PM | RobbieF | PinePhone excites me for the privacy aspect! I'll ask Lukasz about that.
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| 7:33:47 PM | SashaR | I'll be getting one of these for sure
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| 7:34:11 PM | Garbee | That's a major differentiator.
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| 7:34:25 PM | Dennis_Kelley | a hacker or a software update
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| 7:34:38 PM | Solbu | Is this live, or was the inverview prerecorded?
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| 7:34:53 PM | Dennis_Kelley | should be live
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| 7:38:12 PM | RobbieF | If you're experiencing streaming problems please go to #streaming-problems
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| 7:38:37 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: take it that's a discord-only room?
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| 7:38:40 PM | Solbu | *I take it
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| 7:38:52 PM | RobbieF | Yes: Discord FTW.
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| 7:39:03 PM | MarshMan | Pine64 is working with KDE Neon and Manjaro to have images ready at launch of Pro
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| 7:39:29 PM | MarshMan | Also working on Armbian, DietPi ans Q4OS
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| 7:39:45 PM | RobbieF | Pinebook Pro: ALUMINUM BODY for just $200!
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| 7:40:23 PM | MarshMan | There will be a waiting list
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| 7:40:24 PM | SashaR | Guess who's geting one of these asap? π
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| 7:40:31 PM | MarshMan | It's gonna be huge!
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| 7:41:01 PM | RobbieF | How you know my Christmas list?
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| 7:41:02 PM | Garbee | Stocking stuffer
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| 7:41:36 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: We asked Googke to spy on you. ;-)
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| 7:41:41 PM | Solbu | *google
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| 7:41:46 PM | Garbee | I have big feet Jeff.
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| 7:41:54 PM | RobbieF | Alexa: Add Pinebook Pro to my Christmas List.
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| 7:41:55 PM | Garbee | Y'know what they say about those...
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| 7:42:02 PM | MarshMan | Hobbit sized feet
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| 7:42:03 PM | TheFu | Any info on screen size and resolution?
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| 7:42:04 PM | SashaR | big shoes?
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| 7:42:16 PM | RobbieF | 1080p IPS.
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| 7:42:20 PM | RobbieF | 14"
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| 7:42:28 PM | TheFu | SWEET!
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| 7:42:41 PM | SashaR | Which means Ii'll need a bigger stocking this Christmas π
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| 7:42:45 PM | Garbee | Good Netflix system.
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| 7:43:02 PM | Garbee | For all that time on the loo. π
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| 7:43:06 PM | Solbu | SashaR: Or a bigger salary. ;-)
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| 7:43:11 PM | MarshMan | Pinebook Pro System Specifications 14β³ 1080p IPS LCD panel 64GB of eMMC storage Black magnesium alloy body MicroSD card slot Digital video output via USB-C Audio aux out / UART USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 ports 802.11ac WiFi Bluetooth 4.2 4GB of LPDDR4 RAM Charging via barrel port or USB-C Rockchip RK3399 Hexacore SOC 2mpx front-facing camera Microphone Speakers Slim and slick design with minimal branding PCIe x4 that can take a m.2
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| 7:43:46 PM | Garbee | Also, USB-C charging available. HUGE win there.
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| 7:43:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | sweet
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| 7:44:23 PM | Garbee | 4.2 is perfectly fine.
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| 7:44:27 PM | SashaR | This is going to be perfect for so many people in so many ways
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| 7:44:40 PM | lukasz | @Michael - DJ Wheels - KD4MAA funny you mention that - we're just looking into updating the BT to 5.0
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| 7:44:45 PM | Ronnicat | 4.2 is the average today
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| 7:44:56 PM | RobbieF | https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-andy-dwyer-chris-pratt-jaw-drop-shocked-gif-4421172
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| 7:45:07 PM | lukasz | Will see if we can get a good quote from a vendor we're on good terms with
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| 7:45:40 PM | MarshMan | https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=7093 to see it all
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| 7:45:44 PM | Dennis_Kelley | makes my motioneysOS that i am working on easier
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| 7:46:10 PM | TheFu | Beer delivery?
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| 7:46:28 PM | MarshMan | Working on it
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| 7:46:29 PM | Garbee | I don't see 5 vs 4.2 as a dealbreaker of any kind. Only the extended range would be useful on average with a laptop scenario. But, it would be fairly odd to really need that extra range in most use cases.
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| 7:46:54 PM | Garbee | Maybe if 5.0 does all that and consumes less power, then the power savings is super beneficial.
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| 7:47:07 PM | lukasz | @Garbee if the difference will be ~$1-3 then we'll update it
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| 7:47:41 PM | RobbieF | * YES - IMX179... this sensor is 8.08 MPix.
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| 7:47:50 PM | MarshMan | Chromebook killer??
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| 7:48:36 PM | lukasz | Other things we're talking about are illuminated keyboard and a perhaps an illuminated logo in teh back. Those illuminated keyboards are very expensive however, so unlikely - but we'll try
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| 7:49:13 PM | MarshMan | I usually don't work in the dark @lukasz
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| 7:49:23 PM | lukasz | π
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| 7:49:28 PM | Garbee | I'd pay extra for backlit keyboard.
