| 6:58:02 PM | noeman5 | No Jeff today?
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| 6:58:08 PM | MarshMan | No
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| 6:58:38 PM | LockwoodIII | Evening all
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| 6:58:44 PM | SweSG | Hi noeman5
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| 6:59:10 PM | MarshMan | French fries
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| 6:59:32 PM | noeman5 | Guten Tag!
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| 6:59:45 PM | LockwoodIII | In English please
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| 7:00:31 PM | LockwoodIII | Thats a relief
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| 7:00:36 PM | noeman5 | I'd like an order of order.
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| 7:00:37 PM | TheCanadianHacker | I know bonjour, and garcon. Literally everything I know
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| 7:00:46 PM | MarshMan | Watching tonight on my iPad and on Discord on my phone
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| 7:00:52 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Also I know how to say I am a cat. So my French is useless
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| 7:01:38 PM | LockwoodIII | Im watching on my Windows tablet (now running Android) and typing on my phone
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| 7:01:42 PM | MarshMan | Taco, burrito
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| 7:02:07 PM | noeman5 | I used to be nearly fluent in German, but I've forgotten a lot. I've been studying Japanese for a while. I understand more Spanish than I can speak.
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| 7:02:13 PM | MarshMan | Go @LockwoodIII
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| 7:02:18 PM | Solbu | We are Go for launch.
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| 7:02:36 PM | LockwoodIII | Anything to get away from Windows
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| 7:03:28 PM | noeman5 | Just killed Windows 7 on my old laptop, installing 32 bit Kali Linux. (10 year old laptop.)
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| 7:03:54 PM | MarshMan | I needed this show tonight and it won't be shown?
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| 7:04:02 PM | LockwoodIII | @noeman5 Nice but Kali seems an odd choice for desktop Linux
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| 7:04:34 PM | MarshMan | My mistake
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| 7:04:47 PM | SashaR | we wouldn't just leave you!
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| 7:04:48 PM | MarshMan | Gotcha gotcha gotcha
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| 7:04:51 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Don't worry about it :)
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| 7:05:06 PM | MarshMan | It pertains to me indirectly
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| 7:05:41 PM | LockwoodIII | If there's a hacker in the chatroom are all of our devices in trouble
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| 7:06:00 PM | MarshMan | How do you keep an idiot in suspense?
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| 7:06:14 PM | MarshMan | Tell you at the end of the show
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| 7:06:15 PM | noeman5 | @LockwoodIII , I've played with it before, using it for some light hacking and program development.
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| 7:07:00 PM | LockwoodIII | @noeman5 I keep meaning to try it but never seem to get round to it
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| 7:07:03 PM | Solbu | Jeff was afraid to be hacked…
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| 7:07:07 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Trying to listen to two conversations be like
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| 7:07:16 PM | noeman5 | There are two types of people - - those that can extrapolate from incomplete data..
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| 7:07:23 PM | LockwoodIII | @Solbu#0000 Lol
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| 7:07:33 PM | RobbieF | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495592877733183489/682378250793517061/IMG_20200224_190412.jpg
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| 7:08:42 PM | SweSG | The sound is good here!
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| 7:09:19 PM | MarshMan | Eh?
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| 7:09:21 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Hey there!
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| 7:09:35 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Wait why'd I say that? Lol
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| 7:10:27 PM | MarshMan | Hi there
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| 7:10:28 PM | LockwoodIII | @RobbieF That coz you get the big bucks! (Editor)
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| 7:11:17 PM | MarshMan | Send Jeff home for the news
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| 7:11:20 PM | Solbu | What? News time already? I must have fallen asleep.
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| 7:11:23 PM | Solbu | ;-)
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| 7:13:32 PM | LockwoodIII | Its the Royal "we"
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| 7:13:49 PM | MarshMan | We do @SashaR
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| 7:14:00 PM | MarshMan | Only watch for you
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| 7:14:26 PM | MarshMan | Slight Sasha bias
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| 7:17:32 PM | MarshMan | This is more than an honorable mention!
