| 6:59:30 PM | Skywriter64 | Hi from Brooklyn NY
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| 7:00:04 PM | noeman5 | NEVER have a V8 (unless it's an engine.)
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| 7:01:39 PM | Solbu | And now Solbu is reado. THe «Law & order» episode jut ended.
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| 7:01:45 PM | noeman5 | She gave her laptop a bath
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| 7:02:03 PM | noeman5 | A thinger? Ha Ha Ha
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| 7:02:14 PM | TheFu | Sasha - chromebooks support a guest login ... no gmail account needed.
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| 7:03:02 PM | MarshMan | @SashaR get up abd storm out
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| 7:03:12 PM | noeman5 | Now we have Techknowledgable and Thinger.
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| 7:03:17 PM | TheFu | Sasha, can't you look on your phone for the password DB entries?
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| 7:03:30 PM | Solbu | Chat is Go for launch
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| 7:03:39 PM | TheFu | and lunch!
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| 7:03:51 PM | noeman5 | Or Dinner
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| 7:04:13 PM | TheFu | or b'fast in Japan.
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| 7:05:22 PM | SashaR | I changed the password and I need the old one :\
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| 7:06:03 PM | TheFu | Guest login?
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| 7:06:36 PM | ABQTKY | SashaR Maybe you could mention to Robbie that the Albuquerque Turque's little keyboard is working fine. I actually won it a few weeks ago. Nice! I already sent a note to say thanks. Uh, oh, news about SSD stuff!!! I better stop writing and listen.
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| 7:07:02 PM | TheFu | Is UASP the same instruction set as SATA?
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| 7:07:57 PM | TheFu | uses the standard SCSI command set ..... so good.
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| 7:08:08 PM | ABQTKY | During a break, SashaR, during a break.
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| 7:08:11 PM | SashaR | I'm going to attempt a reinstall
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| 7:08:21 PM | SashaR | And I will certainly!
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| 7:09:28 PM | TheFu | Theoretical bus throughput is usually, just that. Theoretical. Only an NVMe storage device can push that sort of bandwidth.
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| 7:10:25 PM | ABQTKY | SashaR Isn't USB 3.1 Gen 2 the current name for 10GbPS and USB3.1 Gen 1 the same as the old 'USB 3?? Sorry about this.
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| 7:12:10 PM | ABQTKY | SashaR I'll shut up and wait for USB 4.
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| 7:12:28 PM | TheFu | Why not Infiniband, Robbie? Don't limit yourself! ;)
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| 7:12:33 PM | SashaR | Haha
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| 7:12:34 PM | ABQTKY | They changed all the names!!
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| 7:14:15 PM | TheFu | I've seen queuing issues with USB connected storage when more than 2 processes try to do anything on the storage.
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| 7:14:27 PM | TheFu | eSATA has never shown that on any of my systems.
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| 7:16:45 PM | TheFu | But ... the network is only 1 Gbps, right?
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| 7:16:47 PM | MarshMan | You are never going to get either 5Gbps let alone 10 Gbps in actual practice anyway
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| 7:16:57 PM | TheFu | MM - Testify!
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| 7:17:21 PM | ABQTKY | MarshMan Spoilsport!
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| 7:17:27 PM | MarshMan | It's all moot
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| 7:17:43 PM | Solbu | The price … is Right.
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| 7:18:47 PM | TheFu | Uh ... the storage is slower than that. Spinning disks might get 200 Mbps, tops.
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| 7:18:53 PM | ameriDroid | Hello all
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| 7:19:21 PM | TheFu | SATA connected SSDs, like a Samsung 860 is more like 600 Mbps.
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| 7:19:27 PM | MarshMan | Until the XU4 goes EOL
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| 7:19:56 PM | MarshMan | I choose floppy
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| 7:20:55 PM | ameriDroid | I'm late. Are we talking about the plug and play NAS solutions ameriDroid is making?