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| 7:49:35 PM | Garbee | I adore my Macbook Pro for having that.
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| 7:49:56 PM | TheFu | Echo, echo.
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| 7:49:57 PM | Dennis_Kelley | wow!
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| 7:49:58 PM | Garbee | But, I know splitting production lines also costs
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| 7:50:11 PM | lukasz | @Garbee Fully understand. But you'd be surprised that they start at ~$16 in bulk order :/
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| 7:51:09 PM | ABQTKY | lukasz - Ouch! But all this stuff sounds incredible!! Thanks!!
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| 7:51:23 PM | lukasz | Will try with other vendors of course π
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| 7:51:34 PM | Garbee | @lukasz That is surprising. It makes me question why more mainstream laptop vendors don't provide it. But for ya'll, I completely understand based on the price point you're trying to hit it is a barrier. Splitting production lines also costs so it may not be worth optioning if only 5-10% of us are willing to pay $50 on top for one.
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| 7:52:41 PM | Garbee | 5-10% is also being generous on the estimate of units it would see in.
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| 7:52:49 PM | Dennis_Kelley | after the third try
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| 7:52:52 PM | MarshMan | Nailed or screwed
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| 7:53:00 PM | Ronnicat | awesome
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| 7:53:26 PM | Garbee | Um. Did that banner just say we are "Family Friendly"?
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| 7:54:24 PM | Ronnicat | can't wait for the phone
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| 7:54:30 PM | noeman5 | What was the giggle score for the Rock Pro 64?
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| 7:55:00 PM | Garbee | gasps
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| 7:55:10 PM | Garbee | I can get my nephew a Pinebook Pro as his first computer
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| 7:55:40 PM | Garbee | $200, if he destroys it in a few months. So what? I mean, he won't get another one for a while. But it's nothing to cry over.
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| 7:55:55 PM | MarshMan | RockPro64 Giggle score
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| 7:56:01 PM | Garbee | And that introduces him to a computer with a keyboard and mouse input.
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| 7:56:12 PM | MarshMan | RockPro64 Δ’81.00
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| 7:56:39 PM | noeman5 | Thanks MarshMan
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| 7:56:43 PM | Ronnicat | Sounds like a winner for a 1st pc
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| 7:57:01 PM | TheFu | Jeff - if you didn't run Windows, you could get a fast laptop for $240-ish.
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| 7:57:14 PM | lukasz | Garbee indeed. And that is not a given these days. There are many kids in their early teens who have very limited exposure to full computer desktops ...
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| 8:00:16 PM | MarshMan | Faster than my work computer too
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| 8:01:19 PM | Solbu | That sound slike a nice kodi system.
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| 8:01:48 PM | noeman5 | I'ce been impressed by the power and speed of current SBC's. Amazing for such a small package.
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| 8:02:15 PM | noeman5 | I've
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| 8:02:58 PM | lukasz | @RobbieF you'd need Armbian media patch to run youtube with hw acceleration : )https://forum.armbian.com/topic/9272-development-rk3399-media-script/
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| 8:03:28 PM | lukasz | Indeed π
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| 8:04:02 PM | MarshMan | Thanks @lukasz I run Armbian on one of my RockPros
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| 8:04:32 PM | lukasz | ^try the patch and offer the Armbian guys some feedback
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| 8:05:21 PM | TheFu | Is that Gnome3?
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| 8:05:36 PM | lukasz | No worries π
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| 8:05:44 PM | Garbee | Looks like MATE
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| 8:05:50 PM | lukasz | Armbian ? XFCE
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| 8:06:03 PM | Garbee | ah, XFCE.
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| 8:06:35 PM | TheFu | I'm clueless about DEs. Don't use them myself.
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| 8:06:39 PM | Garbee | I was guessing based on the top menubar I saw. I guess MATE, XFCE, and LXDE all fit the bill within reason.
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| 8:06:40 PM | lukasz | As for retro-gaming: https://github.com/mrfixit2001/recalbox_rockpro64/releases
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| 8:07:07 PM | lukasz | @Garbee they theme it a bit
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| 8:07:23 PM | lukasz | Anyways, good night friends - past 1AM in the morning π
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| 8:07:28 PM | TheFu | The intent for the Gnome3 question was to get a feel for GPU responsiveness.
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| 8:07:31 PM | Garbee | Goodnight @lukasz
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| 8:07:34 PM | Garbee | Thanks for joining us.
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| 8:07:41 PM | lukasz | Thanks all π
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| 8:07:59 PM | Ronnicat | Good night @lukasz
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| 8:08:22 PM | lukasz | Loved it - talk soon π
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| 8:09:55 PM | Garbee | So... I can't put a computer in my computer?
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| 8:10:58 PM | noeman5 | My windows 10 box could use the extra help.π
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| 8:11:14 PM | Ronnicat | @Garbee I wish we could.
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| 8:11:41 PM | Solbu | Garbee: That could confuse the virtual server marked. ;-)
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| 8:11:58 PM | Garbee | so-dimm sounds like the chips aren't that bright.