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| 7:17:48 PM | LockwoodIII | Must be healthy in space!
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| 7:18:00 PM | SashaR | 101 is a great age!
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| 7:18:08 PM | LockwoodIII | It sure is
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| 7:21:38 PM | TheCanadianHacker | That's crazy? More of a swarm or mesh than a main centralized point
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| 7:21:48 PM | TheCanadianHacker | So many implications
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| 7:22:54 PM | baldricthebrave | Hi guys...
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| 7:23:08 PM | LockwoodIII | @baldricthebrave Evening
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| 7:23:53 PM | SweSG | baldricthebrave: Hi!
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| 7:25:23 PM | TheFu | What's the mitigation for the wifi devices that cannot be patched?
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| 7:26:12 PM | baldricthebrave | @RobbieF i did the Windows 10 update, all seems fine. I must be one of the lucky ones!!!
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| 7:29:05 PM | MarshMan | Paper wallet. He had no carbon paper so no backup.
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| 7:29:57 PM | SweSG | baldricthebrave: I have blocked Windows update: https://i.imgur.com/XRjHRnS.png
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| 7:30:21 PM | Solbu | My crypto keys are on 4 different systems.
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| 7:30:52 PM | TheFu | Or buy 5 of them.
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| 7:30:57 PM | LockwoodIII | @SweSG#0000 I blocked Windows update by installing Linux :)
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| 7:30:58 PM | baldricthebrave | Ooh thats cool.
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| 7:31:33 PM | SweSG | LockwoodIII: Hehe
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| 7:32:34 PM | TheCanadianHacker | I always use a paper wallet, atleast until a certain company locked me out of my own account
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| 7:32:35 PM | SweSG | I have around 10 computers. Only 1 running Windows. Everyone else is on Linux.
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| 7:32:56 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Paper everything.
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| 7:33:12 PM | Solbu | Paper can be damaged by just being stored incorrectly.
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| 7:33:13 PM | LockwoodIII | @SweSG#0000 You're almost sorted then
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| 7:33:21 PM | SweSG | Yep!
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| 7:33:42 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Of course, but if you make copies in Multiple locations, and treat it, you'll be golden
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| 7:35:57 PM | SweSG | Firefox
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| 7:36:38 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Firefox for life.
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| 7:36:50 PM | SweSG | Hehe
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| 7:37:33 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Literally only used chrome for a few months, until it's slowed my computer to a crawl
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| 7:37:39 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Now Firefox and duckduckgo
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| 7:37:55 PM | TheFu | I'm w/ Robbie on the DNS, but there are lots of grandmas who won't set that up and need to protection.
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| 7:38:03 PM | MarshMan | Firefox will join Edge in the Trash Bin
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| 7:38:20 PM | SweSG | The thing is that there is no one better than Firefox today.
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| 7:38:24 PM | TheFu | There is an opt out in the FF settings.
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| 7:38:36 PM | LockwoodIII | Apprently Edge is good now - according to Microsoft
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| 7:38:49 PM | MarshMan | No software should make decisions FOR me
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| 7:38:58 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Adding chromium to something doesn't make it better
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| 7:39:10 PM | TheFu | MM - you are so innocent. ;)
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| 7:39:13 PM | TheCanadianHacker | I don't know what the hell they are doing
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| 7:39:33 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Just my opinion :)
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| 7:39:35 PM | MarshMan | I like being in control Fu
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| 7:40:00 PM | TheFu | But control is an illusion.
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| 7:40:03 PM | Solbu | «I see your Pi-hole, and raise you encrypted DNS»
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| 7:40:15 PM | MarshMan | You mean delusion
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| 7:40:32 PM | TheFu | That too. I suffer from both myself.
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| 7:40:39 PM | MarshMan | Ditto
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| 7:41:02 PM | MarshMan | I fight blatant control
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| 7:41:24 PM | MarshMan | I tend to use the browser that works
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| 7:41:25 PM | TheFu | Robbie, what HTTPS-over-DNS should we be using on Linux?
