| 6:58:02 PM | MarshMan | Hey @RobbieF show your screen again
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| 6:58:31 PM | TheFu | Price/performance is less important when you only upgrade every 8+ yrs.
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| 6:58:33 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Save this for the show. :-)
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| 6:59:06 PM | MarshMan | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495592877733183489/578355702565699614/Pinebook.jpg
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| 6:59:32 PM | MarshMan | Gotcha!!
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| 6:59:47 PM | Solbu | Yes, I heard that.
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| 6:59:53 PM | TheFu | I'm all about Price/Performance. Built an AMD new box 5 months ago. Intel couldn't touch the price/performance.
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| 6:59:58 PM | Solbu | Or, rather. We DIDN'T hear it. ;-)
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| 7:00:29 PM | MarshMan | I did
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| 7:01:13 PM | MarshMan | In the pocket it put a strain on the plug if it moves
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| 7:02:09 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Sarcasm., ;-)
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| 7:03:00 PM | MarshMan | Now we are late
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| 7:04:00 PM | MarshMan | Losing Jeff
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| 7:04:34 PM | TheFu | This is the worst that Jeff's sound has been in 2+ yrs.
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| 7:06:21 PM | TheFu | Maybe don't move when you talk?
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| 7:06:36 PM | SashaR | Or don't talk!!! 😉
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| 7:06:58 PM | MarshMan | @Sean DeSitely you da best
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| 7:07:07 PM | Solbu | Hehe.
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| 7:07:22 PM | TheFu | Sasha! We like Jeff just as much as we like you and Robbie!
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| 7:08:04 PM | noeman5 | Howdy all!
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| 7:08:36 PM | noeman5 | creepy
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| 7:08:39 PM | SashaR | 😃 I know! I do too!!
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| 7:09:21 PM | TheFu | Assistive device or Personal tracking device?
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| 7:10:00 PM | noeman5 | This is weird, Jeff, the conspiracy nut sounds like he's defending the home wiretap machine.
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| 7:10:29 PM | MarshMan | Bizzaroworld!
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| 7:12:10 PM | Blokey | I STILL missed the start !
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| 7:12:44 PM | MarshMan | I added an answer to the poll , I chose INvasive
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| 7:13:24 PM | TheFu | Clever if you expect it. Creepy otherwise. Especially if you are pregnant and don't know it, but get pregnancy ads.
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| 7:14:13 PM | MarshMan | Very nice @RobbieF , trust the Internet
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| 7:16:12 PM | TheFu | A teen girl was outed as pregnant by Target due to these ads. Her father was not amused.
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| 7:16:45 PM | noeman5 | That could be funny, the guy upstairs starts getting ads for Victoria's Secret.
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| 7:19:11 PM | noeman5 | Death to decaf
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| 7:19:21 PM | MarshMan | Some of us cannot have caffeine
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| 7:19:38 PM | Blokey | I'll take mine black
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| 7:21:37 PM | MarshMan | I dislike getting the ads for the stuff I've already purcahsed
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| 7:21:39 PM | TheFu | Amazon tries to sell me something I bought 2 weeks ago and it is something you only need 1.
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| 7:22:10 PM | Solbu | What? THere are ads on the internet?
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| 7:22:37 PM | TheFu | No here. Nor in TV.
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| 7:22:59 PM | Solbu | I've been running an adblocker for allmost 20 years. The last 10 years I've been blocking ad servers using BIND (dns) on my router.
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| 7:23:09 PM | TheFu | pi-hole.
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| 7:23:20 PM | Skywriter64 | MarshMan, Linus tech on youtube reviewed the Pine 64 $99 laptop said & showed it is very slowly etc.
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| 7:23:35 PM | Solbu | I have a regular linux distro running as my router, which also block ads. I manually add the ad servers.
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| 7:24:05 PM | MarshMan | Skywriter64 it is not meant to be a full blown laptop replacement
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| 7:24:15 PM | noeman5 | I run Epic browser in Windows, it blocks all ads automatically.
