| 6:58:05 PM | RobbieF | start at 5 seconds.
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| 6:59:18 PM | Garbee | I requested a credit card today. Time to see if thou paycheck is worthy.
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| 6:59:46 PM | Garbee | 🍿 does not go good with 🍕
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| 7:00:12 PM | Skywriter64 | Hi everyone from Brooklyn,NY
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| 7:00:30 PM | Garbee | Hello Skywriter.
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| 7:00:45 PM | Garbee | And discord is crashed on stream.
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| 7:00:54 PM | Garbee | uh or, the bot isn't showing.
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| 7:01:38 PM | Garbee | That's odd. Solbu showed up in the chat area, but Skywriter's welcome did not. Both through the bot.
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| 7:01:58 PM | Skywriter64 | it's finally above freezing in NYC
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| 7:02:31 PM | Garbee | That's very odd. Is there a location filter on the chat stream?
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| 7:02:40 PM | Garbee | Wow, the beard Jeff has accumulated.
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| 7:02:54 PM | Garbee | How many grilled cheeses do you have stuff in there.
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| 7:02:56 PM | Garbee | ?
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| 7:02:58 PM | GWG | Hello, Brooklyn, Queens here
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| 7:03:04 PM | ABQTKY | Skywriter64 So now you have six inches of slush everywhere there's a crosswalk. 8-)
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| 7:03:05 PM | Garbee | No, certain messages aren't showing up.
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| 7:03:28 PM | TheFu | 72 degF here today. Spring has sprung, fully. Some trees had flowers last week.
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| 7:03:30 PM | GWG | Does he have a beard comb?
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| 7:03:31 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream is working.
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| 7:04:12 PM | Garbee | Skywriter's intro message failed to show up. Seems to be working fine now. Temp glitch maybe?
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| 7:04:12 PM | TheFu | That's 22degC.
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| 7:04:21 PM | SashaR | We made it back in time to watch :):):)
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| 7:04:32 PM | SashaR | Yepper
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| 7:04:37 PM | Skywriter64 | Hi Queens ,I will be there on Friday or Sat. @microcenter by Queens College
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| 7:04:43 PM | Garbee | Hello Sasha!
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| 7:04:47 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:04:48 PM | SashaR | Hi guys :)
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| 7:04:49 PM | GWG | Now I am going to have If you only have a mustache stuck in my head
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| 7:04:50 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:04:51 PM | Garbee | ❤
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| 7:05:08 PM | TheFu | Anyone else miss the DST switch?
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| 7:05:09 PM | GWG | Skywriter, stop into the kosher supermarket next door. Good bakery
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| 7:05:24 PM | Skywriter64 | yea!
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| 7:05:28 PM | GWG | Why will you be in that Microcenter?
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| 7:05:34 PM | Garbee | I'm playing PS4 btw, so my heckling will have a reduced capacity this evening
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| 7:06:03 PM | SashaR | Sounds great
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| 7:06:04 PM | Garbee | Both sound good.
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| 7:06:10 PM | Garbee | Voice quality, "eh"
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| 7:06:15 PM | Garbee | I've heard better voices.
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| 7:06:19 PM | Skywriter64 | I will checking the parts for a new build
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| 7:06:19 PM | Garbee | Morgan Freeman for instance.
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| 7:06:23 PM | Garbee | And Steven Hawking.
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| 7:06:24 PM | SashaR | Whatcha playing Garbee?
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| 7:06:32 PM | Garbee | Assassins Creed Odyssey
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| 7:06:34 PM | Solbu | TheFu: I have added the time in my calendar using the toronto timezone. So I got notifications an hour earlier today.
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| 7:06:57 PM | TheFu | Thanks Robbie for the GImp tips last week. Tried to use them yesterday. Need much more practice. ;)
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| 7:07:08 PM | SashaR | Dave wants to play that one :)
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| 7:07:35 PM | Solbu | SashaR: Will you be back for episode 600?
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| 7:07:55 PM | SashaR | It's awesome here :):):)
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| 7:08:03 PM | SashaR | Hey !!!!
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| 7:08:16 PM | GWG | I have always wanted to see more of Canada
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| 7:08:20 PM | TheFu | Whistler rocks! Don't party too late!