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| 7:41:44 PM | MarshMan | Changes daily
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| 7:42:35 PM | MarshMan | Like a couple weeks ago Clludflare DNA was down and we had no live feed
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| 7:42:46 PM | TheFu | https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/configuring-networks-disable-dns-over-https
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| 7:43:00 PM | Solbu | RobbieF, SashaR: Firefox will disable encrypted DNS if this domain is blokced in bind: use-application-dns.net
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| 7:43:02 PM | Solbu | https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/canary-domain-use-application-dnsnet
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| 7:43:18 PM | SweSG | https://i.imgur.com/cq2k6Z1.png
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| 7:43:20 PM | SweSG | https://i.imgur.com/cS5T5Do.png
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| 7:44:35 PM | MarshMan | So Homer Simpson has been promoting DNA over HTTPS - DoH?
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| 7:45:52 PM | SweSG | Hehe
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| 7:45:59 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Lol
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| 7:46:52 PM | MarshMan | We never left
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| 7:46:57 PM | baldricthebrave | Fantastic...
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| 7:47:13 PM | MarshMan | Lol
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| 7:47:16 PM | MarshMan | Lol
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| 7:47:18 PM | MarshMan | Lol
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| 7:47:22 PM | Solbu | «I'm Sasha Rickman, and you're not doing anything»
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| 7:47:58 PM | TheFu | I'm here for Robbie.
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| 7:48:10 PM | MarshMan | I'm Sasha Rickman and you're not
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| 7:48:17 PM | Solbu | HEhe.
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| 7:49:25 PM | MarshMan | My cat is smart enough to feed itself
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| 7:49:44 PM | Solbu | MarshMan: If I ever can afford to visit Canada and cat5 and is invited to join the show, I plan to do something like that, sayingh «and I'm not» after Robbie and the crew just introducing themselves. :-)
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| 7:50:28 PM | MarshMan | When I was there I did say that I was not Jeff.
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| 7:52:12 PM | MarshMan | Autonomous vehicles still expect your hands to be on the wheel. Flashes the dashboard if it thinks you let go.
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| 7:52:39 PM | Solbu | MarshMan: Another idea I have is to do my introduction in norwegian. ;-)
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| 7:52:59 PM | MarshMan | There you go Solbu
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| 7:53:15 PM | Solbu | … and then state that I use strong encryption.
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| 7:53:17 PM | Solbu | :-)
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| 7:53:18 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Oh yeah I heard about this one :) copyright is so silly
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| 7:53:25 PM | baldricthebrave | Peppa pig?
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| 7:53:32 PM | TheCanadianHacker | To a certain extent I mean
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| 7:53:54 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Of course it's important, just how it can be exploited like this is stupid
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| 7:54:22 PM | MarshMan | How do you prove "subconsciously"?
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| 7:55:14 PM | Solbu | MarshMan: Same way you prove threats: «I feel exploited, therefore you have exploited me»
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| 7:55:30 PM | Solbu | :-)
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| 7:55:45 PM | MarshMan | Ohhhh, paranoia
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| 7:55:56 PM | Solbu | The datasets is huge, 600 Gigs
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| 7:56:39 PM | TheFu | How many existing songs did they violate copyright doing this?
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| 7:56:48 PM | LockwoodIII | @Solbu#0000 Isn't that just the same as an evening of streaming in 4k
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| 7:57:24 PM | Solbu | I don't consume 4k, so I dont know.
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| 7:57:42 PM | Solbu | Besides, streaming is not storing.
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| 7:57:52 PM | LockwoodIII | That is true
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| 7:57:56 PM | TheFu | TP is dead. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/tom-pettys-cause-of-death-accidental-overdose-202789/
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| 7:58:48 PM | LockwoodIII | Very good, thanks
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| 7:59:04 PM | SweSG | Yep!
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| 7:59:45 PM | noeman5 | John Wayne voice: "I was born ready"
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| 7:59:52 PM | MarshMan | Gn @SashaR
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| 7:59:56 PM | baldricthebrave | So thats where all of the UK storms have been coming from?