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| 7:24:16 PM | MarshMan | the Pinebook Pro will be that
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| 7:24:19 PM | Solbu | I also use noscript. You won't believe the ad's and tracking that single step blocks.
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| 7:25:50 PM | noeman5 | caves? tunnels?
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| 7:26:55 PM | noeman5 | Love the GIMP but it has a high learning curve.
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| 7:27:18 PM | MarshMan | I still have that white piece of paper in my wallet
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| 7:27:43 PM | MarshMan | Hey Dave, see the abuse @Jeff Weston gives @SashaR
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| 7:28:52 PM | TheFu | Jail cells?
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| 7:29:01 PM | TheFu | er .... so I've heard.
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| 7:29:08 PM | MarshMan | Ha
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| 7:30:04 PM | TheFu | Which country?
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| 7:31:00 PM | noeman5 | @Jeff Weston Me too, I worked a jail In Arizona for almost 8 years.
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| 7:36:16 PM | ameridroid | Hmm. My YouTube app didn't inform me the live show was starting. Sorry I'm late!
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| 7:37:05 PM | MarshMan | Hey there ameridroid
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| 7:38:43 PM | MarshMan | I've been in that garage. The ducts are actually blue
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| 7:38:53 PM | SashaR | Hahaha
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| 7:40:55 PM | MarshMan | I want a pico sim
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| 7:41:32 PM | noeman5 | @ameriDroid youtube informed me, but 20 minutes early.,
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| 7:41:38 PM | noeman5 | normally silly?
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| 7:42:32 PM | noeman5 | That is so wrong Jeff
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| 7:42:34 PM | Solbu | Hehehe.. Nice Jeff.
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| 7:42:51 PM | MarshMan | Noew THAT is creepy @Jeff Weston
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| 7:43:51 PM | noeman5 | Oh no! Sasha's on the edge!
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| 7:45:15 PM | Gopher | Test
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| 7:46:27 PM | TheFu | Last time I did the sim-sim change, it was 5 min on the phone with CSA and $1 for the new SIM.
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| 7:48:11 PM | Gopher | You try aligning a micro or nano sim into a regular sim slot in a phone. Hours of pain.
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| 7:48:17 PM | MarshMan | Let's crush this sim
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| 7:49:30 PM | Solbu | I can envision a new game: Sim Phone.
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| 7:49:54 PM | MarshMan | I envision a new sim order coming
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| 7:50:16 PM | TheFu | Nope. Scissors work too.
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| 7:51:21 PM | MarshMan | You did a backup right @RobbieF ?
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| 7:52:17 PM | MarshMan | Not happening
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| 7:53:19 PM | TheFu | You can backup SIM data.
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| 7:55:28 PM | TheFu | http://www.ladyada.net/make/simreader/download.html ...
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| 7:57:00 PM | Solbu | Jeff: is it recording?
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| 7:57:08 PM | SashaR | yes
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| 7:58:22 PM | TheFu | Don't the phone IMEI and SIM have to be paired by the cell provider?
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| 7:59:23 PM | Solbu | TheFu: THat depends on the phone, and the age of the phone.
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| 7:59:58 PM | Gopher | Not if the phone network unlocked
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| 8:00:06 PM | Solbu | In europe at least, providers are legaly required to provide unlock codes 12 months after the sale.
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| 8:00:31 PM | Solbu | And most don't bother any longer.
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| 8:00:54 PM | TheFu | I haven't owned a network locked phone since around 2005.
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| 8:01:18 PM | TheFu | SIM contacts aren't the same as Android contacts.
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| 8:01:24 PM | BekahF | 😎
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| 8:02:26 PM | BekahF | https://tenor.com/view/phew-dogs-gif-10241261
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| 8:04:36 PM | TheFu | jaaava?
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| 8:05:00 PM | ameridroid | Caaaanada
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| 8:05:34 PM | ameridroid | Ask her to say "pasta"
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| 8:06:14 PM | Solbu | I use static html pages. No database to hack.
