6:58:59 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream is working.
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6:59:43 PM | ABQTKY | RobbieF So, ah, YouTube is streaming at 480p tonight?? Not 720p?? Just checking.
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7:00:07 PM | Solbu | ABQTKY: Kodi is in 720p.
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7:00:16 PM | Solbu | So I guess youtube also supports that.
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7:01:10 PM | Solbu | https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/862/SadKeanu.jpg
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7:01:30 PM | ABQTKY | Solbu - YT is usually in 720p, but not tonight...yet. Just wondering. Maybe it will be more stable at the lower res???
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7:01:32 PM | SweSG | Hi!
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7:01:43 PM | WildBill | SashaR: Did you try to do a Powerwash on your laptop
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7:02:53 PM | Solbu | We are Go for launch
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7:03:01 PM | noeman5 | Because the Dark Side has cookies
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7:03:26 PM | SweSG | 480P?
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7:04:11 PM | ABQTKY | SweSG Solbu YouTube just dropped me to 360p. 8-(
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7:04:27 PM | SweSG | :/
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7:05:51 PM | ABQTKY | Wow, Robbie looks ten years younger at 360, but I just (temporarily) set it back to 720p.
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7:06:16 PM | Solbu | Lift off.
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7:06:23 PM | ABQTKY | And no, I ain't gettin' no steenkeen buffering out here in the desert.
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7:08:08 PM | SweSG | Looks bad!
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7:09:41 PM | SweSG | 10GbE
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7:10:20 PM | TheFu | Early adopters overpay.
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7:11:09 PM | noeman5 | Go with fiber?
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7:11:28 PM | TheFu | In 3 yrs, everything will be cheaper for the same performance/throughput. Especially on the SBC stuff.
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7:12:05 PM | MarshMan | By then newer stuff will be out and the question starts again
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7:12:26 PM | TheFu | I don't see an ODroid transcoding 4K video into 480p in real-time.
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7:12:56 PM | noeman5 | Whenever I buy components, phones, tablets, whatever, I buy one or two steps below the most current version. Saves me a ton of money and I'm not too far down in speed or capability.
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7:13:19 PM | TheFu | No budget? Infiniband!
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7:13:33 PM | MarshMan | https://www.amazon.com/HP-InfiniBand-544FLR-QSFP-Adapter-649282-B21/dp/B007LFVJNO/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=infiniband&qid=1576109590&sr=8-1
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7:14:02 PM | SweSG | I have this one: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in
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7:14:05 PM | TheFu | I've had infiniband connected storage for about a decade.
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7:14:16 PM | noeman5 | Tim "The Toolman" Taylor says, more speed!
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7:14:58 PM | MarshMan | grunt grunt grunt
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7:15:03 PM | TheFu | Too bad the HDDs are all slow. ;(
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7:15:38 PM | MarshMan | Interface-fast, Hardware-slow
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7:15:48 PM | MarshMan | Weakest link
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7:16:08 PM | TheFu | Just had to restart the stream. Got stuck.
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7:16:11 PM | ABQTKY | Uh, oh. Stream just froze...for ten seconds. Okay again.
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7:16:18 PM | noeman5 | And BAM! we lost YouTube.
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7:16:26 PM | Solbu | You /Are/ the weakest link. Goodbye.
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7:16:27 PM | TheFu | and again.
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7:16:38 PM | noeman5 | Here we go again
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7:16:41 PM | Solbu | Kodi stream just halted.
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7:16:50 PM | SashaR | Ugh
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7:16:55 PM | TheFu | offline.
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7:17:06 PM | MarshMan | Roku sttuters
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7:17:14 PM | TheFu | I'm using that, Meatball/
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7:17:19 PM | noeman5 | Watching from the Cat5 stream, it died
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7:17:20 PM | BobK54 | live.cat5.tv is offline too
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7:17:35 PM | noeman5 | Sasha has two fingers in the air
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7:17:40 PM | TheFu | "Stay tuned" - live in 17 minutes.
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7:18:07 PM | Solbu | «… after being dead for a minute»
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7:18:09 PM | Solbu | :-)
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7:18:18 PM | ABQTKY | Back now.
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7:18:22 PM | BobK54 | all of the electrons are frozen
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7:18:24 PM | noeman5 | A reload of the website says you are live in 17 minutes
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7:18:28 PM | TheFu | MM - does that infiniband PCI card work in an Odroid?
