bp9 and Peter chat about his homebrew antenna switching solution until Solbu shows up, fashionably late. bp9 shows off the "Think Outside" keyboard but Doug is not here to see it. We talk about old solar powered calculators and mapping solutions that use vector-based data to draw roads instead of raster (tiles consisting of images of maps). Solbu and bp9 discuss his client/server app and insists that signing the encrypted packets is the best solution. Also describes how open source helps all projects, big and small. bp9 is joined by Peter and Solbu.