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| 8:06:33 PM | TheFu | They are all php, right?
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| 8:17:06 PM | MarshMan | Embedded XP devices are usually forgotten about
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| 8:17:19 PM | alpeck | think about all the credit unions that are still probably running atm with WindowsXP
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| 8:17:34 PM | alpeck | ^atm's
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| 8:19:09 PM | TheFu | Robbie - it is millions.
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| 8:19:17 PM | TheFu | Even in CAD.
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| 8:20:25 PM | TheFu | x2go FTW! Use ssh-keys or ssh-certs.
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| 8:20:39 PM | TheFu | 2-3x faster than VNC or RDP.
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| 8:22:36 PM | Gopher | x2go is interesting thefu. A new one on me
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| 8:23:02 PM | alpeck | kudos to them
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| 8:26:14 PM | alpeck | key phrase...It is not conducive to a democratic society.
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| 8:27:03 PM | TheFu | x2go uses the NX protocol. That uses ssh tunnels and ssh-based authentication. There are other implementations, but they have limitations.
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| 8:27:06 PM | TheFu | x2go is F/LOSS.
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| 8:28:51 PM | TheFu | So BC is negative correlated with the world stock markets?
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| 8:35:16 PM | ameridroid | Alexa = creepy
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| 8:35:57 PM | SashaR | Goodnight everyone 😃 Thank you for being here!!!
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| 8:36:53 PM | ameridroid | Have a great evening, all!
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| 8:37:46 PM | Blokey | Good show as usual
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| 8:38:04 PM | Blokey | Now I can get some dinner!
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| 8:39:52 PM | Gopher | OK nice TheFu. I have not heard of NX either
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| 8:50:00 PM | bp9 | Thanks for a great show @RobbieF @Jeff Weston @SashaR
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| 8:50:24 PM | noeman5 | good night all!
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| 8:50:36 PM | bp9 | I got in late and only caught the last 20 mins or so... while you all were sweating over the SIM replacement. 😃
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| 8:51:10 PM | bp9 | @MarshMan that Pinebook is pretty spiffy, eh?
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| 8:51:24 PM | bp9 | (mine arrived yesterday)
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| 8:51:31 PM | MarshMan | Cool!
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| 8:52:00 PM | bp9 | I was up all night playing wth it. It's more capable than this laptop LOL
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| 8:52:08 PM | MarshMan | Yeah, my only problem is opening it when I have no fingernails to catch on the bottom 😛
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| 8:52:29 PM | bp9 | And finding that
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| 8:52:35 PM | bp9 | I expect it to be bigger
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| 8:53:04 PM | MarshMan | Yeah some keys are half size compared to full kb
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| 8:53:14 PM | bp9 | I put in a 64Gb SD card for storage + the 16Gb internal storage, seems to be enough for me.
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| 8:53:31 PM | MarshMan | I did upgrade to the 64G eMMC and loaded Manjaro
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| 8:53:40 PM | bp9 | It's not billed as a replacement for a full-blown laptop but I'd certainly try it.
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| 8:54:00 PM | MarshMan | Yup, someone questioned that tonight in the chat
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| 8:54:21 PM | MarshMan | full-blown laptop was the EXACT term I used
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| 8:54:27 PM | bp9 | I might still do that. I like xfce instead of KDE but I'm nervous about blowing away the live image and replacing it...
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| 8:54:39 PM | bp9 | want to make sure all the drivers are there.
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| 8:54:48 PM | MarshMan | I had an extra so I can easily go back
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| 8:55:09 PM | bp9 | I know, I reviewed all the old messages (from about a week ago).
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| 8:55:20 PM | bp9 | An extra what? eMMC card?
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| 8:55:32 PM | MarshMan | @lukasz recommended Manjaro so I went for it
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| 8:55:43 PM | MarshMan | yes extra eMMC
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| 8:55:55 PM | bp9 | You have to take the Pinebook apart to replace the MMC. I checked the website. 😃
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| 8:56:20 PM | MarshMan | Yup, ten small screws and a piece of tape. VERY easy
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| 8:56:43 PM | bp9 | So you got the 64Gb eMMC separately and upgraded it yourself?