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7:18:31 PM | SashaR | I know Robbie would notice if it were on this end by where he is sitting
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7:18:50 PM | SashaR | So I suspect its youtube :/
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7:20:01 PM | noeman5 | And we're back!
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7:20:19 PM | noeman5 | If you come back
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7:20:21 PM | MarshMan | TheFu- No, I was just thinking along the same lines that you were
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7:20:36 PM | TheFu | ;)
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7:21:07 PM | Solbu | Low on pressing Go.. hehehe
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7:22:26 PM | MarshMan | Follows politics - Explains a LOT
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7:22:54 PM | Solbu | Stream have been stable for 3 minutes.
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7:22:56 PM | TheFu | ... watching the pre-show.
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7:23:02 PM | Solbu | Hopefully is't stable for the rest of the show.
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7:23:32 PM | Solbu | Is there a lik to the spy camera?
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7:23:37 PM | Solbu | *links
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7:25:04 PM | MarshMan | https://tenor.com/view/im-watching-stalking-lurking-watching-gif-7914122
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7:26:17 PM | MarshMan | No
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7:27:24 PM | noeman5 | @Jeff "Meatball" Weston you can read multiple book formats on the kindle if you load the Calibre app.
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7:28:28 PM | noeman5 | Oh, my mistake, I use a Kindle. But it is a kindle fire. and yes, I can read epubs on it, but uploading, I don't know.
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7:29:24 PM | ABQTKY | Wait a second - YouTube is REPLAYING stuff from half an hour ago INSTEAD of playing current stuff??? What planet are we on tonight??????
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7:29:41 PM | TheFu | Way-back machine, planet.
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7:30:05 PM | noeman5 | or the eLibrary app. But again I don't know about upload, I've only downloaded.
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7:30:41 PM | TheFu | I use Calibre. To add books, there is a thick client. On Linux, is it X11 client app.
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7:30:58 PM | BobK54 | I had to refresh twice to get out of the wayback machine thing. same thing...video was from earlier tonight
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7:30:59 PM | ABQTKY | TheFu Well, half an hour isn't quite 'WAY BACK' but it's getting close.
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7:31:12 PM | TheFu | It works well with aldiko reader on a Fire 8 Tablet.
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7:31:25 PM | MarshMan | There is an app called Aldiko which takes ePubs
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7:31:40 PM | MarshMan | We are in sync tonight TheFu
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7:31:44 PM | TheFu | ;)
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7:31:49 PM | TheFu | All day my friend.
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7:32:13 PM | MarshMan | Yes, since 8AM
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7:32:23 PM | noeman5 | And no Discord on the kindle
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7:32:44 PM | TheFu | IRC works on every platform. ;)
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7:33:22 PM | ABQTKY | Nope I just tried to refresh...FOUR times...still half an hour back. I've been watching Robbie with his white balance target several times.
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7:34:35 PM | SashaR | We just watched ourselves on YouTube... With no delay. So I'm not sure what is happening!!
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7:35:07 PM | noeman5 | I'm not having any troubles anymore. It's been fine since after the break
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7:35:15 PM | ABQTKY | Of course we all come here for the witty banter between Jeff, Sasha an Robbie. BTW, YouTube won't drop farther than 144p. After that it just dies on my end.
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7:36:03 PM | Solbu | Jeff: Question: are there apps one cannot remove from the device?
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7:36:04 PM | SashaR | I love your patience through the hiccups
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7:37:52 PM | noeman5 | cruft=bloatware
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7:42:00 PM | TheFu | I've had a Fire 8 tablet for a few years. First boot, it seemed like an amazon advertising machine.
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7:43:29 PM | TheFu | Then I looked up how to "fix" that, change some settings. Through adb (the android debugger), removal of some apps, disabling some others, and there is a root method available, at least for my gen7 tablet.
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7:44:29 PM | TheFu | Mainly, I use it to connect into the public library ebooks and audiobooks, but with f-droid, I've loaded some F/LOSS programs.
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7:45:44 PM | BobK54 | thanks, I wanted to know the weather here!
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7:45:47 PM | TheFu | They did load alexa last year sometime. Disable the listening and use a long-press on the "circle" to have alexa listen.
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7:46:31 PM | TheFu | About every 6 months, they force an OS update. It doesn't ever happen conveniently.
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7:46:56 PM | TheFu | Last update took about 30 min ... "optimizing" after the reboot.
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7:47:00 PM | ABQTKY | Ooh, now YouTube jumped ahead to only 26 minutes ago. Now I'm missing around fifteen minutes of the show. 8-p
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7:47:39 PM | TheFu | Looks like Robbie has the temperature set for US.