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| 7:21:05 PM | MarshMan | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495592877733183489/651941077162524682/979418-5-1-4-floppy-diskette-illustration-isometric-3d-style.jpg
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| 7:21:32 PM | noeman5 | Just lost the stream
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| 7:21:37 PM | ameriDroid | Me too
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| 7:21:45 PM | TheFu | youtube stream is down.
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| 7:21:47 PM | Solbu | Soo. I have 100 Mbit connection, and kodi is buffering.
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| 7:21:47 PM | ABQTKY | Me three!
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| 7:21:49 PM | Solbu | Ahh.
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| 7:21:57 PM | SashaR | Workin on it :)
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| 7:22:00 PM | Skywriter64 | Of course, we are talking about SSD v Hdd
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| 7:22:13 PM | TheFu | v NVMe SSD?
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| 7:22:15 PM | SashaR | Groan
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| 7:22:23 PM | ABQTKY | video is back
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| 7:22:37 PM | MarshMan | https://tenor.com/view/hamster-wheel-gif-10746499
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| 7:22:38 PM | ameriDroid | I'm late. Are we talking about the plug and play NAS solutions ameriDroid is making?
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| 7:22:54 PM | TheFu | ... no audio. video is back.
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| 7:23:05 PM | BobK54 | same, no audio
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| 7:23:07 PM | Skywriter64 | yes no audio
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| 7:23:41 PM | TheFu | just hearing fuzz.
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| 7:24:27 PM | ameriDroid | No audio here either.
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| 7:24:59 PM | fking | Audio working fine here on kodi.
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| 7:25:11 PM | alpeck | audio is back
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| 7:25:16 PM | noeman5 | Ameridroid, no, @RobbieF is exploring options for a home NAS. He posted a question on Twitter earlier and now they are talking about the answers.
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| 7:25:41 PM | Solbu | 15 years ago someone said he got in truble at school because he said he was doing PHP … the school thouhgt it was a new drug, and expelled him for the day.
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| 7:25:41 PM | noeman5 | No audio on youtube
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| 7:26:08 PM | Solbu | noeman5: dod you reload the stream?
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| 7:26:08 PM | MarshMan | YouTube fine here
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| 7:26:13 PM | Solbu | *did
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| 7:26:15 PM | alpeck | watching on live.cat5.tv because youtube wasn't working
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| 7:26:38 PM | TheFu | audio back ... in a server room? Hear lots of fans.
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| 7:27:01 PM | MarshMan | The air vent is quite noisy
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| 7:27:04 PM | TheFu | audio-less again.
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| 7:27:26 PM | noeman5 | No audio still, closed the window, opened on the website, nothing.
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| 7:28:28 PM | ABQTKY | Back on YouTube...yes, with audio!!
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| 7:28:30 PM | MarshMan | Audio is good on YouTube for me
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| 7:28:33 PM | Solbu | Kodi has audio.
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| 7:28:53 PM | noeman5 | Opened in a different browser, now I have audio
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| 7:29:13 PM | alpeck | youtube is working at the moment
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| 7:29:38 PM | MarshMan | Make the terminal more opaque please @RobbieF
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| 7:30:05 PM | alpeck | no audio or video at the moment for me on youtube
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| 7:30:12 PM | ABQTKY | Seems like big time LATENCY troubles.
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| 7:30:18 PM | noeman5 | Lost audio in the Brave browser, it's working in Epic
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| 7:30:18 PM | alpeck | ^problem
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| 7:30:26 PM | ameriDroid | Did Robbie say something about coding?
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| 7:30:33 PM | BobK54 | we can hear you!
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| 7:30:35 PM | BobK54 | 🙂
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| 7:30:39 PM | ORANGEMAN | OK NOW
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| 7:30:59 PM | BobK54 | "hot mic syndrome", it happens! haha
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| 7:31:07 PM | MarshMan | Using YouTube on Roku and audio is good
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| 7:31:13 PM | alpeck | everything is working now.
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| 7:31:22 PM | TheFu | Give it a name - "Roy" works.