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| 8:00:06 PM | SashaR | Good night my friends :):)
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| 8:00:31 PM | LockwoodIII | Its supposed to snow here in the UK tomorrow
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| 8:00:46 PM | MarshMan | So if I get busy at work I can blame the @TheCanadianHacker ?
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| 8:01:06 PM | baldricthebrave | Im hoping Cambridgeshire will escape the snow.
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| 8:02:24 PM | RobbieF | Way to go @TheCanadianHacker !!!
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| 8:02:29 PM | RobbieF | No going back now... 🙂
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| 8:02:37 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Haha
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| 8:02:52 PM | SweSG | White hacker or black? Gray??
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| 8:02:58 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: A resident in a friends apartment block did the same thing to all residents 18 years ago. The entire apartment block was behind a single NAT-ed SDSL line, and all had a 10.x.x.x IP. He printed a message explaning that they needed to disable file and printer sharing on the network. A PDF also apeared with the same content, on the desktop.
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| 8:03:55 PM | Solbu | It just so happened that he did that when I was going to help my friend with something, and just as I sat down in the chair at the computer, the printer started. :-)
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| 8:04:34 PM | TheFu | A "friend" dropped a file on all the desktops for the local cable ISP customers on the same subnet. That got the ISP to start blocking ports 137-139, 445.
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| 8:05:17 PM | TheCanadianHacker | White hacker over here :)
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| 8:05:34 PM | TheFu | R U a member of a DC group?
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| 8:05:36 PM | Solbu | TheFu: 20 years ago, me and a fiend experimented with filesharing on the internet using the samba protocol.
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| 8:05:40 PM | TheCanadianHacker | White hat*
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| 8:05:59 PM | TheCanadianHacker | DC?
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| 8:06:02 PM | Solbu | Or maybe it was 19 years ago.
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| 8:06:04 PM | TheFu | DefCon.
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| 8:06:16 PM | RobbieF | Cool solbu
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| 8:06:21 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Unfortunately not, always wanted to be though
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| 8:06:26 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Nothing local to me
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| 8:06:37 PM | TheFu | Most cities have at least 1 DC group. Mine has 3, but they are all related.
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| 8:06:49 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Not in mine
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| 8:07:06 PM | Solbu | That friend started to nag me to install a firewall after discovering Steve Gibson's Shields Up, after stumbleing upon the Security Now podcast.
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| 8:07:36 PM | Solbu | I remember resisting for several months. I didn't have something worth hacking for… hehe
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| 8:07:48 PM | TheFu | https://defcongroups.org/ for anyone interested in computer/network security.
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| 8:08:01 PM | Solbu | but when I finally heard that podcast he mentioned, I starter using ZoneAlarm.
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| 8:08:09 PM | SweSG | UPnP off!
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| 8:08:09 PM | Solbu | *started
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| 8:08:36 PM | Solbu | SweSG: UPnP is dangerous, and should never be on by default.
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| 8:08:40 PM | LockwoodIII | ZoneAlarm - there's a blast from the past!
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| 8:08:48 PM | TheFu | Routers don't just handle IP. There are other protocols.
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| 8:09:11 PM | SweSG | Solbu: Yep!
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| 8:09:32 PM | Solbu | Did the stream stop?
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| 8:09:45 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Uh oh
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| 8:09:49 PM | LockwoodIII | Looks like
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| 8:09:50 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Stopped for me
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| 8:09:51 PM | TheFu | Stuttering here.
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| 8:09:54 PM | SweSG | Yep!
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| 8:09:55 PM | RobbieF | Not here!
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| 8:09:56 PM | LockwoodIII | Its been hacked!
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| 8:09:58 PM | TheFu | badly.
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| 8:10:01 PM | RobbieF | Russians?!
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| 8:10:10 PM | TheFu | Americans!
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| 8:10:27 PM | RobbieF | We are still sending a strong 720p signal!