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7:49:04 PM | TheFu | Worth it for the money? YES! To me as well, Robbie. This is a fairly low-cost device. The camera(s) aren't great, but they are good enough. The resolution isn't great, but good enough. The battery life isn't great, but good enough.
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7:50:16 PM | TheFu | If mine fire 8 fails, I might make it a week before I missed it. I've seen them for US$20 or $50.
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7:50:39 PM | Solbu | Heh, here is a good sad Keanu photo: https://geeksoncoffee.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Sad-Keanu-memes-29.jpg
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7:50:42 PM | TheFu | With VLC or BubbleUPnP, it accesses a Plex Server nicely.
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7:51:55 PM | SashaR | So sad, that nice man.
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7:52:05 PM | Solbu | :-)
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7:56:29 PM | TheFu | Jeff, do safe companies provide the police with master keys to access a safe?
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7:57:35 PM | noeman5 | Party!
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7:58:39 PM | TheFu | Sasha, you live in a relatively nice place and don't have anything to hide. What if you lived under a totalitarian govt, where being gay is illegal?
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7:58:58 PM | alpeck | maybe what they need is a warrant to disable the encryption for persons of interest without the person of interest knowing.
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7:59:14 PM | noeman5 | Or making fun of the politicians could land you in prison?
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7:59:24 PM | TheFu | These places exist. Humans are thrown off tall buildings for being different.
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7:59:30 PM | Solbu | jut because I'm not doing anything wrong, that doesn't mean I want other people to see or hear it. You lock the door to the toilet, that de not mean you are doing something wrong. You just don't want other people to see it.
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7:59:52 PM | SweSG | Everything would be encrypted!
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8:00:06 PM | noeman5 | All nude?
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8:00:13 PM | TheFu | Just because I'm not doing anything wrong, doesn't mean I want my neighbors, police, govt, to know about it.
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8:00:14 PM | SweSG | :P
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8:00:18 PM | Solbu | SweSG: Skandinavisk er jo en brukbar krypteringsnøkkel. ;-)
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8:00:49 PM | TheFu | I think that my freedom is more important than my security.
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8:00:49 PM | TheFu | I prefer to live in a free but insecure world than in a perfectly safe but not free world.
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8:01:22 PM | Solbu | TheFu: Exactly.
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8:03:03 PM | noeman5 | Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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8:03:26 PM | noeman5 | Thus, encryption for your own good.
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8:03:36 PM | ABQTKY | Nowman5 Sounds more like Jefferson to me.
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8:03:57 PM | ABQTKY | One of those guys!
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8:04:05 PM | MarshMan | Benjamin Franklin also said: Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!
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8:04:15 PM | noeman5 | I love that quote
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8:04:28 PM | MarshMan | I have it on my beer glass
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8:05:06 PM | Solbu | Jeff, RobbieF: The closeup of Sasha during the news makes it look like Sahsa are heavily leaning forward to the camera in order to read the text.
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8:05:55 PM | SashaR | I could perhaps lean back?
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8:06:05 PM | MarshMan | Mrs M says TOO CLOSE!
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8:06:28 PM | ABQTKY | Hey, everybody stop picking on Sasha.
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8:06:49 PM | MarshMan | I am picking on the framing
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8:06:53 PM | SashaR | Also... I do agree that some privacy is indeed necessary!
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8:07:00 PM | Solbu | Jeff: I noticed whe is leaning forward, but the close framing makes it look like she's leaning more than I think she is.,
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8:07:03 PM | noeman5 | Leaning forward erases the 10 years the low resolution takes off
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8:07:12 PM | SashaR | I too, close the door to the loo!!!
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8:07:13 PM | MarshMan | Any closer and we could pick her nose
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8:07:22 PM | Solbu | MarshMan: Hehehe
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8:07:47 PM | noeman5 | You can pick your friends and pick your nose, but you can't pick your friends nose.
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8:08:00 PM | MarshMan | Speak for yourself!
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8:08:05 PM | MarshMan | Ewwwwwww
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8:08:30 PM | SashaR | Hahaha
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8:08:35 PM | Solbu | Heh.
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8:08:58 PM | SashaR | Is there anything I could be doing differently?
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8:09:22 PM | Solbu | SashaR: Maybe just don't lean forward.