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| 7:31:26 PM | Solbu | Just before Robbie said he changed resolution, the kodi stream buffered on my 100 Mbit connection.
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| 7:31:29 PM | alpeck | sounds good
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| 7:31:35 PM | noeman5 | Including the voices in your head @RobbieF ?
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| 7:31:37 PM | Solbu | But kodi is good at the moment.
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| 7:31:45 PM | ABQTKY | You guys in Barrie are reading chat stuff from an minute or two ago. You need a faster computer, we're fine out here in the rest of the world.
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| 7:32:03 PM | alpeck | I think you are good
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| 7:32:18 PM | TheFu | Is this a replay from earlier?
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| 7:32:27 PM | Solbu | Traffic jam in the series of Tubes.
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| 7:32:43 PM | TheFu | Ah ... needed to reload.
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| 7:33:24 PM | noeman5 | But you love Rapping @RobbieF
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| 7:33:27 PM | ameriDroid | Did Robbie say something about coding?
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| 7:33:47 PM | TheFu | No, he's doing something with php.
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| 7:33:49 PM | TheFu | ;)
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| 7:33:56 PM | ameriDroid | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495592877733183489/651944307334447115/JPEG_20191204_163350.jpg
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| 7:34:12 PM | ameriDroid | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495592877733183489/651944373382021172/JPEG_20191204_163406.jpg
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| 7:34:29 PM | ameriDroid | New product we're working on.
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| 7:34:52 PM | MarshMan | CrunchBang?
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| 7:35:11 PM | noeman5 | #!
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| 7:35:17 PM | Guest_007G | Must have been youtube "burping" again stream back online
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| 7:35:40 PM | MarshMan | I hear it called SheBang
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| 7:35:53 PM | TheFu | sh-bang
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| 7:36:00 PM | MarshMan | whatever
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| 7:36:38 PM | MarshMan | At least we agree on bang
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| 7:36:45 PM | noeman5 | first time I've heard it called Crunch Bang too. Pound Bang, Sh-Bang I've heard before
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| 7:37:27 PM | alpeck | must be a Canadian thing...crunch bang
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| 7:37:36 PM | MarshMan | Now if we can just get @RobbieF to say sudoo instead of sudoe
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| 7:38:15 PM | noeman5 | Scooby-Doo!
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| 7:38:27 PM | MarshMan | Eggsactly
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| 7:38:29 PM | TheFu | a-boot or about?
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| 7:38:40 PM | alpeck | I think I like the crunch-bang
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| 7:38:49 PM | Solbu | Stream issue again.
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| 7:38:57 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream stopped.
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| 7:39:07 PM | noeman5 | Uh-oh, getting a lot of buffering
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| 7:39:39 PM | TheFu | focus, please.
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| 7:39:55 PM | Solbu | We are focusing . on streaming issues. :-)
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| 7:39:59 PM | noeman5 | screen froze
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| 7:40:13 PM | alpeck | youtube stream is down
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| 7:40:39 PM | TheFu | Captain - she can't take it anymore!
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| 7:41:05 PM | alpeck | youtube live stream is totally gone
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| 7:41:37 PM | ABQTKY | SashaR Video just dropped to `144p' but I changed it back to NORMAL. I blame YouTube WAIT,, just froze...again. Must have something to do with Barrie being so far up in the frozem north. Whoa, now YouTube is playing somebody else's video entirely. Fun evening tonight, eh?? 8-)
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| 7:41:56 PM | Solbu | Kodi stopped briefly just now. and came back.
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| 7:42:02 PM | alpeck | live.cat5.tv stream is also down
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| 7:42:54 PM | alpeck | LOL...meatball
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| 7:43:03 PM | fking | Kodi is back to norm.
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| 7:43:15 PM | Guest_007G | same here stream keeps dropping out buffer online offline
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| 7:43:23 PM | noeman5 | Jumping between browsers, both show the begining of the PHP section.