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| 8:57:03 PM | bp9 | I can certainly do it... I'm curious to see how it looks inside 😃
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| 8:57:05 PM | MarshMan | Yup
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| 8:57:29 PM | MarshMan | Isn't much in there.
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| 8:57:59 PM | bp9 | Nice. I'm just going to play with it for a while first, but it won't break my heart to lose KDE LOL
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| 8:58:31 PM | bp9 | Manjaro == another ubuntu distro?
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| 8:58:50 PM | MarshMan | No Quite different
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| 8:58:55 PM | ameridroid | Are you guys talking about the Pinebook or the Pinebook Pro?
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| 8:59:02 PM | ameridroid | I have the original Pinebook.
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| 8:59:09 PM | MarshMan | Uses Pacman as the package manager
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| 8:59:13 PM | bp9 | Pinebook
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| 8:59:33 PM | RobbieF | @MarshMan I take it by the photo today that your Pinebook arrived today???
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| 8:59:46 PM | bp9 | It has the arm processor so it's kind of fun to find packages LOL
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| 8:59:57 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF mine did too. 😃
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| 9:00:01 PM | RobbieF | ameridroid I can't get my hands on the Pinebook Pro just yet; have to wait till it is out of initial dev.
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| 9:00:04 PM | MarshMan | It arrived Monday
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| 9:00:10 PM | RobbieF | Way to go @bp9
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| 9:00:15 PM | RobbieF | Mine is stuck at the border.
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| 9:00:24 PM | bp9 | Stayed up all night playing with it 😃
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| 9:00:32 PM | RobbieF | hehe
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| 9:00:37 PM | RobbieF | gonna make a nice dev device.
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| 9:00:52 PM | RobbieF | I basically live in the Linux terminal, so I'm gonna love it.
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| 9:00:53 PM | bp9 | You'll like it. It's more capable than this laptop.
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| 9:00:55 PM | MarshMan | I received the DHL notification last week that's why I started breaking your stones about 6:58
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| 9:00:59 PM | ameridroid | The Pinebook, while a bit on the slower side, is perfect to take on business trips as it is thin, light and has excellent battery life.
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| 9:01:16 PM | bp9 | I was telling @MarshMan that I would absolutely use it for a daily driver
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| 9:01:17 PM | RobbieF | You're such a tease @MarshMan -- that was driving me nuts.
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| 9:01:21 PM | ameridroid | It's my laptop of choice when I travel.
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| 9:01:35 PM | MarshMan | Was good tho eh? @RobbieF
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| 9:02:00 PM | RobbieF | I use Google Drive for all my doc stuff now... so the Pinebook is gonna be a real performer for anything I need to do day-to-day.
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| 9:02:12 PM | RobbieF | Super good @MarshMan
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| 9:02:19 PM | RobbieF | not like you though to keep something like that from me. 😄
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| 9:02:31 PM | MarshMan | It was tough I tell ya
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| 9:02:38 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF I don't use google drive, I have a synology box -- my own private cloud
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| 9:03:09 PM | MarshMan | I got the reaction I wanted tho @RobbieF
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| 9:03:23 PM | bp9 | Used the partner link -- you're welcome LOL
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| 9:03:44 PM | RobbieF | Aww thanks @bp9
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| 9:03:47 PM | ameridroid | @RobbieF Looking like sometime between June 17-27 will work for us. Let us know what dates in there work for you or don't.
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| 9:04:23 PM | RobbieF | By a show of hands, how many people want ameridroid to make an appearance on Category5 Technology TV ... say, between June 17-27? 😄
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| 9:04:38 PM | RobbieF | ^^ Sounds great ameridroid!! Email me k?