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| 7:08:30 PM | GWG | Like Toronto, Vancouver, etc
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| 7:09:11 PM | GWG | My brother has 7 and he's taken them to Disney
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| 7:09:41 PM | Solbu | I remember when I installed a new ATI video card. There was commercial videos from Canada on the CDrom with the drivers.
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| 7:09:48 PM | SashaR | I think it would be great to travel and visit y'all!
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| 7:09:52 PM | Solbu | Some 20 years ago.
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| 7:09:55 PM | TheFu | Sasha, been over to Blackcomb for some dbl-black runs?
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| 7:11:02 PM | SashaR | Blue! I stop at blue :) Dave did some black diamond, and loved it - I'm just too new
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| 7:11:06 PM | GWG | SashaR, you are always welcome in NY. I'm sure I and the other locals would come out to say hi
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| 7:11:54 PM | TheFu | Blue is fun! I'm on the bunny runs these days, but in my youth, we'd head off-trail and nearly die every day.
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| 7:12:03 PM | Solbu | RobbieF, Jeff: Which CAD program do robbie use?
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| 7:12:41 PM | SashaR | Thanks GWG :). It would be so much fun :)
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| 7:12:57 PM | TheFu | Jeff - this this true.
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| 7:13:05 PM | GWG | I love excuses to go sightseeing
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| 7:13:13 PM | GWG | We can go to all the sites
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| 7:13:18 PM | GWG | The Tenement Museum
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| 7:13:35 PM | GWG | The former psychiatric hospital on Ellis Island...
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| 7:13:47 PM | GWG | The fun spots
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| 7:13:51 PM | TheFu | I love to visit Air and Space Museums around the world.
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| 7:14:29 PM | GWG | I want to go back to the Udvar Hazy Museum. I didn't get to see it all
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| 7:14:47 PM | TheFu | The Toilet of Modern Art - not to be missed.
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| 7:15:41 PM | GWG | Oddly enough, I have been to the DEA museum more than once. They have a great exhibit on drug paraphernalia throughout the ages.
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| 7:15:49 PM | SashaR | My sister's husband (we are staying with them for the week) is a pilot-- and loves air/space stuff :)
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| 7:16:04 PM | TheFu | Ah ... you mean the Dulles branch of Smithsonian Air and Space - been there. ;)
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| 7:16:19 PM | GWG | I did mean that
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| 7:16:43 PM | GWG | I just missed Cranky Dorkfest DFW
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| 7:16:52 PM | GWG | It sounded like fun
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| 7:17:12 PM | MarshMan | Greetings from a bus on the NJ Turnpike
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| 7:17:21 PM | TheFu | Paris Air Show is on my bucket list.
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| 7:17:34 PM | GWG | Where are you going Marshman?
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| 7:17:46 PM | SashaR | Home, no doubt
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| 7:17:49 PM | TheFu | We should return to the scheduled program. ;) pi-hole. Nice.
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| 7:17:54 PM | MarshMan | Home, just left work in NYC
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| 7:18:19 PM | GWG | Fun
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| 7:18:42 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan That's a l-o-n-g ride once...or TWICE...a day.
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| 7:18:59 PM | MarshMan | Once again, watching show on one phone and Discord on anothe
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| 7:19:16 PM | MarshMan | Yup, two hours each way
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| 7:19:47 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan Sure, if there's no traffic!
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| 7:20:12 PM | MarshMan | Thanks for that ABQTKY
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| 7:20:27 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan Sorry about that.
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| 7:20:56 PM | MarshMan | Just need to get thru Joisey
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| 7:22:07 PM | TheFu | Wonder how Robbie labels and organizes all these tiny, extra, tools necessary to do all the stuff he does.
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| 7:22:21 PM | TheFu | Label Maker?
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| 7:22:21 PM | MarshMan | Labels?
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| 7:23:01 PM | MarshMan | Organizes?
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| 7:23:14 PM | TheFu | I lost an m.2 SSD 2240 size for about a year because I put it somewhere that made perfect sense. ;)
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| 7:23:35 PM | MarshMan | Hah, been there.
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| 7:24:03 PM | ABQTKY | I didn't say a word about misplacing stuff.
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| 7:24:29 PM | TheFu | After 20+ yrs, I bet Robbie has a but of .... "cherished" items that may never be used more than once.
