Chat Logs for Episode 665 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 24 Posts:Solbu
With 23 Posts:SweSG
With 14 Posts:SadSack963
With 13 Posts:MarshMan
With 9 Posts:RobbieF


Chat Logs:

6:58:33 PMSweSG I do not see anything on YT!
6:58:43 PMSolbu 190 seconds of time on the clock, 190 second of time. Take on down, pass it around, 189 seconds of time on the clock.
6:59:33 PMSkywriter64 Hi from Brooklyn ,NY
7:00:59 PMRobbieF Hi!
7:01:40 PMSolbu And we have Lift off
7:03:17 PMSweSG Solbu: not at YT?
7:03:47 PMSweSG Now I see!
7:03:53 PMSolbu Apparently this was a private lift off. ;-)
7:04:06 PMSolbu SweSG: I watch using Kodi.
7:04:11 PMSweSG Ok
7:05:21 PMSolbu messaging @RobbieF, testing. ;-)
7:08:28 PMMI0RTX nice hair jeff
7:10:17 PMSweSG MI0RTX: You should see my hair. I have not cut my hair in a few years.
7:12:04 PMMI0RTX i had long bead when lockdown 1
7:12:30 PMSolbu messaging @RobbieF, testing after he think he found the vibration toggle.
7:12:36 PMMI0RTX then cut off in september
7:12:51 PMSweSG :)
7:15:08 PMMI0RTX wear mask jeff if you make pcb the chemical are nasty
7:18:31 PMSweSG I built my music system 20 years ago.
7:19:13 PMSadSack963 Wire wrap is a good way of prototyping. Easy to alter if you need to make changes. It is still alive and kicking, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_wrap
7:20:23 PMMI0RTX uk we have veroboad copper strips on a paxlin boad
7:21:07 PMMI0RTX l you like to help robbie
7:27:22 PMSolbu Jeff: This is how Louis Rossmann started. He discovered he could fix things and later found that some people would pay him for fixing it, and now he run a company with 13 or more employees.
7:30:25 PMSashaR This is a great episode!! Except that Dave will never e waste again... He'll save everything "just in case!!"
7:31:23 PMSadSack963 Welcome to my life! I still have all my ZX Spectrums from when I worked in the QA Department in 1984!!
7:31:45 PMSashaR Oh dear! Lol
7:32:54 PMSolbu @SashaR: This is one of the benefits of having a house. The problem is that on can easily run out of storage space. ;-)
7:33:12 PMnoeman5 Howdy all, late to the party, been watching since the start though.
7:34:22 PMSashaR I did the same thing.... Started watching, but my phone needed a charge before I popped into the chat!
7:35:32 PMSashaR True Solbu!
7:36:23 PMMarshMan Windows 7 Enterprise is still supported with an extended license and Win 7 Embedded is supported until 2022.
7:37:44 PMnoeman5 How long until the PineBook Pro is EOL? LOL.
7:38:24 PMnoeman5 But I sooooo hate Windows 10!
7:39:30 PMSolbu Run Linux, where upgrading is easy. :-)
7:40:10 PMnoeman5 I do. I run Mint Linux, Kali, Ubuntu and Parrot, on various machines and hard drives.
7:40:36 PMnoeman5 Unfortunately I have to run Win10 for some of my games.
7:40:59 PMMarshMan I have one Win 10 device at home that runs a couple of applications that have no good Linux alternative. Otherwise Linux everywhere.
7:41:09 PMMarshMan Windows at work of course
7:41:14 PMSadSack963 Me too. I only have one Windows 10. All others are mint Cinnamon
7:41:57 PMSadSack963 Even my Pentium 4 runs Linux Mint (32 bit)
7:42:21 PMnoeman5 I've got Win10 on a drive on my desktop and the wife's machine runs Win10. All other drives are some flavor of Linux. Manjaro on the PBP.
7:43:02 PMSolbu I guess you know, but I have had the philosofy for the last 12 years that what I can't do using Linux, I'm not doing. That includes at work.
7:43:25 PMSadSack963 I'm lucky - retired now 🙂
7:43:41 PMMarshMan I live in the real world not some little cave pocket
7:44:28 PMMarshMan Windows is everywhere in the corporate world
7:47:25 PMSweSG I installed 20H2 on a test machine yesterday. Everything went well!
7:48:03 PMSadSack963 Yep 😦 All the programming software (PLC) uses Windows. Telemecanique used to be on OS/2., but I think that's Windoze too.
7:48:27 PMSolbu An aquaintance of mine worked at a colocation company, where they hoster servers for various forms. One day (some 15 years ago) they got new management, and the new boss said that starting the next week, all staff computers was going to be reinstalled with Windows, and no longer run Linux. He dropped everything right then and resigned, leaving keys, all access cards and walked out. He was one of the key system admins.
7:49:14 PMSadSack963 OWO. That's serious commitment. Good on him.
7:49:29 PMSolbu hesaid that one hour after that the word was spreading on IRC and he already had a job offer from a compeditor, where he still work.
7:50:05 PMnoeman5 Nice
7:50:24 PMSolbu When he told the story on IRC later on he said that «I'm not working with garbage»
7:50:28 PMSolbu :-)
7:50:41 PMnoeman5 And explode in 20 minutes
7:50:55 PMMarshMan Blah blah blah