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| 9:04:44 PM | ameridroid | K
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| 9:04:48 PM | MarshMan | 🙌
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| 9:06:01 PM | bp9 | So @RobbieF do I gather you cut up your wifey's SIM card?
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| 9:06:41 PM | bp9 | Brave move. LOL
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| 9:07:28 PM | RobbieF | Ohmigosh, @bp9 I'm brave, but that took courage.
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| 9:07:39 PM | RobbieF | It's a good thing I know @BekahF loves me no matter what. 😛
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| 9:07:47 PM | bp9 | Hee hee
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| 9:07:50 PM | Solbu | Hehe
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| 9:08:40 PM | bp9 | I definitely need to review that episode but all the SIM cards I have will snap down all the way to nano size.
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| 9:09:08 PM | bp9 | and I keep the filler pieces inc ase I ever have to reverse the upgrade
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| 9:09:30 PM | RobbieF | Yeah those are cool design. But this one was originally a SIM that I manually cut down to a Micro SIM, but had to now take her down to a NANO SIM and didn't trust my own abilities; so for the same price of a new Nano SIM, I bought the punching tool.
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| 9:09:55 PM | bp9 | That works.
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| 9:10:10 PM | bp9 | I do like that you gave @Jeff Weston a heart attack tho LOL
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| 9:10:14 PM | RobbieF | 😛
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| 9:10:18 PM | RobbieF | I kinda did.
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| 9:10:23 PM | RobbieF | I'll add some really intense music.
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| 9:10:27 PM | bp9 | That was about where I tuned in.
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| 9:10:58 PM | bp9 | Not sure why he was so worried -- it wasn't his phone?
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| 9:11:58 PM | RobbieF | He just knows I love my wife, so he'd hate to see her angry at me.
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| 9:12:23 PM | bp9 | nods
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| 9:12:42 PM | ameridroid | Got to go home to eat some supper. See y'all next time!
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| 9:12:48 PM | bp9 | Got it. But the good thing about being the @BaldNerd is that you can fix it. 😃
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| 9:12:55 PM | bp9 | Have a good night
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| 9:12:59 PM | RobbieF | seeya ameridroid. Hope you enjoyed the show 😃
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| 9:13:11 PM | bp9 | You better grab @BaldNerd before someone else does LOL
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| 9:13:59 PM | RobbieF | @bp9 if by "fix" it you mean I could buy her a new SIM and port the number over if I absolutely had to, I guess you're right 😛 That was my failsafe. But would have made for a disappointing show - LOL.
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| 9:14:40 PM | bp9 | @RobbieF Well yeah that's pretty much your only option if you destroy the SIM. 😃
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| 9:15:43 PM | RobbieF | 😛
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| 9:16:06 PM | bp9 | Have a good night -- I'm going to have dinner. 😃
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| 9:16:20 PM | RobbieF | enjoy! My dinner will come later.
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| 9:16:37 PM | bp9 | Thank you Sir -- you too!
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| 9:18:05 PM | RobbieF | I'm glad I decided to bite the bullet and get that headset monitoring system: in its first night it proved itself by catching Jeff's mic issue at the top of the show!
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| 9:18:25 PM | MarshMan | Yup, good job!
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| 9:18:39 PM | RobbieF | Just so ya'll are aware: https://amzn.to/2HlJszy
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| 9:19:19 PM | RobbieF | I'll be posting more about it as I learn how I like it. But that was very encouraging.
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| 9:19:56 PM | Solbu | Some of our musicians during chuch service use in-ear monitors. Makes our life a lot easier.
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| 9:20:09 PM | RobbieF | After @SashaR 's mic stopped working last week, I felt it was critical.
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| 9:20:55 PM | Solbu | Now you're just missing a tool that detects that Solbu is having streaming troubles, and you're all set. ;-)
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| 9:21:09 PM | RobbieF | 😛
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| 9:21:20 PM | RobbieF | "STOP THE SHOW - Solbu is having trouble"
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| 9:21:30 PM | RobbieF | "My SOLBU-SENSOR has gone off"
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