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| 7:24:40 PM | TheFu | s/but/bunch/
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| 7:25:44 PM | ABQTKY | TheFu Good point...BTW, anybody have a keyboard cable for a Kaypro2 laying around...somewhere???
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| 7:26:20 PM | SashaR | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495592877733183489/555532126980800546/cid_445.jpg
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| 7:26:22 PM | TheFu | ABQTKY, link with an image, please?
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| 7:26:53 PM | Solbu | I've been blocking ad networks using dns blocking on my linux gateway since about 2001.
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| 7:27:22 PM | TheFu | Close - https://pi-hole.net/
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| 7:27:23 PM | ABQTKY | TheFu they didn't have modern stuff like 'links' or 'images' back in the early 80's...not that I had a Kaypro back then.
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| 7:27:55 PM | MoeMaravilla | I use opendns for that... It's free.
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| 7:27:56 PM | TheFu | https://lifehacker.com/how-to-block-unwanted-ads-in-all-applications-and-speed-30814279
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| 7:29:12 PM | TheFu | Pi-hole is better for a home network than my Lifehacker article suggestion.
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| 7:29:18 PM | ABQTKY | Welcome to Cat5, Ugur.Aba!!
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| 7:29:41 PM | Cee128d | ABQTKY See if this helps. http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?42388-Kaypro-II-Keyboard-(Coiled-Cable)-Wiring-information
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| 7:30:45 PM | ABQTKY | Cee128d BTW, I used to use WordStar on a C128. Kind of slow Z80, though.
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| 7:31:55 PM | TheFu | Ah - kaypro is from the late '70s. Ouch. No can help.
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| 7:32:00 PM | ABQTKY | Thanks for the link, Cee128d 8-)
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| 7:32:26 PM | Cee128d | I was (and still am) a die hard WordPerfect user since the lmid 1980's. That's why I can't go Linux for 24/7/365
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| 7:32:46 PM | TheFu | Didn't opendns get bought by Cisco?
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| 7:33:11 PM | Cee128d | Yes they did.
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| 7:33:31 PM | TheFu | If you use wordperfect for DOS, a DOSBOX will work perfectly.
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| 7:34:27 PM | ABQTKY | Cee128d WordPerfect? Eh. I used WordStar to publish a (very) small newsletter...using a 9 pin dot matrix printer. (But I had a system)
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| 7:34:33 PM | Cee128d | I use a more up to date version so that I can import MS Word docx files. That's only for Windows.
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| 7:35:17 PM | Cee128d | And the newer Windows versions have a lot of other features not found on the old WP Dos versions.
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| 7:35:26 PM | ABQTKY | Cee128d But WordPerfect was famous for having superlative customer service!
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| 7:36:08 PM | SashaR | Stop muting me Jeff!!!
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| 7:36:39 PM | SweSG | Hi
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| 7:37:18 PM | ABQTKY | Cee128d DOS??? That's the modern stuff! (or WAS the modern stuff)
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| 7:37:26 PM | Cee128d | WordPerfect did have one of the best support departments when it was owned by WP. After they sold it to Novell which sold it to Corel they closed the Orem, UT support facility and fired all of the actual WP Support people when they moved to Corel in Canada.
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| 7:38:31 PM | ABQTKY | Cee128d Hey, we should have a computer history show on Cat5 one of these days. (or maybe not)
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| 7:39:20 PM | ugur.aba | Hi everyone, this episode is great.
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| 7:39:56 PM | TheFu | What can be done and what _should_ be done are usually very different.
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| 7:40:36 PM | Cee128d | ABQTKY That would be awesome. Unfortunately I lost most of my pre 2005 computers and all of my antique/classic/ software in a move several years ago
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| 7:41:01 PM | ABQTKY | Cee128d Bragging or complaining about that?
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| 7:41:58 PM | Cee128d | Lost my original Kaypro and the Kaypro 2, TI-99, IBM 5150 and 5155 portable, TRS-50 Model 1-4, CoCos, etc. Over a hundred classic computers never arrived.
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| 7:42:15 PM | TheFu | 160Kb floppies with code still here. No way to easily read them anymore. I did keep hardware, however.
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| 7:42:42 PM | TheFu | Sold the Mac-128 in the early 1990s.