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| 8:10:37 PM | LockwoodIII | Its back now
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| 8:10:44 PM | Solbu | Yea, just came back.
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| 8:10:48 PM | RobbieF | phew!
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| 8:11:07 PM | RobbieF | on demand will be flawless
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| 8:11:37 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Hehe, if the on-demand version is buffering, do we get our money back? ;-)
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| 8:12:11 PM | RobbieF | 🙂
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| 8:12:34 PM | RobbieF | You can deposit $40 and I'll give you a new file and $3 off.
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| 8:13:07 PM | SweSG | Hehe
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| 8:13:26 PM | Solbu | :-)
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| 8:13:30 PM | TheFu | In 2020, California law doesn't allow network devices to have default passwords. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-45757528
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| 8:13:33 PM | Solbu | LockwoodIII: I used ZoneAlarm as firewall exclusively, up until I stopped using Windows january 28, 2008.
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| 8:14:45 PM | LockwoodIII | @Solbu#0000 Yep it was very good but the pop ups could be a bit annoying
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| 8:14:49 PM | RobbieF | we covered that story at the time @TheFu
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| 8:15:24 PM | SweSG | The best free firewall today is simplewall. Windows!
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| 8:15:41 PM | SweSG | https://www.henrypp.org/product/simplewall
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| 8:16:09 PM | Solbu | LockwoodIII: I ended up disableing most of the popups. But i payed close attention to the log.
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| 8:16:13 PM | RobbieF | Nod to Stranger Things ❤️
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| 8:16:38 PM | LockwoodIII | Hacking on Pop OS - well I never
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| 8:16:46 PM | RobbieF | Bring it on!
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| 8:17:20 PM | RobbieF | Awww, no commercials for you!
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| 8:17:36 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Lol I usually use arch, just had to get some footage. I would instead have also connected to a server, but what can you do
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| 8:17:40 PM | TheCanadianHacker | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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| 8:18:14 PM | RobbieF | @TheCanadianHacker Arch? So you're into self fladulation?
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| 8:18:15 PM | TheFu | live.cat5.tv down?
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| 8:18:17 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: One thing you should have done in the on demand version, have one of the cat5 printers start to print something, pretending it caught you off guard.
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| 8:18:32 PM | Solbu | … while you're on camera,
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| 8:18:34 PM | Solbu | :-)
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| 8:18:38 PM | RobbieF | 😛
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| 8:18:39 PM | LockwoodIII | I gave up on Arch after about 6 months as i got fed up of fixing things that broke in updates
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| 8:18:55 PM | TheFu | ah - back now.
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| 8:19:17 PM | LockwoodIII | And its gone again
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| 8:19:32 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Uh oh that's not too good
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| 8:19:37 PM | TheCanadianHacker | But that's life ;)
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| 8:19:54 PM | RobbieF | @LockwoodIII and all, if live is giving you grief, I will have the on-demand up over the weekend. Make sure you follow https://twitter.com/Category5TV
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| 8:20:14 PM | LockwoodIII | Dare i suggest that Arch is a bit like Windows 10 - things break
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| 8:20:28 PM | RobbieF | We (Studio D) are under a heavy winter storm, which could affect the feed. But our local recordings are flawless.
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| 8:20:29 PM | Solbu | I know what's behind the stream problem. Someone doesn't want this information going publick, so they hack the cat5 stream…
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| 8:20:53 PM | LockwoodIII | @RobbieF Thank you. Its back again now
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| 8:21:14 PM | orangeman | contiu buffing on video
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| 8:21:41 PM | TheFu | Was shodan used?
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| 8:22:19 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Is there a page or PDF somewhere were we can read what he sending to the printers?
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| 8:22:20 PM | TheCanadianHacker | For a part of it, everything else was crawled by me
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| 8:22:27 PM | TheCanadianHacker | I can add it
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| 8:22:39 PM | RobbieF | @TheCanadianHacker PM me the file and I will upload it.
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| 8:22:52 PM | RobbieF | in the meantime....