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8:09:38 PM | MarshMan | @SashaR you do what you need to do to read that itty bitty screen
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8:11:57 PM | noeman5 | I've just started setting up a "Keepass" db. Switching everything over takes time.
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8:13:51 PM | TheFu | Sasha needs a FIDOv2 U2F token?
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8:14:19 PM | noeman5 | Looking at a Yubikey for my laptop
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8:16:00 PM | noeman5 | @SashaR 's infamous "thinger"
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8:16:22 PM | MarshMan | You MUST remember ONE password at least
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8:16:35 PM | TheFu | Noeman5 - maybe check out KeePassXC ... with a .kdbx compatible file?
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8:16:51 PM | noeman5 | Thanks Fu, I'll take a look
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8:18:30 PM | noeman5 | I just started using Keepass2, so I haven't gotten too far in it to be too much trouble to change
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8:19:21 PM | G_Dog1985_ | Robbief yubikey for the win
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8:19:33 PM | G_Dog1985_ | @SashaR ^^
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8:19:45 PM | TheFu | Keepass2 .... depends on the platforms involved. I think it is a .NET app and I won't use Mono on Linux.
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8:20:32 PM | TheFu | Personal issue, my dislike of mono.
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8:22:12 PM | TheFu | Sasha, there's no replacement for length and complexity. Sometimes, not knowing your loginname is also useful.
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8:22:33 PM | noeman5 | Didn't think about cross-platform capability. So KeepassXC makes more sense, then I can use it on my Linux systems, and maybe my PinePhone when it arrives.
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8:23:22 PM | TheFu | Keepass2 probably uses the same encrypted file format that keepassxc uses. These work with lots of different programs on lots of platforms.
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8:24:49 PM | noeman5 | My bank almost does TOO good a job at that. When I moved from Arizona to Oregon, I told them I was moving, but while moving, my debit card was frozen because of too many uses on the road in between homes.
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8:25:27 PM | MarshMan | @Jeff "Meatball" Weston Many sites are smart enough to know if you are logging in from a different location i.e. using a VPN server in a different country
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8:25:38 PM | MarshMan | They will question it
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8:25:59 PM | TheFu | Check for apps on all platforms, then pick the password manager for your primary platform that uses a compatible file.
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8:26:26 PM | TheFu | Use nextcloud or seafile or rsync to replicate the DB file to each platform.
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8:27:28 PM | noeman5 | There was a Sci-Fi program abut Space Marines that used LIDAR to sense enemy spacecraft.
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8:27:47 PM | TheFu | Space Above and Beyond.
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8:27:51 PM | SadSack963 | I've never used a Password Manager. What happens when a site alters it's logging in procedure, or alters the login web address?
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8:28:28 PM | noeman5 | Wow, Fu, that's it!
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8:28:35 PM | TheFu | I dont allow any password manager to automatically enter credentials, ever.
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8:28:46 PM | TheFu | noeman5 - I have the DVDs. ;)
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8:29:03 PM | SadSack963 | 🙂
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8:29:07 PM | TheFu | A flawed show, but ... entertaining.
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8:30:10 PM | noeman5 | Everything is getting smaller, except cellphones
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8:32:53 PM | TheFu | https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/a37ChWrw0tYhRAimn5u1lplzPZU=/0x4:350x237/1520x1013/filters:focal(0x4:350x237):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/47632113/zoolander-tiny-phone.0.0.jpg
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8:33:09 PM | noeman5 | Holodeck or Orville simulators
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8:36:45 PM | noeman5 | Cat5x360 = Cat1800
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8:37:38 PM | ABQTKY | RobbieF - register that!! Cat1800!!!
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8:39:59 PM | noeman5 | And your basement floods and wipes out your entire life.
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8:40:44 PM | SweSG | I have 3 of these as NAS: https://i.imgur.com/RMSUIAr.jpg
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8:40:47 PM | TheFu | Jeff, there are disk arrays with handles. But cooling is a huge issue.
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8:41:31 PM | noeman5 | We can hear @SashaR through your mike @RobbieF
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8:41:58 PM | ABQTKY | Now we're at 144p - but...so what??!!
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8:42:20 PM | TheFu | Pick the size you need: https://addonics.com/category/storage_tower.php
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8:42:27 PM | noeman5 | Bye y'all.
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8:43:55 PM | TheFu | One extra nice thing about a Fire tablet ... shipping updates as notifications for stuff purchased.
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8:44:20 PM | TheFu | I do wish they had a GPS, however.
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9:03:44 PM | RobbieF | 🙂
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