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| 7:42:42 PM | Cee128d | More complaining as I miss some of them. And Jeff, I'm talking the larger 8 in cloppies
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| 7:43:12 PM | Cee128d | No Macs, but a lot of old Apple 2x models and clones.
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| 7:44:09 PM | ABQTKY | Cee128d A hundred of 'em? Phwew! I only have one 8 inch floppy...very floppy. Never had an 8 inch drive though.
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| 7:44:24 PM | MoeMaravilla | Robbie should leave the second DNS entry in case the pi-hole is down.
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| 7:44:25 PM | TheFu | IF you reboot the router, will the stream drop?
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| 7:44:25 PM | SashaR | This is such great info :):)
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| 7:45:05 PM | TheFu | Or put a 2ndary DNS into a virtual machine, so you don't have outages due to the pi-hole hardware failing.
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| 7:46:18 PM | MoeMaravilla | As far as I know it is primary, secondary, tertiary.
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| 7:48:12 PM | MarshMan | @RobbieF when you made the change on the router did you need to hit apply?
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| 7:48:32 PM | Cee128d | Could you run pi hole on X86 hardware? I don't have any of those SBCs, but I have several old laptops laying around here. Need to set up something like this at our church.
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| 7:48:41 PM | TheFu | Robbie - Testify!
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| 7:49:06 PM | TheFu | Cee128d - yes. Pi-hole should work on any Linux.
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| 7:49:30 PM | Cee128d | Thanks Fu.
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| 7:49:35 PM | UğurABA | Is that possible to create some groups ? For example some users will see the ads and other are not ?
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| 7:51:34 PM | TheFu | UğurABA - DNS doesn't work that way, but you can setup different DNS servers with different policies. OpenDNS has some capabilities.
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| 7:52:08 PM | TheFu | Hit category5.tv ...
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| 7:54:14 PM | UğurABA | So we can split the users, which are allowed to see ads and disallowed ?
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| 7:55:04 PM | TheFu | If you want to block access by users, a proxy server is probably better. Check out squid.
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| 7:55:48 PM | UğurABA | Thanks you TheFu i will check it.
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| 7:56:26 PM | TheFu | If you go that route, block outside DNS from all desktops/client machines. Only the squid proxy server should have access to external DNS.
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| 7:56:58 PM | TheFu | When I say "block", I mean at the firewall. Don't trust clients. Ever.
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| 7:57:16 PM | TheFu | network-firewall.
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| 7:58:29 PM | TheFu | Also, block web access from the clients. Only the proxy server should have external access to the internet.
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| 8:01:26 PM | MoeMaravilla | I found a link that agrees with me.
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| 8:01:26 PM | UğurABA | 👍
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| 8:02:00 PM | TheFu | I found one that agrees with Robbie. Might be OS specific about the order.
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| 8:02:32 PM | SashaR | Win win :)
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| 8:03:12 PM | TheFu | It was an excellent question!
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| 8:03:30 PM | GWG | I want an ad for a flux capacitor I
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| 8:03:32 PM | MoeMaravilla | ;)
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| 8:03:55 PM | GWG | Does it come with Mr Fusion?
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| 8:03:55 PM | MarshMan | Those aren't ads you are sending
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| 8:04:13 PM | TheFu | Jeff - DNS blocks in and out if it doesn't find the server.
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| 8:04:30 PM | TheFu | It is the nuclear option.
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| 8:05:05 PM | MarshMan | That's data gathering by the site
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| 8:05:56 PM | GWG | I have a Delorean Time Machine...scale model
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| 8:06:18 PM | MarshMan | If another site tries to send an ad for the flux capacitor it will be blocked
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| 8:06:24 PM | UğurABA | The site is still keep ads tracking right ?
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| 8:06:32 PM | MarshMan | 88 jigawatts
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| 8:06:54 PM | TheFu | https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-capacitor ... Out of stock.
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| 8:07:43 PM | SashaR | Don't show me up!! Lol
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| 8:07:50 PM | MarshMan | What do we call the update blocker?
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| 8:08:09 PM | MarshMan | No one can outdo you @SashaR
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| 8:08:23 PM | MarshMan | SODIMM
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| 8:10:37 PM | GWG | Robbie the Robocaller?
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| 8:12:31 PM | TheFu | Different consumer protection laws exist around the world. Not all countries have pro-consumer rights with very limited liability.