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| 7:44:07 PM | alpeck | what about live.cat5.tv....also down
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| 7:44:14 PM | ameriDroid | We have been using an XU4 as our fileserver for several years. We just moved over to a ROCKPro64 with a SATA RAID card.
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| 7:44:49 PM | ORANGEMAN | NO AUDIO AND NO VEDIO LIVE,CAT5.TV
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| 7:45:04 PM | alpeck | I guess the show must go on. I'll just keep refreshing in hopes it will come back.
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| 7:45:04 PM | ABQTKY | SashaR and RobbieF Youtube just switched me over to something about somebody named R.Kelly What does that have to do with anything computer related???
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| 7:45:17 PM | ameriDroid | I'm still getting audio and video on YouTube right now. I guess I'm lucky.
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| 7:45:22 PM | MarshMan | Roku is working
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| 7:45:34 PM | BobK54 | I'm watching live.cat5.tv fine here in Tennessee
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| 7:46:15 PM | alpeck | live.cat5.tv not working here in Windsor
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| 7:47:16 PM | Guest_007G | austin, TX twc on a fast line
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| 7:47:25 PM | noeman5 | Roku is now on the honorable mentions, the live feed in the browsers is still in the PHP section.
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| 7:48:07 PM | ABQTKY | Everything is out of synch. Now I'm watching with YouTube stuff back from many MINUTES ago. I'll watch the show in a couple days. This is very strange. Could YouTube be REplaying stuff from ten minutes ago?????
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| 7:49:04 PM | MarshMan | It does restart. I gave up on YT and switched to Roku
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| 7:49:15 PM | noeman5 | Nothing in either browser now on the Cat5 website live link.
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| 7:49:42 PM | noeman5 | using the roku
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| 7:50:01 PM | Guest_007G | all browsers "offline"?
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| 7:50:28 PM | ameriDroid | I agree with Jeff. Flexibility and ease of repair is the way to go.
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| 7:50:59 PM | MarshMan | Firmware is coming for the Pi4 for this issue
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| 7:52:04 PM | noeman5 | Guest_007G, I tried in Brave browser and Epic, nothing working in either. Guess I could try Firefox or even (ha, ha) Internet Explorer.
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| 7:55:53 PM | Skywriter64 | where are you?
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| 7:56:33 PM | noeman5 | Not working in IE, Firefox or Chrome.
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| 7:57:17 PM | Skywriter64 | Will watch you later or in a few days
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| 7:57:40 PM | TheFu | Went directly to youtube channel. Seems to be working there. live.cat5.tv wasn't.
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| 7:58:00 PM | Solbu | How far? maybe they could ahve been ellected president.
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| 7:58:10 PM | Solbu | ;-)
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| 7:58:13 PM | ABQTKY | YouTube message "Live Stream offline" Apparently it's also the message on Live.cat5.tv, I guess I'll follow Skywriter64's advice.
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| 7:58:18 PM | Solbu | RobbieF, Jeff: Some microphone had what sounded like 3 short intermittent frequency disturbances a few minutes ago.
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| 7:59:05 PM | TheFu | I'm confused. youtube channel has 15 min older stuff.
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| 7:59:08 PM | noeman5 | Can barely hear Robert Koenig
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| 8:00:12 PM | noeman5 | @RobbieF is going to have his hands full editing this episode.
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| 8:00:23 PM | ABQTKY | I'll check Slashdot tomorrow to see what happened to YouTube on Wednesday evening.
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| 8:00:45 PM | ameriDroid | I just lost my YouTube feed.
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| 8:01:28 PM | noeman5 | I just realized, I haven't seen the Discord feed on the sidebar at all tonight.
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| 8:01:53 PM | MarshMan | Hasn't been there since they have been at the desk
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| 8:02:04 PM | ABQTKY | Maybe I'll take a look at Slashdot tonight. Sergei and the other guy step down at Alphabet and the whole thing goes to pot...fast. Wow!
