Eric and Paul welcome Jay Seegert of the Creation Education Center for part two of a fascinating discussion showing more DNA evidence for special creation, and more problems for evolution. Jay presents analogies on DNA evidence, showing how complex the information is. Analogues show DNA palindromes, DNA information that overlaps, DNA information that is spliced; all giving insights into how DNA evidence works by using English language analogies. In each case, a single mutation destroys a large amount of information.