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| 8:23:03 PM | TheFu | Any IPv6 crawling?
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| 8:23:57 PM | RobbieF | https://twitter.com/MLE_Online/status/1217575045469392896
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| 8:25:10 PM | TheCanadianHacker | No ipv6 crawling, at the minute I am focused on ipv4 (the majority)
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| 8:25:35 PM | MarshMan | Any idea which brands of printers are getting hacked?
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| 8:26:00 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Any Brand that was open to those ports, mostly brother, HP, and commercial brands
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| 8:26:43 PM | TheFu | But ... technically, this is still illegal. Don't get caught.
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| 8:26:52 PM | RobbieF | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/495592877733183489/682398213122424891/TheCanadianHacker.jpg
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| 8:27:09 PM | RobbieF | Hence our protecting him with obfuscation TheFu.
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| 8:27:30 PM | RobbieF | @TheCanadianHacker what about Kiocera and Xerox?
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| 8:27:51 PM | SweSG | Snowman!
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| 8:28:11 PM | TheCanadianHacker | So much Xerox!
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| 8:28:16 PM | MarshMan | Most of my clients close port 9100.
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| 8:28:20 PM | TheCanadianHacker | That's the one I forgot
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| 8:28:50 PM | Solbu | TheCanadianHacker: Did you encounter any printers that requires login you could not get into, that was actually secured while being available on the internet?
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| 8:28:55 PM | LockwoodIII | Night all
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| 8:29:26 PM | RobbieF | Here's a great opportunity to ask questions, folks. Anything at all, post it here.
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| 8:29:41 PM | noeman5 | live feed just died
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| 8:29:46 PM | RobbieF | Thanks for watching - hope you all had fun. BIG THANKS to @TheCanadianHacker for guesting on the show this week.
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| 8:29:47 PM | Solbu | Can i get an icecream?
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| 8:29:49 PM | Solbu | ;-)
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| 8:30:00 PM | Solbu | noeman5: The stream ended,
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| 8:30:01 PM | SweSG | Thanks TheCanadianHacker! Please don't hack me! ;)
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| 8:30:04 PM | TheCanadianHacker | There are a few, but I couldn't check every single printer. I wouldn't be able to give you a percent, but there are definitely some
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| 8:30:05 PM | RobbieF | https://tenor.com/view/national-chocolate-ice-cream-day-seinfeld-eating-ice-cream-like-messy-eating-gif-11961241
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| 8:30:18 PM | TheCanadianHacker | Maybe not the best encryption, but there was a bit
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| 8:30:35 PM | TheCanadianHacker | I'll try not to! Lol
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| 8:31:37 PM | TheFu | The FBI has hunted down people for less, though what is "less" is highly subjective.
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| 8:32:53 PM | TheFu | You can make some printers into listening devices for a room.
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| 8:33:21 PM | Solbu | I think it was one of Linus Torvalds friends who had a notice in the /etc/motd which is displayed in logins, stating something like «I know you can hack me, please don't». Linus had an account on that system for a while.
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| 8:33:46 PM | SweSG | Gn all!
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| 8:34:26 PM | TheFu | https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/funtenna-software-hack-turns-a-laser-printer-into-a-covert-radio/
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| 8:34:55 PM | TheFu | https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d73bmq/how-to-turn-a-cheap-printer-into-a-stealthy-bugging-device
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| 8:36:49 PM | noeman5 | Good night everybody!
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| 8:37:46 PM | Solbu | Here's a cool printer hack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8I6qt_Z0Cg
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| 8:38:56 PM | SweSG | I think TheCanadianHacker is hacking me now: https://i.imgur.com/aFDw8Gk.png :D
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| 8:39:19 PM | TheFu | That's great Solbu !
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| 9:10:53 PM | RobbieF | iptables and kryptonite = the only way to stop @TheCanadianHacker
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| 9:13:45 PM | Solbu | Hehe
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| 9:16:58 PM | RobbieF | @TheCanadianHacker check DM on twitter
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