7:51:56 PMMarshMan Narrow minded twaddle
7:52:32 PMABQTKY Be nice, gentlemen! (not as interesting, but nicer)
7:52:35 PMSolbu The truth is allways narrow. :-)
7:52:36 PMMarshMan If Windows is so bad why does it still have a 90% market share in the desktop market?
7:52:47 PMSadSack963 Not at all. I agree that if you work with a company that uses Windows, you have no real choice but to use it. But if you do have the option, then Linux is a nice system to use.
7:54:28 PMSolbu @SadSack963: Or if one have a standard that one is not willing to compromize on, like my aquantance.
7:54:38 PMSweSG MarshMan: Windows are not that bad. Only Linux people who want something bad on Windows. There are many times Linux has broken for me. More often than Windows.
7:54:54 PMMarshMan I love Linux but I am sick of hearing people put Windows down. It has its problems but so does Linux.
7:55:30 PMMarshMan Actually Linux probably has MORE problems
7:55:38 PMSolbu For me personally, I don't care if Windows is better. It is proprietary, and that is enough for me to not use it.
7:56:05 PMSweSG hehe
7:56:10 PMMarshMan Well bully for you
7:56:14 PMSolbu :-)
7:56:21 PMMarshMan I have to work for a living
7:56:41 PMMarshMan Leaving now
7:56:57 PMSolbu See you @Marshman.
7:58:18 PMSadSack963 Fair comment. Windows does generally work well, and 90% of software is designed for Windows. Linux alternatives may be difficult or impossible to find, and may be relatively underpowered for your tasks. Many Windows programs simply will not work on Linux WINE. It's not an easy transition, and I do not recommand it unqualilied. Users must remember... Linus is NOT Windows, and it's not suitable for everyone.
8:05:00 PMSweSG We had a long talk about Microsoft Edge on an Arch forum before today. Of course there were many different opinions.
8:05:11 PMSweSG https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/microsoft-edge-dev-is-available-in-aur/9108/139
8:06:17 PMSadSack963 Yuk! I refuse to use it. Firefox boy here 🙂 BitWarden doesn't work the way intended with M$ Edge.
8:06:56 PMSweSG Firefox every day of the week here too!
8:09:43 PMRobbieF I'll fix the audio timing in post.
8:20:25 PMGuest_78702 @RobbieF, what is a good Rasp Pi to be running Pi-Hole on a ISP modem/router then to my inside network, 3 or 4 (w/8Gb)?
8:21:05 PMSadSack963 @RobbieF Your IP address showed up in the video
8:21:06 PMRobbieF I'd do an ODROID-XU4 instead @Guest_78702 so you can use eMMC storage.
8:21:29 PMRobbieF No @SadSack963 but thanks. This is live mode so it will be blurred in post
8:21:55 PMGuest_78702 Thats even better, been thinking pi only
8:22:01 PMSadSack963 All others were blurred. but on one of them the blur was too low.
8:22:17 PMRobbieF Yep. 🤣
8:22:25 PMRobbieF It's pre-prod.
8:23:16 PMGuest_78702 $ not a problem would a mikrotik router be even better?
8:23:33 PMRobbieF Wrong thing.
8:24:00 PMSweSG I have run Pi-hole on 2,3 and 4 without problems. RPi 2 rolled almost 800 days without restart :D
8:24:07 PMSolbu I like that the AWS have several distro options. Of the options shown in this feature I would probably select Fedora or SuSE, as I know how to create proper RPM packages for it. I have some custom configuration in rpm packages, that I deploy on my systems.
8:24:24 PMRobbieF MikroTik can be use to route to a pi hole
8:24:28 PMRobbieF But it itself is not one
8:25:03 PMSadSack963 Live long and prosper 🙂
8:25:07 PMSolbu :-)
8:25:38 PMGuest_78702 okay thanks , will look for odroids, stay safe, happy Halloween
8:25:53 PMGuest_78702 bye
8:25:56 PMSadSack963 G'nite all
8:26:30 PMMI0RTX night all
8:26:34 PMSweSG Nighty Night!
8:28:04 PMSweSG Ska vi gå tillbaka till svenska nu då?
8:28:13 PMSweSG ;)
8:30:54 PMSweSG Solbu: kolla på Itchy Boots. Hon är i Norge nu. Såg senaste klippet för några timmar sedan. Det är så fint i Norge måste jag säga!
8:31:12 PMSweSG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqdQWjurg8o
8:31:15 PMSolbu I thoink we should stick to english. :-)
8:31:27 PMSweSG :P
8:48:10 PMSolbu SweSG: Nice sceanery, yes. I found the actuallt starting point fo her trip in that video, thanks to her having to stop and put on rain clothes in the bus stop. I could read a few of the names on one of the mailboxes.
8:48:36 PMSweSG :)
8:53:10 PMSolbu This is where she stopped after ten seconds to put on rain clothes: https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=#map=19/68.13221/13.42818
8:53:34 PMSweSG Hehe
8:54:41 PMSweSG It was very beautiful anyway!
9:08:01 PMnoeman5 Good night all. Had to step away, got a broken truck to fix.

Participants

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ABQTKY
Guest_78702
MI0RTX
MarshMan
RobbieF
SadSack963
SashaR
Skywriter64
Solbu
SweSG
noeman5