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| 8:02:16 PM | noeman5 | So used to looking at the screen of my laptop for it, I just noticed.
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| 8:02:35 PM | MarshMan | Doesn't freeze anymore
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| 8:02:44 PM | Solbu | Speaking fo the desk. I do miss when al 3 where on the same camera, or at least right next to each other. I miss seeing the interaction, and not you talking to each other via a camera.
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| 8:02:45 PM | MarshMan | 😛
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| 8:04:24 PM | Solbu | MarshMan: Yea, just turn off Youtube. Fixes all problems. ;-)
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| 8:04:50 PM | MarshMan | Yup.
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| 8:05:27 PM | MarshMan | without Discord scrolling you cannot really see the latency on Roku which for me has always been lengthy
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| 8:08:09 PM | noeman5 | That was the one thing I liked about Windows mobile, the apps required a lot less permissions.
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| 8:08:49 PM | Solbu | THe best thing is stay on a dumb phone – which is what old farts like me does. ;-)
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| 8:09:35 PM | MarshMan | Better yet... no phone.
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| 8:09:42 PM | MarshMan | Can't find me
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| 8:10:08 PM | Solbu | Yea, what's wrong with smoke signals!
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| 8:10:12 PM | Solbu | :-)
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| 8:11:26 PM | MarshMan | Cough, nothing cough cough
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| 8:12:07 PM | MarshMan | I grew up without any tech and managed to survive
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| 8:13:26 PM | Solbu | Hehe, me too. I still clearly remember what van delivered our first ever black and white television, back in the late 1970s.
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| 8:14:59 PM | MarshMan | They are ALL Chinese manufactured
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| 8:16:15 PM | ameriDroid | You need to get the PineTime Jeff. But not before Christmas.
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| 8:17:10 PM | MarshMan | How is Roy W Nash doing??
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| 8:19:30 PM | noeman5 | I may be dropping some money on a PineTime dev kit this week if there are any left.
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| 8:21:44 PM | noeman5 | @SashaR needs another thinger
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| 8:23:38 PM | MarshMan | Get a pfSense box and use as a firewall and create you own vlan
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| 8:25:05 PM | Solbu | Jeff: Would a Guest account on the wifi hotspot do the trick?
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| 8:25:23 PM | Ronnicat | @MarshMan 👍
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| 8:31:25 PM | Solbu | Wow. The ethernet plug is a quarter of the size.
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| 8:31:34 PM | Ronnicat | So tiny
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| 8:31:48 PM | MarshMan | $25
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| 8:31:59 PM | noeman5 | About the size of a Post-it note
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| 8:35:01 PM | MarshMan | https://www.amazon.com/MikroTik-RBD52G-5HacD2HnD-TC-Dual-Concurrent-Ethernet-International/dp/B07LGCB3HG/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=micro+tik&qid=1575509650&s=electronics&sr=1-11
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| 8:35:05 PM | noeman5 | About 4 minute lag between Jeff saying goodnight on Discord and seeing him typing it onscreen. lol. Have a good night All!
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| 8:35:15 PM | Solbu | 17 years ago someone gave me a 32 port rack switch. It has two 100Mbit ports, and the rest was 10 Mbit. ;-)
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| 8:35:38 PM | noeman5 | Slow, but I bet it still works.
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| 8:36:07 PM | noeman5 | So long all, time for dinner.
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| 8:36:08 PM | Solbu | yea. I threw it away 5 years ago.
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| 8:36:26 PM | MarshMan | Later
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| 8:45:56 PM | RobbieF | Hope ya'll had fun 🙂
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| 8:45:59 PM | RobbieF | Thanks for being here
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| 8:46:07 PM | RobbieF | Sorry that YouTube sucks 😛
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| 8:46:25 PM | RobbieF | I'll see about adding a HLS VLC feed for next week, if possible - as a failsafe.
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| 8:59:15 PM | Solbu | It was nice.
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| 8:59:27 PM | Solbu | Even had some congestion in the series of tubes. ;-)
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