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| 8:13:09 PM | Garbee | HEY! I have no need for more than 64k of memory.
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| 8:13:19 PM | Garbee | Take that remark back Robbie.
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| 8:13:30 PM | noeman5 | But Sod-dimm sounds like Sod it! I thought Sascha was Canadian, not British.π
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| 8:15:32 PM | Solbu | Hehe
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| 8:16:27 PM | noeman5 | Welcome Michael
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| 8:16:34 PM | Ronnicat | hi Michaelhele
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| 8:17:04 PM | ABQTKY | Greetings and salutations, Michaelhele!
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| 8:18:33 PM | Ronnicat | Facebook hmm ;Yahoo integrated years ago . Where are they really now?
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| 8:18:51 PM | TheFu | WhatsApp is used by the "kids" because it communicates world-wide for free.
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| 8:19:03 PM | Ronnicat | Yes they are going to have end to end encryption that is the plan
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| 8:19:38 PM | Solbu | SashaR; RobbieF: Jeff's mike have failed a few seconds 2 times during the last 10 minutes.
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| 8:20:03 PM | Solbu | Perhaps he's stepping on a mute pedal.
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| 8:20:46 PM | TheFu | Did everyone see that FB-alpha channel has been removed by Apple from the App-Store - over privacy issues.
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| 8:21:37 PM | TheFu | Timeliness?
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| 8:22:28 PM | TheFu | When will Google ban the app?
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| 8:22:37 PM | Ronnicat | I see FB having problems in the future with Australia
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| 8:24:53 PM | TheFu | FB wants to know what everyone uses on their phones, so they can buy/clone those apps and gather even more personal data.
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| 8:25:51 PM | TheFu | Did everyone see "The Circle"?
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| 8:26:26 PM | ABQTKY | Scary movie!
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| 8:26:29 PM | TheFu | 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com facebook.com
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| 8:26:59 PM | TheFu | Add that to your /etc/hosts as a start.
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| 8:27:26 PM | TheFu | But there are about 200 other domains to be blocked just for FB.
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| 8:27:42 PM | michaelhele | Facebook justification - we were bad long before we were really bad Apple
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| 8:29:51 PM | Ronnicat | Facebook is like The plant on Little Shop of Horror; Feed me "Seymore feed me". That is how they are with data.
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| 8:30:06 PM | TheFu | 20 yr olds don't use facebook, except to deal with their parents.
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| 8:30:34 PM | Ronnicat | you mean grandparents lol
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| 8:31:24 PM | TheFu | So ... parents for 20-somethings.
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| 8:32:44 PM | TheFu | All facial recognition is racially based. It has to be.
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| 8:32:47 PM | Solbu | For a fewe seconds I was reading Β«their patentsΒ» :-)
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| 8:33:18 PM | Ronnicat | both TheFu I have seen some who had grandchildren at 36 that were 7. So by the time they are 50 I can see that. Some people start early
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| 8:34:22 PM | TheFu | Fingerprints are not unique after it is simplified to 100 points for a computer.
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| 8:35:22 PM | TheFu | Sasha, will AI replace Chiropractic doctors?
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| 8:36:11 PM | Ronnicat | Can AI really distinguish between Quadruplets or Octuplets ? I wonder how AI will react?
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| 8:36:39 PM | michaelhele | the Ai in my glasses picked out Sasha as a super supermodel
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| 8:37:29 PM | TheFu | There are over 16 different sexes, I hear.
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| 8:37:47 PM | Ronnicat | wow
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| 8:38:31 PM | Ronnicat | oh no out of coffee π¦
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| 8:38:58 PM | TheFu | Solbu, got a mention!
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| 8:39:02 PM | TheFu | Nice.
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| 8:39:06 PM | Solbu | :-)
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| 8:39:48 PM | Ronnicat | Bye
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| 8:39:51 PM | SashaR | You are all darn awesome π
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| 8:40:16 PM | Ronnicat | So are you @SashaR
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| 8:40:21 PM | TheFu | +1
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| 8:40:43 PM | MarshMan | you did not do the Tech Podcast, Kingston or IAIB bits
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| 8:41:48 PM | Dennis_Kelley | see ya all later
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| 8:41:58 PM | TheFu | Bye DK!
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| 8:42:23 PM | Ronnicat | Until Next Time
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| 8:42:28 PM | Dennis_Kelley | see ya @Jeff Weston
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| 8:43:49 PM | MarshMan | Later π π π
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| 8:44:39 PM | Solbu | Next week we might hear about the cat5's reaction to the raid saga.
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| 8:44:47 PM | Solbu | I'm exited. :-)
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| 8:45:15 PM | Solbu | Too bad Jeff woun't be there, as I can picture his reation to the story in my head. :-)
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| 8:58:49 PM | RobbieF | Hope you all had fun tonight!!
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| 8:59:35 PM | MarshMan | Everybody Wang-Chung tonight
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| 9:00:25 PM | MarshMan | Seemed a bit like deja vu
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| 9:00:45 PM | RobbieF | Only for some π
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