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| 8:17:53 PM | TheFu | "Earnist?" Nice.
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| 8:18:08 PM | UğurABA | I believe that bitcoin wallet guy is not dead.
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| 8:18:34 PM | MarshMan | Ernst, not Ernest or Earnist 😛
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| 8:20:41 PM | TheFu | $10 is $10, Robbie.
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| 8:24:30 PM | TheFu | Retail grocery stores accept cash at the self-checkout.
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| 8:25:30 PM | TheFu | Many cities have poorer neighborhoods don't have banks. This leads to them being "under-banked" - no bank services there.
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| 8:26:57 PM | TheFu | Cards that are re-loaded have much more tracking than "gift cards" which can be completely anonymous.
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| 8:30:40 PM | Cee128d | MicroSoft laid off all of their paid testers prior to the release of Windows 10. That's why you have faulty updates as they use the Windows 10 Home users as unpaid Beta testers of updates.
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| 8:31:55 PM | UğurABA | In Windows 10 Pro versions, does they not force to you update ?
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| 8:32:34 PM | MarshMan | @Jeff Weston would you really want to wait 30 days for a Windows security update?
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| 8:33:31 PM | Cee128d | UgurABA, sort of. In Pro you have the option of being on the slow business track which delays some updates and you can manually set delays as well. You can pause updates for a couple of months, but you can only stop them altogether in Enterprise.
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| 8:34:50 PM | SashaR | Thanks guys :):):)
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| 8:34:59 PM | Cee128d | MarshMan I have all of my Win 10 systems set to wait a week before updating except for one. I use that one to judge for myself if they are safe for the rest.
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| 8:37:00 PM | UğurABA | thank you @Cee128d
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| 8:37:33 PM | Cee128d | No problem Ugur
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| 8:38:02 PM | MoeMaravilla | Bye to all... Another great show.
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| 8:38:28 PM | UğurABA | Next episode is 600 !
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| 8:38:58 PM | Cee128d | Everyone book your trip to Barry for the afterparty next week.
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| 8:39:05 PM | Skywriter64 | Any special doings for next week?
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| 8:40:05 PM | RobbieF | thanks all!!
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| 8:40:34 PM | UğurABA | See you all next episode, best wish from Turkey, Çanakkale.
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| 8:40:53 PM | Cee128d | Jeff, can the afford NOT to?
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| 8:41:21 PM | TheFu | Get the super to include it in the budget for 2020.
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| 8:43:03 PM | Cee128d | L8r folks. I am out of here. Got work to do. Working on recovering data from a dieing 1gig hard drive.
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| 8:44:08 PM | Solbu | Nice. Someone in Nebraska made a full size car made by snow. And they got a «fake» tow ticket from a police officer. :-)
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| 8:44:09 PM | Solbu | https://boingboing.net/2019/03/13/police-officer-gives-pretend-t.html
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| 8:51:30 PM | MarshMan | @RobbieF I asked about hitting Apply on the router cuz when I was setting reservations I hit Apply to make the reservation then had to hit Apply again to propagate those reservations
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| 8:51:53 PM | MarshMan | Wondered if the same was for you with the DNS setting
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| 8:52:09 PM | RobbieF | Quite likely.
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| 8:52:53 PM | MarshMan | Yeah, learned it the hard way. 🤪
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| 8:53:21 PM | MarshMan | Crashing hard here. Just got in from work.
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| 8:53:34 PM | RobbieF | I'm not home yet 😛 A bit of editing to do haha
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| 8:54:00 PM | MarshMan | Yeah, yeah, I know.
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| 8:55:40 PM | RobbieF | 😃
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| 8:55:45 PM | RobbieF | Just need to free up enough space.
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| 8:55:56 PM | RobbieF | Running out of things to delete.
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| 8:56:47 PM | MarshMan | https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/03/13/raspberry-pi-suddenly-not-working-repair-microsd-card/amp/. This link could use Pi-Hole. Too many ads.
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| 8:57:57 PM | MarshMan | That’s a big ask.
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| 9:04:34 PM | RobbieF | I don't see any ads.
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| 9:04:35 PM | RobbieF | 😛
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| 9:06:42 PM | MarshMan | Neither will I in a few days
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| 9:07:00 PM | RobbieF | 😃
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